will76

Posted on another board.

Just thought everyone should see this.


So if you find them using zango, being promoted on spyware, spam, etc... make sure to report them, they said they don't support it and will shut down the affiliate.

As far as zango Sexbankroll's sites have been on it from the first day I can across zango. I guess those affiliates keep making new accounts. I don't get it. Affiliate gets his account shut down, no money sent. Next day opens new account, uses zango, gets it closed down, no money sent. Next day opens new account, uses zango, etc. etc.. for months... it is me or is something not adding up here.

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will76

Question.....


so who owns: www.sbrjmp.com

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g$$$

bump....

shoeaholicanon

**bump**

mattz

all you do is post **bump** every single time

will76

maybe it is me, and what the fuck do i know but could the " sbr " in sbrjmp stand for " sex bank roll " ?

So does Sexbankroll own this domain or not. Anyone care to comment from Sexbankroll ?

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Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE

Nice to see you have new targets

g$$$

heheh...first AFF...now SexBankRoll...how about SexSearch? LOL

fris

Quickdraw

It is, of course, a private Moniker registration, but has the same DNS as revenuegateway.com
NS3.BRANDNEWDNS.COM 85.92.153.154
NS4.BRANDNEWDNS.COM 85.92.153.155


Then we have sbrsignup.com on same brandenewdns.com DNS(as well as sexbankroll.com sites like screwmilf.com, etc.)

sbrjmp.com IP: 85.92.152.60 dns: ns3.brandnewdns.com | ns4.brandnewdns.com
sbrsignup.com IP: 216.66.80.37 dns: ns3.brandnewdns.com | ns4.brandnewdns.com

A google search on sbrsignup shows sexbankroll employees using it-
http://www.google.com/search?q=sbrsignup.com
Last but not least we have Mr.Sexbankroll using it in his sig on another board.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...f&q=sbrjmp.com

sbrjmp.com/sbr_hol/468x60.gif
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will76

I am only 1 person i can only do so much, sorry.

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Phoenix

dude all you do is teach more people they can buy zango

i doubt they ever had a more targetted audience of people who would consider using their services then here. And you've spelt it out that you can make money with them. so now tons more people are using them.

IT is kind of a catch-22.

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DamageX

You need more company on the shitlist?

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tranza

Just passing by..........

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profiteer

Yep, SexSearch is on this the Zango Bangwagon!

Has anyone officially confirmed or denied Fling doing this too?

will76

i've addressed this question about 20x

so what. how does more people buying traffic from zango hurt me?

actually, when sites like AFF says it is unprofitable for them to use zango, I think that tells people a lot. AFF obviously makes more than their affiliates, and from what I hear their payout is pretty competitive. As far as companies go AFF doesn't have a fraction of the overhead that other companies have, so if AFF is saying zango is unprofitable, I think that kinda goes against what you saying.

I hear people like you make comments ALL DAY LONG, but not one person has been able to reply back and tell me how zango making more money hurts me. There really is no catch-22.

That would be like me telling you every time you make a dot xxx post you doing more harm than good because people might get scared and go pre-register their dot xxx domain, and the more pre-registrations make the people pushing dot xxx look like more people want it.

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will76

thanks. glad to know everything i have done here regarding this issue could be summed up in that one comment.

thanks for your support.

making posts trying to point out who is using spyware = teaching people how to use spyware.

i guess i am off to educate more people on how to use spyware.

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will76

Hey Lars, it looks like people only cared that AFF used zango.

I am trying here to bring attention to the others... looks like people don't give a shit any more.

no biggie, we just losing money. no sweat.

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Gnus

Evening bump

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will76

amazing. you the only person in the last 24 hours who cared enough to bump this.

sad

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Gnus

Will, I think this is only part of the problem. You should read my thread that died quickly. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=725724

Gary

Phoenix

do you listen to yourself? christ i thought you were brightere then this
why are you bitching about zango if you dont care if they get more business or not?
What is your real agenda....fuck you are dumb

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Tryme

he wants webmasters to know who use it, so they avoid the sponsor. Also, the more people that know about it, the higher the cost is per click which doesn't make it as profitable for people buying his domains.

