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Old 04-22-2007, 10:36 PM   #1
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Deej how about you step inside here instead of trashing my business threads >>>

Crashing your competitions business threads is pretty low man?

The only thing it does is make you look bad http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/726648-gfy-design-special-kick-employment-post12296755.html anyone who sees your conduct and lack of professionalism in that thread would defiantly hire us before you and if our quality is not what they seek I am sure they would pass you up for someone else after seeing that?

If you are so good of a designer and my team is so bad. How come I see you spamming design request threads, but you don?t see us doing the same? How come we have clients pop up in them threads telling people to come to us and I don?t see people popping up in them threads saying go to you?

Bottom line is?

We have never, ever claimed to be the best, but our clients are happy and I have never received any complaints nor has anyone posted their dissatisfaction of our work on this board? That is what matters to us!

Our honesty, integrity, dedication to customer satisfaction, affordable pricing and personal approach is what sets us apart?

Quality is low on the priority scale when you deliver the above!

At the end of the day, our business will succeed no matter how hard you or anyone else tries to stop it as we have proven time and again since day one...

Nuff said!
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:39 PM   #2
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"Quality is low on the priority scale[...]"

Good to know. Way to make your business look stellar!
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:44 PM   #3
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"Quality is low on the priority scale[...]"

Good to know. Way to make your business look stellar!
How about quoting the entire line next time...?
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Our honesty, integrity, dedication to customer satisfaction, affordable pricing and personal approach is what sets us apart?

Quality is low on the priority scale when you deliver the above!
And yes it is...

what good does the best design in the world do if you can't get it delivered on time, it is over priced and the designer is not straight up with you?
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:51 PM   #4
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How about quoting the entire line next time...?


And yes it is...

what good does the best design in the world do if you can't get it delivered on time, it is over priced and the designer is not straight up with you?
What good is fast and cheap if it scares away the surfers?
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:54 PM   #5
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How about quoting the entire line next time...?


And yes it is...

what good does the best design in the world do if you can't get it delivered on time, it is over priced and the designer is not straight up with you?
him busting in on your thread was gay, but your main page states

"Affordable Site Design's team of Talented Designers have a Combined Experience of over 12 years and offer High Quality Design Services to serve the needs of both our Mainstream & Adult entertainment clients."

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What good is fast and cheap if it scares away the surfers?
Get real will you..? Our work is no where near that bad




Anyway, I am off to bed, feel free to keep flaming away and I will reply tommorrow
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I have to admit Jon, I have never heard the slogan of "We aren't that good, but we are cheap" used before.

Is that really working for you? Do you think it can be applied to other professions . . . like surgeons or hosting companies?
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Well if they have over 12 years experience and he has 3 designers. That means the least amount of years someone could have been around and designing in adult is 4.3 years. If you've been designing in adult for over 4 years and this is the best you can do, there is a bit of a problem.

And we all know how you act on a message board means fuckall, from that thread i'd use Deej whom i've never spoken to, but his work is better and cheaper.

Not trying to bust balls here, just trying to understand. If they have been designing in adult for over 4 years each, they should have a fucking stellar portfolio and I'm sure we'd all love to see links of their prior work.
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:28 AM   #9
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I have to admit Jon, I have never heard the slogan of "We aren't that good, but we are cheap" used before.

Is that really working for you? Do you think it can be applied to other professions . . . like surgeons or hosting companies?
The terms I have used are "Not the best" and "Affordable" and yes it is working quite well for me!

It works for lots of people...

GoDaddy, Servage, DreamHost are all know to not be the best, but there affordablelity makes them hard to passs us for alot of people..

Women get $2000 boob job daily from doctors they know are not the best because they con not afford to pay $6000+
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Crashing your competitions business threads is pretty low man?

The only thing it does is make you look bad http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/726648-gfy-design-special-kick-employment-post12296755.html anyone who sees your conduct and lack of professionalism in that thread would defiantly hire us before you and if our quality is not what they seek I am sure they would pass you up for someone else after seeing that?

If you are so good of a designer and my team is so bad. How come I see you spamming design request threads, but you don?t see us doing the same? How come we have clients pop up in them threads telling people to come to us and I don?t see people popping up in them threads saying go to you?

Bottom line is?

We have never, ever claimed to be the best, but our clients are happy and I have never received any complaints nor has anyone posted their dissatisfaction of our work on this board? That is what matters to us!

Our honesty, integrity, dedication to customer satisfaction, affordable pricing and personal approach is what sets us apart?

Quality is low on the priority scale when you deliver the above!

At the end of the day, our business will succeed no matter how hard you or anyone else tries to stop it as we have proven time and again since day one...

