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will76 · 04-29-2007, 08:29 PM

I am not going to be posting any more about zango, spyware, torret sites, etc... at least not here. Or probably anywhere else for that matter.

It's a waste of time. When you expose people for what they are doing and they laugh in your face and are openly continuing to do these things and no one gives a shit, what is the point. There is at most 10 people here who care. Way too many people are either apathetic, supportive of these shaddy practices or even do them themselves.

What's the point in trying to educate everyone about bad shit when the people doing it don't suffer any consequeces when it is pointed out to everyone what they are doing.

Lars, DH, SexSearch, and the likes... you can go fuck yourselves. Do me a favor and make sure that all of your friends who conduct business like you do, tell them I said they can go fuck themselves too. Add me to your permanent black list please. I would rather shovel shit for an honest company then deal with you fucks who would sell your grandmothers fucking wheel chair if you could make a buck.

I will never compromise my personal business ethics (which is basically don't steal or scam people) , but I am not going to try to help people who don't fucking care. At least not on this site, where it is cool to be the playa and buy da drinks and shit.

I truely believe in Karma and what goes around comes around. It's just a matter of time. Things have a way of working themselves out.

I'll be around, just probably not here that much. Good luck to those of you who still want to try to change things for the better.

Mr Pheer · 04-29-2007, 08:30 PM

bye man!

suesheboy · 04-29-2007, 08:30 PM

I say be proud that you call out the losers and assholes.

r-c-e · 04-29-2007, 08:31 PM

Congrats to all the winners.

Aussie Rebel · 04-29-2007, 08:31 PM

Your doing exactly what they want you to do, and you aint like that, dont buckle to these fuckers will76

tony286 · 04-29-2007, 08:31 PM

Thats a shame you feel that way.You did a good thing.

wyldworx · 04-29-2007, 08:31 PM

things will work out. Good luck.

TwinkingHARDEST · 04-29-2007, 08:31 PM

Pussy !

pocketkangaroo · 04-29-2007, 08:35 PM

I wouldn't take it personal man. Some people in the biz are more concerned with making friends than money. They're easy to spot on the boards, and they are either making no money, or have such a pathetic social life that they need to make friends on GFY. There are people who appreciate your posts and understand the consequences of these companies and what they're doing. There are a lot of people who have pulled ads to AFF and others because of Zango.

Gnus · 04-29-2007, 08:35 PM

I'd say you did alot good than anything will. You let fellow webmasters know that they are getting screwed and how they are getting screwed. I was asked today if all I do is bump threads and my reply to them was Yep, and thanks for the bump. Why I am bumping them threads is because I wanna keep fellow webmasters informed of the activity being conducted in this industry and who is doing it, that way they can choose to do the right or the wrong it's there choice but at least they will be informed about the activity. Sorry to hear you giving up.

Gary

Wizzo · 04-29-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r-c-e

Congrats to all the winners.

rowan · 04-29-2007, 08:38 PM

Karma doesn't seem to work or apply in the adult industry. I'd keep up your crusade, you ARE being heard. Just look at the replies in any AFF thread that Lars starts these days.

Spunky · 04-29-2007, 08:41 PM

You can only beat your head against a wall for so long.

vvq · 04-29-2007, 08:46 PM

good luck in the future will.

04-29-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

I am not going to be posting any more about zango, spyware, torret sites, etc... at least not here. Or probably anywhere else for that matter.

It's a waste of time. When you expose people for what they are doing and they laugh in your face and are openly continuing to do these things and no one gives a shit, what is the point. There is at most 10 people here who care. Way too many people are either apathetic, supportive of these shaddy practices or even do them themselves.

What's the point in trying to educate everyone about bad shit when the people doing it don't suffer any consequeces when it is pointed out to everyone what they are doing.

