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YanksAngel · 05-18-2007, 07:19 PM

A few months ago a friend of mine downloaded what he thought was going to be a superman movie and ended up with Loose Change. I had already seen a movie like it which I gave some serious thought to, but this one, although much better put together just seemed to be far to huge for my mind to entertain...until recently. So Recently, I went back to it took some pertanent notes and did some research of my own to disprove something about the facts that are brought up in this huge web of lies and coverup they say has occurred. Of all the points that i could possibly attain any main stream proof on, not one thing could I say was not absolute truth. But still, I guess out of fear I was unwilling to go there.

Then, I watched Rosie O'Donnel talk on the subject and a few other people talk including the joke of a debate with Popular Mechanics and still I tried really hard not to go there. It wasn't until I saw the newly released video the 4 wives of men who died on that day put together and the petition put out to try and have The Patriot Act redone and the way the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are being treated. that I had no choice but to look at it

I am just looking for some intelligent , well thought out discussion on this very scary and potentially life altering topic. If anyone cares to do so. For the record, I am not interested in unintelligent, childish, forgot my crayons and romper room mirror bullshit that I typically can see on any given day in this forum. This topic IMHO is worth a bit more than that I think. I happen to love my country and am hoping against hope that no matter what it looks like and what evidence I see to the contrary that we as a country can still believe in freedom and democracy. If anyone can help disprove this "theory" please bring it. I need intelligent proof not just smoke. Even though it might be fun to blow smoke up my ass in the bedroom, It means nothing here. haha

This topic is so blatant it just makes me wonder if they wanted us to think like this. And the 911 commission.. OMFG now WTF?

Before I hit the submit button, I decided to go outside of the box and ask you more specific things to prove or disprove here. I think trying to discuss whether or not the twin towers were brought down with explosives is at this point in my minds eye a mute point. If there were definetely explosives used in tower 7 then what is the reason to discuss that point any further. However, if we must then we can.

I am hoping someone can disprove the following concerns or at least shed light on how or why. Give us a new side of the coin to look at so to speak. These issues come from other sources outside of Loose Change also and to my knowledge are absolute and credible. Please debunk them with intelligent proof if possible Thanks.

1. The day before the attacks, on Sept 10th that year, Rumsfeld announced to the world that the pentagon had lost $2.3 Trillion dollars. Yes that is a T in trillion. Lost. Cannot account for!! He also said that the office of Naval intelligence and an independent accounting team were at work trying to find the missing trillions in the pentagon as he announced this.

2. Please tell me that when the pentagon was hit the next day that the office of naval intelligence and the independent accounting team was not the area that was blown to pieces.

3. Does the Us government own 70% of the stock on the stock market today, and if so what does this actually mean? We are certainly not in a desperate situation if that is the case and Social Security dam straight better be around when I am old!

4. How in the fuck did not one, not two, three, but four in air targets and or threats to the safety of American people on our soil no less, escape being shot down out of the sky even though the final attack was not executed for almost 2 hours after the first plane attacked the towers, without it being a stand down order executed by the VP of these United States or the secretary of defense? I do not care if our fighters were all outside of the USA at the time of the attacks they all could have been home in that amount of time and we do have missiles that don't need pilots to be launched! Please explain this to me as that point has always not computed.

5. If Osama bin Ladden was in an American hospital outside of the USA the night before the attacks having a kidney transplant and being protected by the CIA why did we not just go and get his ass the next day? I don't think he was going to run to far in that condition. Wouldn't that have been better than going to war?

6. Why would the records of cell phone calls from a cruising altitude airplane be given to the public knowing that the technology was not possible at the time for a cell phone call to connect to anyone from that distance? Did they want to get caught? Or was it possible for a cell phone call to reach the range despite the fact that American Airlines spent thousands of dollars some years later on a new technology that made it possible for the first time?

7. Why was the crash in PA the first ground crash in the history of the world that showed virtually no debris field? No wreckage to speak of no luggage not seats, no wings no engines just a hole?

8. Why was the airport in Ohio that morning evacuated and people were made to leave on foot..Not allowed to drive out of the airport but on foot? Has this ever happened before?

