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Old 05-11-2007, 02:22 PM   #151
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:22 PM   #152
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Wow where did all of this go....

This was all supposed to be about a charity boxing match.

I wasnt here then but I am here now so regarding the rights and wrongs of Acacia like it or not I cannot attest to.

I am here now though, so all references to "Matrix" as bitches, rats, or anyhting else for that matter I take personally. If you do business with me you know my positon here and why I would feel that way.

GFY or not certain words provoke certain responses from me.

I am diffrent then others and I respect others opinions, so please respect mine.

Cool. You are right that you personally are responsible for any of this, but the company you rep is so unfortunately that part of you has to hear it. Why don't you get Norman to come post a public apology and tell everyone the truth of what went down. Besides myself, i am sure there are plenty of others that would forgive matrix under the circumstances.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:22 PM   #153
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at this point, 70% of the new gfy doesn't know what happened last year let alone 5-6 years ago.

70% of the NEW GFY? Try 70% of all of it...
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:23 PM   #154
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let's stay on the subject- matrix admits to giving acacia their list
This has been amusing. Your statement is incorrect. At the time of Acacia was a dark period in my life outside of Matrix. I was in the beginnings of a nasty divorce, and gave people more control that I should have while dealing with it. Yes, we licensed with Acacia. We did and several other too. Our database was not part of that agreement. Several people in the company, at that time, had access to it. I can sit here and point figures and make accusations as to who. There are people in the biz that were offered our database in an under handed way, by someone who was close to me. This is not a shot at Jon Berg!!!! He and I have become friends again, which I'm very happy about. Many of you know, us stopping working together was tied to reasons with my divorce as well. As I said I will not make accusations. Unfortunately it happened and as head of the company, ultimately it falls in my lap either way. Matrix has changed greatly and so have I since those days. I would have to give that credit to my new wife who is a major part in making my life happier than I could have ever imagined. Also having a great guy like Rashaan, who is straight and stand up guy helps too! Those of you who have spent time with us know this.

So to sum it up, you can work with us or not it is your choice. We will continue to create the best quality images as before and many will work with us and many won't. Nothing I can do about it.

As far as FarL, my issue with him is personal. He uses slander and lies stated by my upset ex to attack me. I see no honor in this and is simply not what a man does.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:24 PM   #155
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:25 PM   #156
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70% of the NEW GFY? Try 70% of all of it...


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This has been amusing. Your statement is incorrect. At the time of Acacia was a dark period in my life outside of Matrix. I was in the beginnings of a nasty divorce, and gave people more control that I should have while dealing with it. Yes, we licensed with Acacia. We did and several other too. Our database was not part of that agreement. Several people in the company, at that time, had access to it. I can sit here and point figures and make accusations as to who. There are people in the biz that were offered our database in an under handed way, by someone who was close to me. This is not a shot at Jon Berg!!!! He and I have become friends again, which I'm very happy about. Many of you know, us stopping working together was tied to reasons with my divorce as well. As I said I will not make accusations. Unfortunately it happened and as head of the company, ultimately it falls in my lap either way. Matrix has changed greatly and so have I since those days. I would have to give that credit to my new wife who is a major part in making my life happier than I could have ever imagined. Also having a great guy like Rashaan, who is straight and stand up guy helps too! Those of you who have spent time with us know this.

So to sum it up, you can work with us or not it is your choice. We will continue to create the best quality images as before and many will work with us and many won't. Nothing I can do about it.

As far as FarL, my issue with him is personal. He uses slander and lies stated by my upset ex to attack me. I see no honor in this and is simply not what a man does.
"Someone" then at Matrix handed the customer info over then.... unless the acacia fairy flew in at night and took it i remember the letter and the drama
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the feds just rolled up and wanted to know why there is a endangered species in my ass?
this week, the feds rolling up anywhere isn't something i'm taking lightly.



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Wow where did all of this go....

This was all supposed to be about a charity boxing match.

I wasnt here then but I am here now so regarding the rights and wrongs of Acacia like it or not I cannot attest to.

I am here now though, so all references to "Matrix" as bitches, rats, or anyhting else for that matter I take personally. If you do business with me you know my positon here and why I would feel that way.