Lars, DH, SexSearch, and the likes... you can go fuck yourselves. Do me a favor and make sure that all of your friends who conduct business like you do, tell them I said they can go fuck themselves too. Add me to your permanent black list please. I would rather shovel shit for an honest company then deal with you fucks who would sell your grandmothers fucking wheel chair if you could make a buck.

I will never compromise my personal business ethics (which is basically don't steal or scam people) , but I am not going to try to help people who don't fucking care. At least not on this site, where it is cool to be the playa and buy da drinks and shit.

I truely believe in Karma and what goes around comes around. It's just a matter of time. Things have a way of working themselves out.

I'll be around, just probably not here that much. Good luck to those of you who still want to try to change things for the better.

Will76 don't leave. People have heard you and do listen. Don't let leave or else the losers win. Leaving here is what they want, don't give them the satisfaction. Hell a lot of them have fucked with me but I didn't leave. They can kiss my ass for all I care and they know it. Stck around, it is nice to have you here.

J. Falcon · 04-29-2007, 08:59 PM

good luck to you

donkevlar · 04-29-2007, 09:03 PM

Does anyone else picture will typing out his posts? I bet he gets really into it and tears up and stuff. His heart is racing wildly right now.

Kidding pal, please don't yell at me again.

Kimo · 04-29-2007, 09:08 PM

you did all you could will, atleast you tried.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-29-2007, 09:09 PM

At least you did the right thing in the end....

edgeprod · 04-29-2007, 09:09 PM

Personally, I'm just exhausted of hearing about it. I'm not happy to see you go, per se, but I'm annoyed with you STAYING and continuing to blather, so I guess this is goodbye.

Even with a good MESSAGE, you can beat a dead horse into the ground.

NTSS · 04-29-2007, 09:27 PM

I say keep up the good work. From what I gather your work has made a significant impact. Don't quit bro...continue to give em' hell!

TampaToker · 04-29-2007, 09:28 PM

Will hats off to you man. You have informed a lot of people in the last 6 months of type of bullshit that people are doing to are industry. They don't give a fuck about the next person. They don't care about the webmaster that sits in front of his computer all making a living, They don't care about the little guy who content get stolen and they making a buck off of it.

I say a big FUCK YOU To the Legendary Lars, The DrinkingHARDEST and any other person or company that support them or there or any type of shadytactics.

While we are at it at least you had the balls to stand for what you thought was right and bring light to this. I cant say that about sleazy dreams and xxx jay. Those 2 right there had a chance to stand up and do something right and decided to ignore the problem.

Just remember will gfy is not the only board around look around your message is being heard even if you think it ain't. I just wish there was more people like you that actually had a set of balls to say hey fuck this we aint putin up with this shit.

Its getting to the point now were in the next 3 years there will be no little guys left in the biz. Then what the fuck you little guys gonna do then? lol you guys think ratios are bad now? ha just wait! I would suggest to anyone who is here for the long run make your voice heard, boycott these company's and spread the word. It will benefit you in the long run.

And before any ass kissing brown nosing "Members of the bro's club " comes in with any witty ass comments here is my reply

chupacabra · 04-29-2007, 09:31 PM

do what is best for you, but know that some of us appreciate the fact that you bring this shit up... its business practices like those you shed light on that have cannibalized the industry to the sorry state its in today friend..

Tempest · 04-29-2007, 09:34 PM

Never would have pegged Will76 for being a quitter...

tony286 · 04-29-2007, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Personally, I'm just exhausted of hearing about it. I'm not happy to see you go, per se, but I'm annoyed with you STAYING and continuing to blather, so I guess this is goodbye.

Even with a good MESSAGE, you can beat a dead horse into the ground.

Its annoying to hear about people fucking our industry, thats beautiful really it is.

will76 · 04-29-2007, 11:09 PM

Thanks for the kind words.