Nuff said!
Take it from someone who made a fantastic living doing design for some of the biggest and best. If clients are unhappy they aren't going to tell you, they're just going to go somewhere else. Quality is NOT low on the priority scale when you deliver, doesn't matter how honest you are... if your designs don't produce results, they won't bother trying again. Why? A design is NOT JUST something to make a website look pretty.. it's part of the marketing. If a design can't sell, it's about as useless as tits on a bull. I admire your determination, but dude your stuff needs a LOT of work before you can go beaking off about how fabulous you are. There is absolutely *0* sell to your work, it's all attempted glitz and glamour, and you end up with over-worked designs with colors that don't suit the niche and so text-starved I'm amazed people have NOT said something to you about it.

I'm not saying you suck totally, this isn't a big bash on you... Take it for what it is and realize that the old saying is true. "Remove the rafter from your own eye before removing the piece of straw from your brother's". Deej may not be "professional" in your opinion (but don't forget others may have their own opinions of your behavior too), but people will keep going to him because he has something you just don't yet... Sales ability. His stuff sells and in the end, THAT is what a client is interested in.

That reminds me, Deej hit me up, I have some stuff I think could use your touch
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Anyway, I am off to bed, feel free to keep flaming away and I will reply tommorrow
Nowhere near that good either. Might not scare the surfers off, but it's not going to sell them on a product either. Remember, a design is like a newspaper advertisement. You don't buy adspace just to put in a pretty picture, you buy it so you can put in an ad that will sell a product. A design that's "delivered" does nobody any good if it doesn't sell anything. ;)
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The terms I have used are "Not the best" and "Affordable" and yes it is working quite well for me!

It works for lots of people...

GoDaddy, Servage, DreamHost are all know to not be the best, but there affordablelity makes them hard to passs us for alot of people..

Women get $2000 boob job daily from doctors they know are not the best because they con not afford to pay $6000+
You're better off with an html page with text than a bad design that leaves a horrible taste in surfer's mouths. Once bitten twice shy.
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didn't think either of your designs what that special really
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hahahahahahaha i love jon clark threads.

2funny!
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Take it from someone who made a fantastic living doing design for some of the biggest and best.
Thanks for the advice, I will work on the points you made



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http://www.royalmotorinnlagrande.com/

For the record, we didn't design that site, it was done by the previous owner of my domains...



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Jon make me a design for free , and then it can be used to show people

better make it ripe
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Jon make me a design for free , and then it can be used to show people

better make it ripe
You got it Juice... Hit me up on the Q or email
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Well this wasnt necessary....

Jon...I wasnt bashing you dude...I just stated that i seen fishyness to the fact that you pay for people to do this? and you asked me to explain...I left the option up to you and you ripped the can open...

This thread was not necessary, i dont want to play whos better...I shouldnt even have mentioned that i was also a designer...and im not trying to up My ship...Im just an independent designer amongst many other skills...I like designing... ive always been somewhat of an artist....BUT...I dont have a design company like you...I just wonder why if i had the resources to have a company and if yuou get the work you say why I wouldnt pay people for better stuff....why not hire me or tenderobject for much better results...

Not that you would hire me, thats all i was getting at though...atleast get someone of equal skills, ya know...


Im not better than you... but your business adverts are kywocky....


Thats all dude... you get more business than me im sure... and thats what really matters isnt it... just c'mon....have some fuckin pride in your name...

Youre Jon Clark god dammit....start fucking acting like it....
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Dude thats gotta be slightly amusing...
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Well this wasnt necessary....

Jon...I wasnt bashing you dude...I just stated that i seen fishyness to the fact that you pay for people to do this? and you asked me to explain...I left the option up to you and you ripped the can open...

This thread was not necessary, i dont want to play whos better...I shouldnt even have mentioned that i was also a designer...and im not trying to up My ship...Im just an independent designer amongst many other skills...I like designing... ive always been somewhat of an artist....BUT...I dont have a design company like you...I just wonder why if i had the resources to have a company and if yuou get the work you say why I wouldnt pay people for better stuff....why not hire me or tenderobject for much better results...

Not that you would hire me, thats all i was getting at though...atleast get someone of equal skills, ya know...


Im not better than you... but your business adverts are kywocky....


Thats all dude... you get more business than me im sure... and thats what really matters isnt it... just c'mon....have some fuckin pride in your name...

Youre Jon Clark god dammit....start fucking acting like it....
Thank you for a civilized non insulting explanation and sort of apology?

Btw, kywocky is not a word
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Thank you for a civilized non insulting explanation and sort of apology?

Btw, kywocky is not a word
Im not apologizing for shit...I stand by what I said.... but what i said was not inteded for insult... it was intended to help your business out, without a sugar coating... as you can see now though I am sugar coating things...

isnt it sweet...

anyway...I guess im just gonna have to get back to work now...you better too since you filled your load for the week

I also dont give a shit what you think about my vocabulary...You understood what my intentions were....this time...

the only reason you took offense towards me on any of this is the fact that I said I was a designer also...if I never said that it wouldnt have urked (another word for you ) your titty. Notice im not the only one to say something...if you really look at it Im the one giving you positive criticism...the rest just leave a 5 word sentece saying "you suck"....fuck atleast im saying dude you need help....