GFY or not certain words provoke certain responses from me.

I am diffrent then others and I respect others opinions, so please respect mine.


The threads always change on here from one person fighting another, to other people fighting each other. I think the charity idea is a good one. If people are going to fight, you might as well take bets and donate the money to charity. Matrix hs great content. I have bought from you guys before and I will buy from you again. I do not know about the Matrix and the Acacia situation. It sounds like you gave them a list of people. I am sure they threatened to sue you if you didn't turn over the list. They sent me a dumbass letter about suing me, so I told them to fuck off and do it. I have not heard from them in a couple of years. All of this will blow over.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:44 PM   #163
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so the company who sold out the industry is making threats at one of the companies who got acacia'd in that sellout? seems like the intent was there... with malice. sad state of affairs when a matrix employee is trying to start shit with Far-L.
Well said Evan

Far-L ... I gotta agree with you here. It doesn't even matter if you say it on a board or to their face. Its not like its a lie or you making shit up. This was a very big issue for the adult internet. Acacia really fucked with a lot of people and there were companies that sold out to them. I'm not getting into who but a lot of us know who they are. One company has been posting in this thread.

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And on a side note, I still got love for Matrix. Everyone has choices they have to make and problems that happen in their lives that can affect their business ... even if they don't want it to. Norman has always been a stand up guy to me and Matrix has always gone out of their way to help me.

All in all ..... I just don't see the need for the drama about who did what when. Its old news. If Norman has a personal problem with FarL, then its their problem and no one elses. We don't know all the details and its not fair to Norman or FarL to get involved and make accusations.

I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY. This is a sensative matter than should not have been associated with webmaster boxing. Its not a joke or just 2 guys that don't like each other for some bullshit reason.

It sucks when you have had nothing but good experiences with both parties that are involved in an arguement.
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Wow where did all of this go....

This was all supposed to be about a charity boxing match.

I wasnt here then but I am here now so regarding the rights and wrongs of Acacia like it or not I cannot attest to.

I am here now though, so all references to "Matrix" as bitches, rats, or anyhting else for that matter I take personally. If you do business with me you know my positon here and why I would feel that way.

GFY or not certain words provoke certain responses from me.

I am diffrent then others and I respect others opinions, so please respect mine.
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And on a side note, I still got love for Matrix. Everyone has choices they have to make and problems that happen in their lives that can affect their business ... even if they don't want it to. Norman has always been a stand up guy to me and Matrix has always gone out of their way to help me.

All in all ..... I just don't see the need for the drama about who did what when. Its old news. If Norman has a personal problem with FarL, then its their problem and no one elses. We don't know all the details and its not fair to Norman or FarL to get involved and make accusations.

I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY. This is a sensative matter than should not have been associated with webmaster boxing. Its not a joke or just 2 guys that don't like each other for some bullshit reason.

It sucks when you have had nothing but good experiences with both parties that are involved in an arguement.



Are you high? You just posted two messages. In the first you say This:


Far-L ... I gotta agree with you here. It doesn't even matter if you say it on a board or to their face. Its not like its a lie or you making shit up. This was a very big issue for the adult internet. Acacia really fucked with a lot of people and there were companies that sold out to them. I'm not getting into who but a lot of us know who they are. One company has been posting in this thread.


In the second you say this :

I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY.


So which is it? Is it ok to bring it up on here, or is this not the place? You can't have it both ways. Damn I have never seen someone post such two different messages right after each other.
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Are you high? You just posted two messages. In the first you say This:

Far-L ... I gotta agree with you here. It doesn't even matter if you say it on a board or to their face. Its not like its a lie or you making shit up. This was a very big issue for the adult internet. Acacia really fucked with a lot of people and there were companies that sold out to them. I'm not getting into who but a lot of us know who they are. One company has been posting in this thread.

In the second you say this :

I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY.

So which is it? Is it ok to bring it up on here, or is this not the place? You can't have it both ways. Damn I have never seen someone post such two different messages right after each other.
I never said whether its ok to bring it up here or not. I'm saying I agree with FarL in respect to talking about something that has affected our industry. It doesn't matter where its brought up, its an important issue. Why does it matter if its posted or said to someones face?