I am not quiting, just not going to battle these people day in and day out or posting here that much, or if at all on these topics. I hope you guys bump my threads for the next 10 years so new people will be informed. But the lines have been drawn at this point. No point in me wasting hours arguing with Lars or DH, I am not changing their minds, and everyone at this point has seen their true colors so I would say my job is done there for the most part. Now every person has to decide on their own how they want to react to these companies with the information that has been given here. I can't make people hold them accountable. I can only expose them for what they are.

Just keep reminding people by bumping threads and let the new people know how these people do business.

LiveDose · 04-29-2007, 11:35 PM

Will, thanks for the education. Seriously you are a stand up guy.

Aussie Rebel · 04-29-2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Will hats off to you man. You have informed a lot of people in the last 6 months of type of bullshit that people are doing to are industry. They don't give a fuck about the next person. They don't care about the webmaster that sits in front of his computer all making a living, They don't care about the little guy who content get stolen and they making a buck off of it.

I say a big FUCK YOU To the Legendary Lars, The DrinkingHARDEST and any other person or company that support them or there or any type of shadytactics.

While we are at it at least you had the balls to stand for what you thought was right and bring light to this. I cant say that about sleazy dreams and xxx jay. Those 2 right there had a chance to stand up and do something right and decided to ignore the problem.

Just remember will gfy is not the only board around look around your message is being heard even if you think it ain't. I just wish there was more people like you that actually had a set of balls to say hey fuck this we aint putin up with this shit.

Its getting to the point now were in the next 3 years there will be no little guys left in the biz. Then what the fuck you little guys gonna do then? lol you guys think ratios are bad now? ha just wait! I would suggest to anyone who is here for the long run make your voice heard, boycott these company's and spread the word. It will benefit you in the long run.

And before any ass kissing brown nosing "Members of the bro's club " comes in with any witty ass comments here is my reply

Good post mate

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 04-29-2007, 11:57 PM

Sleep on it, Will...

You have provided a good service to the members of GFY by outting scammers - many of whom have enjoyed a good old boys free ride, buying drinks and slapping backs at shows, while all the while they had their hands on the wallets of honest hardworking people, and were jerking people off.

The fact is that many of these "players" will eventually find themselves broke and behind bars (and that's if they are lucky and are not victims of street justice).

The jig is up for many of them. I say keep fighting the good fight...

ADG Webmaster

SomeCreep · 04-29-2007, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

I am not going to be posting any more about zango, spyware, torret sites, etc... at least not here. Or probably anywhere else for that matter.

Zango is probably the one most disappointed to hear that. Now they will actually have to pay GFY for a banner spot if they want to advertise here. They will no longer have you as their #1 publicity front man.

Aussie Rebel · 04-30-2007, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Sleep on it, Will...

You have provided a good service to the members of GFY by outting scammers - many of whom have enjoyed a good old boys free ride, buying drinks and slapping backs at shows, while all the while they had their hands on the wallets of honest hardworking people, and were jerking people off.

The fact is that many of these "players" will eventually find themselves broke and behind bars (and that's if they are lucky and are not victims of street justice).

The jig is up for many of them. I say keep fighting the good fight...

ADG Webmaster

well said

Don't give up Will fuck these scumbags

Paul Markham · 04-30-2007, 12:02 AM

Will you did a good job and should not be so despondent. I would say looking at all the damage limitation Lars and others put up you hurt them. I would guess a lot of traffic moved away from these programs.

Look at the way Lars has been scrambling to tell everyone how much they pay out and raising payouts. That to me is a reaction to the damage you inflicted. More so how many people thinking of going the Zango route decided not to, because of your campaign?

If you had never fought the war could of been loss. The affiliate system is fundamentally a good system, even with it's faults. It allows new programs to come in and get a foot hold, left to systems like Zango and the big programs many would be priced out of the game.

Do not ever think you lost. It was the opposite.

JD · 04-30-2007, 12:03 AM

it's like herding cats

c-lo · 04-30-2007, 01:17 AM

edgeprod, he's not beating a dead horse cuz the horse isn't dead...and that's the problem.