DamageX

Actually, the more business Zango get, the higher profile they become, which in turn is bound to get some more scrutiny from the authorities. They've already been slapped with a hefty fine by the FSC, it's only a matter of time before they end up up shit creek again.

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RawAlex

The free speech coalition is handing out fines? Wow! That's news!

OzMan

VERY sad and VERY true

I could so easily tear sexbankroll to shreds based on their silence and this one pathetic response but why waste my time as nobody wants to know because as soon as the thread is off page one it is pretty much history and that apparently suits everybody just fine.

Every "SponsorX + zango/stolen content" post I have made lately has dropped like a lead balloon.

I even posted where I saw a playboy ad on a torrent site and no comment, nothing despite Lensman saying it was wrong to advertise there.


1) The sponsor won't reply. Silence equals guilt in this case.

2) Affiliates of sexbankroll or other sponsors using zango won't reply as it hits too close to home.

3) The number of actual webmasters on gfy who think this concerns them is still very small.

and 4) It seems it just isn't cool to call out sponsors on zango if they are not AFF.

Well at least google is gobbling it all up so people searching for info on these sponsors in the future will be better informed.

sexbankroll and zango

»Rob Content«

You seem to really not want sponsors who are stealing affiliate traffic to not be exposed...

That leads me to ask what your agenda is???

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Phoenix

go peddle some content somewhere or something

what is nitesurf exactly will?

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»Rob Content«

Afraid to answer the question? Why should us the people who send traffic not want to know?

What's your agenda, why don't you want them exposed?

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Phoenix

fuck off dipshit...who the fuck are you anyway.

im here to expose anyone i see fit.

today i want to know why will76 doesnt care about zango on the whole...instead he only cares about his direct competition AFF


so why dont you go suck some dick for money or something

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»Rob Content«

Ok take your prozac and come back to reality.

Have you not saw his threads on sexseach, sexbankroll? It's not just AFF, it's anyone using Zango to FUCKING STEAL TRAFFIC! What part of that don't you get...

He is helping the industry, and helping people know, when programs use zango it's the same as shaving. Now please tell me why you don't want them exposed?

I'm someone with traffic and knowledge and like to know I am sending my traffic somewhere it's appreciated.

When someone uses Zango it's like they contact you and say "hey send me 1000 visitors and we'll credit you for 750, sound fair?

You seem like you really don't want people who steal traffic exposed, and I am asking you why.. When you avoid the question and just name call it makes you look guilty.

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»Rob Content«

Lazycash said this and it very well makes sense. Try to read instead of being an internet hardass.

Will has indirectly played a large part in effectively forcing some of the largest sponsors to stop stealing from their own affiliates. With the increased awareness to Zango, more webmasters tried it out, thus raising the cost per click dramatically. Sponsors that had been using the system to rob their own affililates for months with little to no competition on click bidding, suddenly had to pay triple for the same clicks and it became cost ineffective for them to continue.

The reason AFF became the brunt of Will's crusade is because they openly admitted to what they were doing and Lars' smug attitude just fueled the fire. Other sponsors chose to remain silent and just take their lumps while AFF became defiant and even called their own affiliates "sheep"

Since this industry isn't able to control Zango, the only alternative was to try and police those within our industry stealing from others. I'm sure ultimately the increased exposure added to Zango's revenue, but it also made it unprofitable for many to continue using their system to steal from others.







What Will is trying to do is control who uses Zango, if people in adult don't use them, then adult is a better place. Obviously he cannot stop Zango, but he can stop people from using them. How is this bad phoenix?

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spiro11

seems like a little more like an intimidation campaign than a moral campaign.. i wonder what benefit will76 and co are receiving from this...

what do they plan to do about other sponsors that use zango and don't directly reflect their competition?

what is nitesurf?

VG.content, do you go "baaaa" in the night?

»Rob Content«

Will has asked numerous times about sexsearch and etc, and they don't comment, not much more he can do. When he commented on AFF they replied back.