As for saying "I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY", well that was directed at Matrix. Them bringing it up just brought a ton of attention to the accusation that they sold out to Acacia and that their list was possibly given to others. Thats not good publicity. I'm surprised that Matrix would start any thread that had the word Acacia in it or tied to it.

Get it now?

Sum up .....
1. Matrix started the thread ... I can't believe it was posted here on GFY.
2. Far-L responds and I don't think there is something wrong with him posting it or talking about it.
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I go to tons of shows and I am always easy to find. As one of the companies spending money to fight acacia (which we are kicking ass at doing btw) I have earned the right to call anyone out on it I like. And since that battle is not over for those of us actually defending people from crap like acacia I can do it on the boards, to their faces, where ever i please. Don't like it? Why don't you hold my spit bucket ringside?

Calling me out to fight on a board is plain weak and doesn't even make high school grade idiocy - it barely passes the idiot test of junior high now that I think about it.
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I never said whether its ok to bring it up here or not. I'm saying I agree with FarL in respect to talking about something that has affected our industry. It doesn't matter where its brought up, its an important issue. Why does it matter if its posted or said to someones face?

As for saying "I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY", well that was directed at Matrix. Them bringing it up just brought a ton of attention to the accusation that they sold out to Acacia and that their list was possibly given to others. Thats not good publicity. I'm surprised that Matrix would start any thread that had the word Acacia in it or tied to it.

Get it now?

Sum up .....
1. Matrix started the thread ... I can't believe it was posted here on GFY.
2. Far-L responds and I don't think there is something wrong with him posting it or talking about it.
Doesnt mean much but just for the record....

I never started a thread with the word in it....
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I never said whether its ok to bring it up here or not. I'm saying I agree with FarL in respect to talking about something that has affected our industry. It doesn't matter where its brought up, its an important issue. Why does it matter if its posted or said to someones face?

As for saying "I really can't even believe this was brought up on GFY", well that was directed at Matrix. Them bringing it up just brought a ton of attention to the accusation that they sold out to Acacia and that their list was possibly given to others. Thats not good publicity. I'm surprised that Matrix would start any thread that had the word Acacia in it or tied to it.

Get it now?

Sum up .....
1. Matrix started the thread ... I can't believe it was posted here on GFY.
2. Far-L responds and I don't think there is something wrong with him posting it or talking about it.


Yeah Matrix did not bring up the Acacia issue on here. It was brought up by another person in another thread. He started this thread to defend himself from the previous thread. Do you get it now?
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Doesnt mean much but just for the record....

I never started a thread with the word in it....
I understand that but you started a thread calling out Far-L because he's been talking about Acacia to others and tagging Matrix with them when he talks to others.

I'm just saying, starting a thread calling out someone for talking about Matrix and Acacia is just as bad. It still brings bad publicity. I was surprised that you open the gates.

I have no problem with Matrix. The past is the past and I'm well over it. It doesn't even matter to me what "truly" happened. I've known Norman for many years and I like him very much. I know about the tough times he went through with his divorce and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

As for as I'm concerned, I'm cool with Matrix and I'm cool with FarL. Both have good companies and good people in my book.
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Doesnt mean much but just for the record....

I never started a thread with the word in it....

Yeah I know. I don't think most people saw the original thread where you were called out on Acacia. You have the right to defend yourself.
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Yeah Matrix did not bring up the Acacia issue on here. It was brought up by another person in another thread. He started this thread to defend himself from the previous thread. Do you get it now?
No shit sherlock. Why would he start a thread with "Acacia" in it? That might be the dumbest thing ever. But starting a thread where you are calling someone out for talking about Acacia and Matrix .... well thats not the best idea. You gotta know that it would have been brought up. Are you kidding me?

You obviously still and probably won't get it.

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No shit sherlock. Why would he start a thread with "Acacia" in it? That might be the dumbest thing ever. But starting a thread where you are calling someone out for talking about Acacia and Matrix .... well thats not the best idea. You gotta know that it would have been brought up. Are you kidding me?

You obviously still and probably won't get it.

Are you just busting my balls because of your love for JaneB? Who are you? Boyfriend, husband, webmaster, fan and/or lasbian lover? I love her link code in your banner, so I'd like to know who I'm talking to.