You've done all you can, will, but don't give up. There will always be ignorant people. We're in an industry where many of our 'coworkers' are either uneducated or near-sighted, or both. A lot of these people couldn't get a 9-5 if their life depended on it, much less start an real offline business. They just lack common business sense.

I do appreciate all the awareness you (and others) have generated towards the problems facing the industry. As you've probably noticed, a lot of the people that get annoyed with all the Zango threads probably aren't even real adult webmasters. They're either surfers who are mad cuz you're takin up space with what could have been a big-boob thread, etc or they are the very webmasters who are slowly and ignorantly driving this industry into a rut. Fuck them either way, because they only weaken the foundation that us legitimate people build upon.

Anywho, I hope to see you around here or elsewhere (where less truly inferior individuals gather.)

Take Care,
c-lo

SleazyDream · 04-30-2007, 01:18 AM

zango fire you?

Fap · 04-30-2007, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r-c-e

Congrats to all the winners.

Webby · 04-30-2007, 01:43 AM

Cumon Will - screw em!

If idiots want to trade with zingowhatevers - let them carry on. You did the right thing in bumping this issue - now spend some time earning from your own stuff and more responsible sponsors.

Agree with you - there is too much trash in the online side of this biz and they are not worth wasting time on - they'll be gone before the year is out and another class of trash taking their place

I used to bother and even help folks - but they are just too dumb. That aside, it's obvious there are a good number of excellent people here in the middle of the human waste - and enough to make it worthwhile even visiting here.

So... never give up and good luck to ya

Webby · 04-30-2007, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-lo

You've done all you can, will, but don't give up. There will always be ignorant people. We're in an industry where many of our 'coworkers' are either uneducated or near-sighted, or both. A lot of these people couldn't get a 9-5 if their life depended on it, much less start an real offline business. They just lack common business sense.

Now.. is that an understatement???

nikooo · 04-30-2007, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneB

Will76 don't leave. People have heard you and do listen. Don't let leave or else the losers win. Leaving here is what they want, don't give them the satisfaction. Hell a lot of them have fucked with me but I didn't leave. They can kiss my ass for all I care and they know it. Stck around, it is nice to have you here.

I agree with you..............

DamageX · 04-30-2007, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Karma doesn't seem to work or apply in the adult industry.

YET.

GTS Mark · 04-30-2007, 02:44 AM

Good riddence....

DH

Huggles · 04-30-2007, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Will you did a good job and should not be so despondent. I would say looking at all the damage limitation Lars and others put up you hurt them. I would guess a lot of traffic moved away from these programs.

Look at the way Lars has been scrambling to tell everyone how much they pay out and raising payouts. That to me is a reaction to the damage you inflicted. More so how many people thinking of going the Zango route decided not to, because of your campaign?

If you had never fought the war could of been loss. The affiliate system is fundamentally a good system, even with it's faults. It allows new programs to come in and get a foot hold, left to systems like Zango and the big programs many would be priced out of the game.

Do not ever think you lost. It was the opposite.

Damn rights, Paul said it best.

You've pointed out exactly who's cock is penetrating our asses. It's making a difference.

Vlad · 04-30-2007, 03:01 AM

will76, that's what I tried to explain you in first place when I posted in your zango related topic.

you trully sounds like a good person , but I still wonder only one thing...
you made a millions in adult and you sure know more then base aspects of this biz, then how come you just admitting of realizing THIS atm.

"It's a waste of time. When you expose people for what they are doing and they laugh in your face and are openly continuing to do these things and no one gives a shit, what is the point."

It's always been this way in adult industry will76.

no need to quit, just dont take it so much personal and don't be so "helpful" , you are old timer here (its possibly others that should leave , I wont point fingers , but not you)

good luck will76 !

scottybuzz · 04-30-2007, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Good riddence....

DH

i dont understand this guy exposes theives and you say good riddence? wheres the logic in that?