Has nothing to do with a BAAA man, when I found that thread and saw what was going on I pulled my AFF links, plain and simple.

I send to where I get 100% credit.

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Any affiliate that does business with sponsors who use Zango is either greedy or ignorant, or both. Any sponsor affiliated with Zango is a poor businessman and a thief. /bump

My 2 cents,
c-lo

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OzMan

My name isn't Will but here's my opinion on nightsurf. It appears to be an agreement between Ifriends and MSN where Ifriends pays to get top listings on pretty much all adult keyword searches on MSN Search.

Just like people buying PPC listings on Google get their ads featured above/more prominently than organic results.

Is it ethical that someone's listing gets displayed above mine just because they paid? Who gives a fuck ...tough shit for me. MSN, Google etc are free to monetize their pages as they see fit as long as it is legal.

So are nitesurf and the Adwords etc guys "stealing" sales from me?

In a way they are but if you call that stealing, then so are all the sites listed above me in the regular search results as I would more likely get the visitor/sale if I was listed above them.

Is this the same as zango?

Hardly. zango tries to take the visitor/sale once they are at your site with aggressive popups targeted to a site with similar content to yours.

I assume you mention nightsurf as a "see ifriends isn't perfect either" type comment.

No company is perfect. I don't think Will ever said iFriends was. Indeed iFriends was involved with zango up until a few months ago. They stopped. So did AFF.

I think Will and others are pretty much done with rehashing why AFF started/stopped using zango.

He is currently trying to engage those sponsors who are still using zango in a dialogue but they are too chicken shit to even reply and, unlike AFF where everyone jumped on the bandwagon to criticize their use of zango, everybody is deafeningly quiet when SponsorX and zango is mentioned so it's a lost cause for now but one might snap soon and actually man up and at least try to defend their actions here you never know.

spiro11

wow.. took long enough to think up that reply

so, if he's currently trying to engage sponsors.. where are all the rest? Obviously, zango isn't surviving on just THREE sponsors?!?!

Is this more of a aggressive business plan to discredit people (who are direct competitors)? What is stopping you guys from doing this to any company? Espiecally now that you've "clarified" in a VEEERY political response on exactly what nitesurf is?

I've heard a different story btw.. along the lines of installs, tool bars and funneling traffic..

Is that exactly what google does too?

RawAlex

Ozman: AFF is one of the biggest sponsors, and almost everyone at one time or another has used them. SBR (no disrepect to DK and his crew) is a relatively new deal and is maybe used by 10% of webmasters (but is growing, I heard).

AFF as a result gets at least 90% more grief for being arrogant enough to not only buy ads over their affiliates traffic, but to actually admit the same in public. It isn't just a case of using Zango, but having a total "fuck you" attitude that included the imfamous "Zango forced me" excuse that will go down in online porn history as one of truly classic lines.

AFF got it because they earned it.

will76

My real agenda is to educate people, obviously I failed with you.

This is the LAST fucking time i explain this for someone. IF you or someone else misses this post (plus the last 20x I have posted this) then they can think what the fuck they want. Obviously you and others are not smart enough to understand it or don't know a fuck about what you talking about to know how it works.

2 parts to zango. 1. pays people to do installs (zangocash). 2. sells traffic to people (metrics direct).

I post here to educate people about zango, all aspects. When people are educated how zango works then they would have to be morons to promote them to make .40 install only to fuck themselves on all the other sponsors they are advertising on their own site. Some people were promoting zango and stopped because of this, some people reached out to sites that was promoting zango and go them to stop. I DOUBT anyone here started promoting zango installs after finding out how bad they were and other than idiots like dorkjedi and fake sig whores just looking for attention, i haven't heard of anyone. It would make no sense. Installs are by far the thing that causes us the most damage.

The more pcs infected = the more traffic stolen from me.
The more assholes buying traffic from zango DOES NOT = more traffic stolen from me.