Since i have NEVER made a portfolio for my work I think ill work on that today

Noo hard feelings Jon Clark...your sneakers are ok with me...they may stink a little and have funny laces but the colors are kickin...
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Im not apologizing for shit...I stand by what I said.... but what i said was not inteded for insult... it was intended to help your business out, without a sugar coating... as you can see now though I am sugar coating things...

isnt it sweet...

anyway...I guess im just gonna have to get back to work now...you better too since you filled your load for the week

I also dont give a shit what you think about my vocabulary...You understood what my intentions were....this time...

the only reason you took offense towards me on any of this is the fact that I said I was a designer also...if I never said that it wouldnt have urked (another word for you ) your titty. Notice im not the only one to say something...if you really look at it Im the one giving you positive criticism...the rest just leave a 5 word sentece saying "you suck"....fuck atleast im saying dude you need help....


Since i have NEVER made a portfolio for my work I think ill work on that today

Noo hard feelings Jon Clark...your sneakers are ok with me...they may stink a little and have funny laces but the colors are kickin...
In the business thread you were straight up bashing... If you really wanted to give words of advice you would have contacted me direct or made a thread to do it...


You are right also with the fact that if you would not have said you where a designer it wouldn't have bothered me one bit...

I think it is low of anyone to knock people in the same business as them

I always encourage other designers as much as I can!
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In the business thread you were straight up bashing... If you really wanted to give words of advice you would have contacted me direct or made a thread to do it...


You are right also with the fact that if you would not have said you where a designer it wouldn't have bothered me one bit...

I think it is low of anyone to knock people in the same business as them

I always encourage other designers as much as I can!
You can try and make me look bad for what I said all you want..

no bother...

like you said yourself...if i hadnt mentioned it...we wouldnt be here...

take it as you want....just as any one reading this... Im not trying to deter people from your business to mine...Like I said...I dont have my own setup...

you pay for poo work...wich in turn your clients pay for it as well...

but thank god its on time...

you asked me to explain...next time ill write a letter to my congressman anonymously ...



TO EVERYONE OUT THERE READING....Jon Clark is top notch in my book, a real stand up guy
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:00 AM   #36
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Im not apologizing for shit...I stand by what I said.... but what i said was not inteded for insult... it was intended to help your business out, without a sugar coating... as you can see now though I am sugar coating things...

isnt it sweet...

anyway...I guess im just gonna have to get back to work now...you better too since you filled your load for the week

I also dont give a shit what you think about my vocabulary...You understood what my intentions were....this time...

the only reason you took offense towards me on any of this is the fact that I said I was a designer also...if I never said that it wouldnt have urked (another word for you ) your titty. Notice im not the only one to say something...if you really look at it Im the one giving you positive criticism...the rest just leave a 5 word sentece saying "you suck"....fuck atleast im saying dude you need help....


Since i have NEVER made a portfolio for my work I think ill work on that today

Noo hard feelings Jon Clark...your sneakers are ok with me...they may stink a little and have funny laces but the colors are kickin...
what deej said.. jon, i don't think deej is bashing you in other thread. if i were you i would gladly accepted his advice. i, personally want to comment on that other thread but i didn't co's deej almost said what i wanted as well.. last time we talked seen improvements of work. much better than the old ones. if i were you i would concentrate on the output/quality you guys can produce. although its your bussiness. just an opinion i hope you won't take it personally. im also curiuos of those designers you have since you have 3 and your rates are much lower than what 3rd world country (i am) would ask for a design. how do you manage that and having a rep. no more drama please
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:00 AM   #37
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you should not be talking, the only posts I ever see you make are trashing people
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:04 AM   #38
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It isn't always necessary to have the last word. Sometimes it is better to not have the last word . . . like let it go.
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how do you manage that and having a rep.
Because we are not profit driven, we are service driven... I am not concerned about making a bunch of money, I already have that
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Well sure your not saying it...but you make insinuations that im trying to take your business...wich would be underhanded... and im not... you have also made insinuations that i dont deliver on time... but indirectly ill admit...so we wont count that...

you also made another thread for peoples attention... I woke up to this...

You sir are a gentleman and a sholar, employing the masses and distributing the goods, I am an independent noob with a big mouth

no worries man, lets drink tequila tonight and call it good...

lets not stick things in each others mouths...( im talking about words you sickos) ill even sing kumbaya(sp?) over the phone with you tonight if that would make you feel better...
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It isn't always necessary to have the last word. Sometimes it is better to not have the last word . . . like let it go.
You are right
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Because we are not profit driven, we are service driven... I am not concerned about making a bunch of money, I already have that
can you send me some cash? :P
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can you send me some cash? :P
When is your B-Day?
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