Ssv · 04-30-2007, 03:24 AM

you sound depressed

RFremont · 04-30-2007, 03:47 AM

Will, you have no reason to leave. If you think you haven't made a real impact on this issue, you're misinterpreting the situation. You exposed the whole zango issue, exposed a lot of scammers for what they are, aff stopped using zango, regardless of the reason they gave if you hadn't brought it to light, they would have continued doing so, and informed this industry of what really goes on.

I'd say these are more than viable accomplishments. Hope you don't let them off. And just ignore the jackasses that attack you personally, they are the vocal minority.

jayeff · 04-30-2007, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

zango fire you?

AFF still got you by the balls?

Azoy? · 04-30-2007, 05:01 AM

Hope you change your mind and stay.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...1#post12334065

OG LennyT · 04-30-2007, 05:07 AM

I'm glad you outted AFF a long time ago... haven't dealt with them since.

Thanks for all you do/did......

The Duck · 04-30-2007, 05:20 AM

Bye bye, take care!

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04-29-2007, 09:03 PM	#17
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04-29-2007, 08:29 PM	#1
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	I can't compete here. I am moving on. I am not going to be posting any more about zango, spyware, torret sites, etc... at least not here. Or probably anywhere else for that matter. It's a waste of time. When you expose people for what they are doing and they laugh in your face and are openly continuing to do these things and no one gives a shit, what is the point. There is at most 10 people here who care. Way too many people are either apathetic, supportive of these shaddy practices or even do them themselves. What's the point in trying to educate everyone about bad shit when the people doing it don't suffer any consequeces when it is pointed out to everyone what they are doing. Lars, DH, SexSearch, and the likes... you can go fuck yourselves. Do me a favor and make sure that all of your friends who conduct business like you do, tell them I said they can go fuck themselves too. Add me to your permanent black list please. I would rather shovel shit for an honest company then deal with you fucks who would sell your grandmothers fucking wheel chair if you could make a buck. I will never compromise my personal business ethics (which is basically don't steal or scam people) , but I am not going to try to help people who don't fucking care. At least not on this site, where it is cool to be the playa and buy da drinks and shit. I truely believe in Karma and what goes around comes around. It's just a matter of time. Things have a way of working themselves out. I'll be around, just probably not here that much. Good luck to those of you who still want to try to change things for the better. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

04-29-2007, 08:30 PM	#2
Mr Pheer Living inside your head. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 20,465	bye man!

04-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#4
r-c-e Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,070	Congrats to all the winners.

04-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#5
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Your doing exactly what they want you to do, and you aint like that, dont buckle to these fuckers will76

04-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#6
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thats a shame you feel that way.You did a good thing.

04-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#7
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	things will work out. Good luck.

04-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#8
TwinkingHARDEST So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 18	Pussy !

04-29-2007, 08:35 PM	#9
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I wouldn't take it personal man. Some people in the biz are more concerned with making friends than money. They're easy to spot on the boards, and they are either making no money, or have such a pathetic social life that they need to make friends on GFY. There are people who appreciate your posts and understand the consequences of these companies and what they're doing. There are a lot of people who have pulled ads to AFF and others because of Zango.

04-29-2007, 08:35 PM	#10
Gnus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 577	I'd say you did alot good than anything will. You let fellow webmasters know that they are getting screwed and how they are getting screwed. I was asked today if all I do is bump threads and my reply to them was Yep, and thanks for the bump. Why I am bumping them threads is because I wanna keep fellow webmasters informed of the activity being conducted in this industry and who is doing it, that way they can choose to do the right or the wrong it's there choice but at least they will be informed about the activity. Sorry to hear you giving up. Gary

04-29-2007, 08:38 PM	#12
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Karma doesn't seem to work or apply in the adult industry. I'd keep up your crusade, you ARE being heard. Just look at the replies in any AFF thread that Lars starts these days.