You must be one of the very few who does not know I am her husband. I loved the posting you made about the webcam site you had. How you only contacted her once it about and all your other bullshit lies. I am glad that I have her keep all e-mail contacts with people. That way when idiots like you lie, she can post them and show what a dumbass you are.
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Hermosa Beach ? My old stomping grounds..
I don't recognize it as Hermosa . . . besides, Eat At Joe's is the best in the South Bay
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"Someone" then at Matrix handed the customer info over then.... unless the acacia fairy flew in at night and took it i remember the letter and the drama
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Instead of an "I'm mad at you so let's have a boxing match" cause, you know - that concept is about as unique as a blade of grass..

Far-L grabs a content girl, Rashaan grabs a content girl - we snag a couple of power house Fucking Machines and the first girl to quit loses!

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Far-L actual might give us a run for the money. He was nominated for a sex award you know. He could be the John Henry and beat the machine but you know he dies in the end.
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You must be one of the very few who does not know I am her husband. I loved the posting you made about the webcam site you had. How you only contacted her once it about and all your other bullshit lies. I am glad that I have her keep all e-mail contacts with people. That way when idiots like you lie, she can post them and show what a dumbass you are.
Here we go again ... you guys love talking about shit that is 5 years old. Is that all you got? Did she ever do a show? No. She was never a part of it. And it wasn't meant to be some huge cam network like Camz.com. It was simply a solution for some girls that needed a way to do shows. I had free hosting and the emulive license whas cheap. It worked for some girls and not for others. Nikki used the setup for almost 2 years. Chanel about 1 and I don't remember the names of a couple of the other amateurs that used it. Lets chat about some stuff that has happened within the past year and makes at least a little difference in our lives and not dig up worthless crap from half a decade ago. Dude, let it go, I have.

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So to sum it up, you can work with us or not it is your choice. We will continue to create the best quality images as before and many will work with us and many won't. Nothing I can do about it.
I vote for NOT, leaves more business for the rest of us who once had to bow down to big content producers sitting on all the models and the business.
Glad to hear you f'ed up.
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I don't recognize it as Hermosa . . . besides, Eat At Joe's is the best in the South Bay

it was somewhere in San Diego i think
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Hermosa Beach ? My old stomping grounds..
konos is next to crystal pier in pacific beach.
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it was somewhere in San Diego i think
Dude, it was at the end of Garnet by the pier. That breakfast place is the bomb. I used to live up the street from their with D$ on Thomas and Fannuel. We were 7 streets from the ocean and 3 streets from the bay.

I know DJ Airek remembers those busty sunny fun days
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konos is next to crystal pier in pacific beach.

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konos is next to crystal pier in pacific beach.
Dude, we posted at the same time. You are like my long lost brother
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Dude, it was at the end of Garnet by the pier. That breakfast place is the bomb. I used to live up the street from their with D$ on Thomas and Fannuel. We were 7 streets from the ocean and 3 streets from the bay.

I know DJ Airek remembers those busty sunny fun days
yup i remember the pier!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bizzle was afraid of the birdies flying around
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yup i remember the pier!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bizzle was afraid of the birdies flying around
Juicy .. you should have seen him at D$'s wedding when they opened the cages and all the doves flew out. He almost had a heart attack. He fucking hates birds and is scared to death of them.
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it was somewhere in San Diego i think
No way dude.. Good Stuff in hermosa..right next to the beach. You can check out the roller babes while having you cup of joe..
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Here we go again ... you guys love talking about shit that is 5 years old. Is that all you got? Did she ever do a show? No. She was never a part of it. And it wasn't meant to be some huge cam network like Camz.com. It was simply a solution for some girls that needed a way to do shows. I had free hosting and the emulive license whas cheap. It worked for some girls and not for others. Nikki used the setup for almost 2 years. Chanel about 1 and I don't remember the names of a couple of the other amateurs that used it. Lets chat about some stuff that has happened within the past year and makes at least a little difference in our lives and not dig up worthless crap from half a decade ago. Dude, let it go, I have.