9. Why during that time, and at that airport were not one but two airplanes allowed to land and offload their passengers and no one investigate the events? Who were the passengers? And where are they now?

10. If a missile is not what hit the pentagon as clearly it could have been nothing else, why have none of the 80+ pentagon camera tapes or the 3 outside tapes been shown to the public except for 5 frames of a tape from the pentagon? Which by the way does not show an aircraft hitting the building?

11. If in fact a plane did hit the pentagon and burst into flames and burn hot enough to take down the world trade centers and another building from fire, why in some of those photos can we see between the first and second wall barriers a chair and open book on the second floor on the edge untouched by flames?

12. If the airplane hit the pentagon and incinerated it due to the intense heat and impact as the commission report has said why then in the same location can we see a file cabinet and computer monitor among other things? Perhaps they are made with materials unlike any other in the world? Explain please!

13. Why if it was a plane that hit the pentagon is there only a round hole at the impact zone and the windows in the building beside the impact still intact? Even if the planes wings could not penetrate the building, I am sure that they would have been able to at least mark the building and brake a damn window! Furthermore where then are those wings?

14. The weekend before the attack is it actually true that the security systems in the single most financial building in the world were brought completely down and the dogs removed for 2 days, leaving it virtually unprotected, merely to update the fiber optics for internet access?

15. Is it true that President Bush family members , brother and cousin were the ceo and board members of the security company that protected the world trade center?

16. Why did Mayor Rudy Guiliani order the immediate loading of all pieces of the steel from the WTC onto trucks and onto a boat out of this country to be melted? Before being examined for residue from blast materials etc. This one act boggles my mind like no other.

Deej · 05-18-2007, 07:20 PM

uhoh... youre gonna get it now

Huggles · 05-18-2007, 07:33 PM

If Loose Change is real, then why didn't Bush / Blair or SOMEONE plant WMDs in Iraq?

btw, Loose Change has been debunked many, many times.

Big_Red · 05-18-2007, 07:35 PM

has anyone not seen Loose Change?

BobG · 05-18-2007, 07:48 PM

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-18-2007, 07:58 PM

Long thread.....

Dirty Dane · 05-18-2007, 08:09 PM

Yes, and it sucks.

RP Fade · 05-18-2007, 08:11 PM

seen it..interesting 'facts' but ive also seen/heard most of the facts rebutted and refuted.