04-29-2007, 09:08 PM	#18
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	you did all you could will, atleast you tried. __________________ ...

04-29-2007, 09:09 PM	#19
Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	At least you did the right thing in the end....

04-29-2007, 09:09 PM	#20
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Personally, I'm just exhausted of hearing about it. I'm not happy to see you go, per se, but I'm annoyed with you STAYING and continuing to blather, so I guess this is goodbye. Even with a good MESSAGE, you can beat a dead horse into the ground.

04-29-2007, 09:27 PM	#21
NTSS Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Da Hood Posts: 5,688	I say keep up the good work. From what I gather your work has made a significant impact. Don't quit bro...continue to give em' hell! __________________ ICQ: 150-803-430 Email: marketing7(at)cox(dot)net

04-29-2007, 09:28 PM	#22
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	Will hats off to you man. You have informed a lot of people in the last 6 months of type of bullshit that people are doing to are industry. They don't give a fuck about the next person. They don't care about the webmaster that sits in front of his computer all making a living, They don't care about the little guy who content get stolen and they making a buck off of it. I say a big FUCK YOU To the Legendary Lars, The DrinkingHARDEST and any other person or company that support them or there or any type of shadytactics. While we are at it at least you had the balls to stand for what you thought was right and bring light to this. I cant say that about sleazy dreams and xxx jay. Those 2 right there had a chance to stand up and do something right and decided to ignore the problem. Just remember will gfy is not the only board around look around your message is being heard even if you think it ain't. I just wish there was more people like you that actually had a set of balls to say hey fuck this we aint putin up with this shit. Its getting to the point now were in the next 3 years there will be no little guys left in the biz. Then what the fuck you little guys gonna do then? lol you guys think ratios are bad now? ha just wait! I would suggest to anyone who is here for the long run make your voice heard, boycott these company's and spread the word. It will benefit you in the long run. And before any ass kissing brown nosing "Members of the bro's club " comes in with any witty ass comments here is my reply

04-29-2007, 09:31 PM	#23
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	do what is best for you, but know that some of us appreciate the fact that you bring this shit up... its business practices like those you shed light on that have cannibalized the industry to the sorry state its in today friend.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

04-29-2007, 09:34 PM	#24
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Never would have pegged Will76 for being a quitter...

04-29-2007, 11:09 PM	#26
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Thanks for the kind words. I am not quiting, just not going to battle these people day in and day out or posting here that much, or if at all on these topics. I hope you guys bump my threads for the next 10 years so new people will be informed. But the lines have been drawn at this point. No point in me wasting hours arguing with Lars or DH, I am not changing their minds, and everyone at this point has seen their true colors so I would say my job is done there for the most part. Now every person has to decide on their own how they want to react to these companies with the information that has been given here. I can't make people hold them accountable. I can only expose them for what they are. Just keep reminding people by bumping threads and let the new people know how these people do business. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

04-29-2007, 11:35 PM	#27
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	Will, thanks for the education. Seriously you are a stand up guy. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

04-29-2007, 11:57 PM	#29
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Sleep on it, Will... You have provided a good service to the members of GFY by outting scammers - many of whom have enjoyed a good old boys free ride, buying drinks and slapping backs at shows, while all the while they had their hands on the wallets of honest hardworking people, and were jerking people off. The fact is that many of these "players" will eventually find themselves broke and behind bars (and that's if they are lucky and are not victims of street justice). The jig is up for many of them. I say keep fighting the good fight... ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

04-30-2007, 12:02 AM	#32
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Will you did a good job and should not be so despondent. I would say looking at all the damage limitation Lars and others put up you hurt them. I would guess a lot of traffic moved away from these programs. Look at the way Lars has been scrambling to tell everyone how much they pay out and raising payouts. That to me is a reaction to the damage you inflicted. More so how many people thinking of going the Zango route decided not to, because of your campaign? If you had never fought the war could of been loss. The affiliate system is fundamentally a good system, even with it's faults. It allows new programs to come in and get a foot hold, left to systems like Zango and the big programs many would be priced out of the game. Do not ever think you lost. It was the opposite. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