Best of luck on her site

If she was never a part of it, then why did you have her pictures on the website? In the free area and the members area? She never did a show because none of the other girls ever did one. Only Nikki Nova did shows. I know the other models that you had listed on there and they never did shows either. I bring this up because you asked about why she did not have Visa on her website. It was a Pro Adult site for years. When you sent her numerous e-mails on joining your website, I am sure you had to have looked at her site. You can't miss the big ass Pro Adult join page. You contacted her, so you must have seen something you liked so stop being a dick to her now. She just took the site off Pro Adult and Visa will be added shortly. You started all this shit with your comment in another thread. I had no issue with you until you had to be a prick for no reason to her. She did not do anything to you in that other thread for you to say what you did. I am fine with dropping the issue, but you should have your info straight before you post laughing at someone.
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Juicy .. you should have seen him at D$'s wedding when they opened the cages and all the doves flew out. He almost had a heart attack. He fucking hates birds and is scared to death of them.
I heard about the "dove story" hehehhe

tthe best is when you take a potato chip bag and go behind him and make bird noises and smash the bag it makes birdy noises



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This has been amusing. Your statement is incorrect. At the time of Acacia was a dark period in my life outside of Matrix. I was in the beginnings of a nasty divorce, and gave people more control that I should have while dealing with it. Yes, we licensed with Acacia. We did and several other too. Our database was not part of that agreement. Several people in the company, at that time, had access to it. I can sit here and point figures and make accusations as to who. There are people in the biz that were offered our database in an under handed way, by someone who was close to me. This is not a shot at Jon Berg!!!! He and I have become friends again, which I'm very happy about. Many of you know, us stopping working together was tied to reasons with my divorce as well. As I said I will not make accusations. Unfortunately it happened and as head of the company, ultimately it falls in my lap either way. Matrix has changed greatly and so have I since those days. I would have to give that credit to my new wife who is a major part in making my life happier than I could have ever imagined. Also having a great guy like Rashaan, who is straight and stand up guy helps too! Those of you who have spent time with us know this.

So to sum it up, you can work with us or not it is your choice. We will continue to create the best quality images as before and many will work with us and many won't. Nothing I can do about it.

As far as FarL, my issue with him is personal. He uses slander and lies stated by my upset ex to attack me. I see no honor in this and is simply not what a man does.
Pathetic. To this day you can't even just say what you did and apologize. You have to hide behind some convoluted fairy tale.

But, you are right. Everyone can choose to do business with you or not to do business with you. I for one will do business with you: WHEN EVERY SINGLE PICTURE AND VIDEO AVAILABLE FOR SALE OR LICENSE FROM EVERY SINGLE COMPANY THAT DID NOT HAND OVER THEIR CUSTOMER DATABASE TO ACACIA TO SAVE THEIR OWN ASS IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

That's when I will give you a call.
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If she was never a part of it, then why did you have her pictures on the website? In the free area and the members area? She never did a show because none of the other girls ever did one. Only Nikki Nova did shows. I know the other models that you had listed on there and they never did shows either. I bring this up because you asked about why she did not have Visa on her website. It was a Pro Adult site for years. When you sent her numerous e-mails on joining your website, I am sure you had to have looked at her site. You can't miss the big ass Pro Adult join page. You contacted her, so you must have seen something you liked so stop being a dick to her now. She just took the site off Pro Adult and Visa will be added shortly. You started all this shit with your comment in another thread. I had no issue with you until you had to be a prick for no reason to her. She did not do anything to you in that other thread for you to say what you did. I am fine with dropping the issue, but you should have your info straight before you post laughing at someone.
I joined in on a thread yesterday because she was getting crazy with everyone. I have no problem with her at all. But she went a bit overboard in that other thread. And I'm sorry I never checked out her site. Like I said, the cam thing was a simply solution and wasn't a big deal.

Anyway, the past is the past. I hope her site does well and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not a prick and I don't wish bad things for people. Sorry for ruffling her feathers yesterday but they were allready ruffled when I got there. Good luck to you too.
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I heard about the "dove story" hehehhe

tthe best is when you take a potato chip bag and go behind him and make bird noises and smash the bag it makes birdy noises

Man, is that funny. We should rent a bunch of birds in Vegas for XBIZ and play the absolute best practical joke ever. KB .. if you read this, you know I love you.
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