05-18-2007, 07:19 PM	#1
YanksAngel Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ - USA Posts: 134	Anyone seen Loose Change?? A few months ago a friend of mine downloaded what he thought was going to be a superman movie and ended up with Loose Change. I had already seen a movie like it which I gave some serious thought to, but this one, although much better put together just seemed to be far to huge for my mind to entertain...until recently. So Recently, I went back to it took some pertanent notes and did some research of my own to disprove something about the facts that are brought up in this huge web of lies and coverup they say has occurred. Of all the points that i could possibly attain any main stream proof on, not one thing could I say was not absolute truth. But still, I guess out of fear I was unwilling to go there. Then, I watched Rosie O'Donnel talk on the subject and a few other people talk including the joke of a debate with Popular Mechanics and still I tried really hard not to go there. It wasn't until I saw the newly released video the 4 wives of men who died on that day put together and the petition put out to try and have The Patriot Act redone and the way the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are being treated. that I had no choice but to look at it I am just looking for some intelligent , well thought out discussion on this very scary and potentially life altering topic. If anyone cares to do so. For the record, I am not interested in unintelligent, childish, forgot my crayons and romper room mirror bullshit that I typically can see on any given day in this forum. This topic IMHO is worth a bit more than that I think. I happen to love my country and am hoping against hope that no matter what it looks like and what evidence I see to the contrary that we as a country can still believe in freedom and democracy. If anyone can help disprove this "theory" please bring it. I need intelligent proof not just smoke. Even though it might be fun to blow smoke up my ass in the bedroom, It means nothing here. haha This topic is so blatant it just makes me wonder if they wanted us to think like this. And the 911 commission.. OMFG now WTF? Before I hit the submit button, I decided to go outside of the box and ask you more specific things to prove or disprove here. I think trying to discuss whether or not the twin towers were brought down with explosives is at this point in my minds eye a mute point. If there were definetely explosives used in tower 7 then what is the reason to discuss that point any further. However, if we must then we can. I am hoping someone can disprove the following concerns or at least shed light on how or why. Give us a new side of the coin to look at so to speak. These issues come from other sources outside of Loose Change also and to my knowledge are absolute and credible. Please debunk them with intelligent proof if possible Thanks. 1. The day before the attacks, on Sept 10th that year, Rumsfeld announced to the world that the pentagon had lost $2.3 Trillion dollars. Yes that is a T in trillion. Lost. Cannot account for!! He also said that the office of Naval intelligence and an independent accounting team were at work trying to find the missing trillions in the pentagon as he announced this. 2. Please tell me that when the pentagon was hit the next day that the office of naval intelligence and the independent accounting team was not the area that was blown to pieces. 3. Does the Us government own 70% of the stock on the stock market today, and if so what does this actually mean? We are certainly not in a desperate situation if that is the case and Social Security dam straight better be around when I am old! 4. How in the fuck did not one, not two, three, but four in air targets and or threats to the safety of American people on our soil no less, escape being shot down out of the sky even though the final attack was not executed for almost 2 hours after the first plane attacked the towers, without it being a stand down order executed by the VP of these United States or the secretary of defense? I do not care if our fighters were all outside of the USA at the time of the attacks they all could have been home in that amount of time and we do have missiles that don't need pilots to be launched! Please explain this to me as that point has always not computed. 5. If Osama bin Ladden was in an American hospital outside of the USA the night before the attacks having a kidney transplant and being protected by the CIA why did we not just go and get his ass the next day? I don't think he was going to run to far in that condition. Wouldn't that have been better than going to war? 6. Why would the records of cell phone calls from a cruising altitude airplane be given to the public knowing that the technology was not possible at the time for a cell phone call to connect to anyone from that distance? Did they want to get caught? Or was it possible for a cell phone call to reach the range despite the fact that American Airlines spent thousands of dollars some years later on a new technology that made it possible for the first time? 7. Why was the crash in PA the first ground crash in the history of the world that showed virtually no debris field? No wreckage to speak of no luggage not seats, no wings no engines just a hole? 8. Why was the airport in Ohio that morning evacuated and people were made to leave on foot..Not allowed to drive out of the airport but on foot? Has this ever happened before? 9. Why during that time, and at that airport were not one but two airplanes allowed to land and offload their passengers and no one investigate the events? Who were the passengers? And where are they now? 10. If a missile is not what hit the pentagon as clearly it could have been nothing else, why have none of the 80+ pentagon camera tapes or the 3 outside tapes been shown to the public except for 5 frames of a tape from the pentagon? Which by the way does not show an aircraft hitting the building? 11. If in fact a plane did hit the pentagon and burst into flames and burn hot enough to take down the world trade centers and another building from fire, why in some of those photos can we see between the first and second wall barriers a chair and open book on the second floor on the edge untouched by flames? 12. If the airplane hit the pentagon and incinerated it due to the intense heat and impact as the commission report has said why then in the same location can we see a file cabinet and computer monitor among other things? Perhaps they are made with materials unlike any other in the world? Explain please! 13. Why if it was a plane that hit the pentagon is there only a round hole at the impact zone and the windows in the building beside the impact still intact? Even if the planes wings could not penetrate the building, I am sure that they would have been able to at least mark the building and brake a damn window! Furthermore where then are those wings? 14. The weekend before the attack is it actually true that the security systems in the single most financial building in the world were brought completely down and the dogs removed for 2 days, leaving it virtually unprotected, merely to update the fiber optics for internet access? 15. Is it true that President Bush family members , brother and cousin were the ceo and board members of the security company that protected the world trade center? 16. Why did Mayor Rudy Guiliani order the immediate loading of all pieces of the steel from the WTC onto trucks and onto a boat out of this country to be melted? Before being examined for residue from blast materials etc. This one act boggles my mind like no other. __________________ YanksCash.com -->Check out our FREE content feed here. ICQ 421-670-215

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