The second part is the people who buy traffic. Zango was selling traffic for all the popular urls and keywords long before i started posting about it. They sell traffic by the popup, and people bid on the urls. By posting about Zango the only bad that has come out of all of this is that the cost per click has gone up because more people bidding on their services. (AFF perfect example.) SO some asshole pays .04 a popup for my sponsor's url (my traffic) where as before he was buying it for .01. The amount of popups the infected user is seeing is the SAME. Zango caps how many is allowed to happen over a period of time so more people buying traffic doesn't mean more popups, just means zango makes more per pop up. My traffic is still being stolen regardless. The other part is the assholes who read this and want to use zango, let them. They expose themselves and I am sure a lot of people will stop doing business with them or skip over them in the future.

GOOD from my posting here: Make all affiliates aware how zango works so they never promote them. Some people were promoting them and stopped because they had no idea how it worked. Some webmasters have made scripts that notify the surfer their pc is infected. The sponsors who use stolen traffic have been exposed.

Bad: zango makes more per click from assholes who want to buy traffic from them.

While I don't want Zango to make more money, them making more money hasn't hurt me or anyone else here. If more sponsors stop using them, we keep working on people doing the installs , and the FTC stays on their ass, then we have a shot.

I think the good outweighs the bad.

So why don't you shut the fuck up for a little while, stop making stupid fucking comments like all i am doing is educating people how to use zango, and try a little reading comprehension and see if it can sink in this time.

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will76

Yeah thats it.


Hey dumbass, see the title of this thread.


Sounds like you just got off the phone with Lars or Damian if you seriously think I did all of this because I am worried about AFF because I am an affiliate of clickcash.

How does AFF compete with me ?

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will76

the same benefit you are receiving by me doing it. No need to pay me or anything like that, your sarcasm is more then adequate.

AFF ( DATING SITE ) does not " directly " compete with CLICKCASH (CAMS SITE)

someone explain this whole competiton to me. Last I checked a clickcash affiliate is more competition to me than an AFF affiliate advertising on the same site. Since I don't own Clickcash, how does what AFF does affect my incone at all. I am lost there but surely all you people who think it has to do " with the competition " can explain it to me. dumb fucks.

from looking at the website i would take a guess it is a site owned by clickcash, a link list they have all their own sites on? WHY ?

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spiro11

the concept of 'spin-off' isn't new...

either is distraction.

will76

Here is a novel fucking idea for all you really retard, short sighted fuckers who can't generate an intelligent thought.

If i wanted to do something to make me more money by bashing people I would bash clickcash. I would make 10 fake nicks and make up all kinds of shit about them, then more and more affiliates would stop using them, or not try them in the future. SO, I would have less clickcash competition. Lots of places I advertise there are other people promoting clickcash, when someone signs up through them first then I will never make that sale. When they signup through AFF i still have potential to make money off of that person.

If i was only interested in making money and doing it in a underhanded way by trying to hurt "my competition" I could think of much better ways then trying to bash AFF.

some people can't see their own hands in front their face and replying to these people is beyond getting old.

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will76

neither is playing dumb, or for some people being dumb.

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OzMan

Just in case you forgot, I didn't like AFF using zango either and am glad they stopped....so where from here? More broken record or move on to current sponsors?

No disrespect to Sexbankroll?

Why not?

because they are new?

because they are smaller than AFF?

because they use zango but aren't AFF so it doesn't count?

because they are too chicken shit to address people's concerns but that's ok?

I don't follow

spiro11

banking on it?

OzMan

I don't really understand most of what you said but I'll try.

Are you Mr sexbankroll? Sure seems like it. Good to see you at least posting anyhow

Sorry I took so long replying, the post wasn't addressed to me and also I don't monitor gfy 24/7

What other sponsors use zango and post on gfy that haven't been mentioned already?

Regarding nitesurf and my political response??? ummm I don't really get what you are trying to say. Is there something incorrect about what I said? It is my opinion based on my observations.

Got a link to the "I heard nitesurf kills babies" stuff as I'd like to read it?

spiro11

if i was mr sexbankroll, why would i be bumping this?

i'm just saying.. everything isn't as it seems