04-30-2007, 12:03 AM	#33
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	it's like herding cats

04-30-2007, 01:17 AM	#34
c-lo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: On search pages, on ICQ @ 308 7 43669, and in the U.S. Posts: 925	edgeprod, he's not beating a dead horse cuz the horse isn't dead...and that's the problem. You've done all you can, will, but don't give up. There will always be ignorant people. We're in an industry where many of our 'coworkers' are either uneducated or near-sighted, or both. A lot of these people couldn't get a 9-5 if their life depended on it, much less start an real offline business. They just lack common business sense. I do appreciate all the awareness you (and others) have generated towards the problems facing the industry. As you've probably noticed, a lot of the people that get annoyed with all the Zango threads probably aren't even real adult webmasters. They're either surfers who are mad cuz you're takin up space with what could have been a big-boob thread, etc or they are the very webmasters who are slowly and ignorantly driving this industry into a rut. Fuck them either way, because they only weaken the foundation that us legitimate people build upon. Anywho, I hope to see you around here or elsewhere (where less truly inferior individuals gather.) Take Care, c-lo __________________ The AlphaPhaze Network Traffic & Hardlink Trades \| Sponsors \| Resources The adult marketing network you can trust Last edited by c-lo; 04-30-2007 at 01:19 AM..

04-30-2007, 01:18 AM	#35
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	zango fire you? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-30-2007, 01:43 AM	#37
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Cumon Will - screw em! If idiots want to trade with zingowhatevers - let them carry on. You did the right thing in bumping this issue - now spend some time earning from your own stuff and more responsible sponsors. Agree with you - there is too much trash in the online side of this biz and they are not worth wasting time on - they'll be gone before the year is out and another class of trash taking their place I used to bother and even help folks - but they are just too dumb. That aside, it's obvious there are a good number of excellent people here in the middle of the human waste - and enough to make it worthwhile even visiting here. So... never give up and good luck to ya __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

04-30-2007, 02:44 AM	#41
GTS Mark Formerly known as DH! :) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,911	Good riddence.... DH __________________ Looking For Gay, Dating, Mobile, Banner, Hardlinks, IM Ads Or Popunder Traffic? ICQ 5191566 / E-mail: [email protected] Follow Us On Twitter. Also Sign Up For Our Newsletter For Updated Weekly Traffic Inventory

04-30-2007, 03:01 AM	#43
Vlad Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gone Posts: 2,864	will76, that's what I tried to explain you in first place when I posted in your zango related topic. you trully sounds like a good person , but I still wonder only one thing... you made a millions in adult and you sure know more then base aspects of this biz, then how come you just admitting of realizing THIS atm. "It's a waste of time. When you expose people for what they are doing and they laugh in your face and are openly continuing to do these things and no one gives a shit, what is the point." It's always been this way in adult industry will76. no need to quit, just dont take it so much personal and don't be so "helpful" , you are old timer here (its possibly others that should leave , I wont point fingers , but not you) good luck will76 !

04-30-2007, 03:24 AM	#45
Ssv Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 402	you sound depressed

04-30-2007, 03:47 AM	#46
RFremont Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 621	Will, you have no reason to leave. If you think you haven't made a real impact on this issue, you're misinterpreting the situation. You exposed the whole zango issue, exposed a lot of scammers for what they are, aff stopped using zango, regardless of the reason they gave if you hadn't brought it to light, they would have continued doing so, and informed this industry of what really goes on. I'd say these are more than viable accomplishments. Hope you don't let them off. And just ignore the jackasses that attack you personally, they are the vocal minority.

04-30-2007, 05:01 AM	#48
Azoy? Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,178	Hope you change your mind and stay. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...1#post12334065