Great Zango slashdot article - GoFuckYourself.com

Karupted Charles · 05-21-2007, 12:34 PM

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/05/21/1415242.shtml

Seams more then just adult is developing a problem. Wonder if will76 is going to team up with this guy.

jayeff · 05-21-2007, 01:11 PM

"In particular, these programs show ads that overcharge affiliate merchants -- especially by claiming commission on organic traffic merchants would have received anyway."

"...browsed Blockbuster. Observing the requested traffic to Blockbuster, Zango opened a popup sending traffic to Roundads.com. Roundads redirected to Performics and then back to Blockbuster. To a typical user, this pop-up is easy to ignore -- just a second copy of the Blockbuster site, which users had requested in the first place. But the pop-up has serious cost implications for Blockbuster: If the user signs up with Blockbuster, through either window, then Blockbuster concludes it should pay a $18 commission to Roundads via Performics. That's a sham: Were it not for Zango's intervention, Blockbuster could have kept the entirety of the user's subscription fee, without paying any commission at all."

Evil E · 05-21-2007, 01:19 PM

"...I arrived at the unshakeable conclusion that people in marketing businesses are relentless assholes who can only see things with dollar signs and care nothing about collateral damage they may cause. You can apply this to printed free papers who often litter the streets of many urban and suburban neighborhoods with their distribution boxes and papers flying through the air. You can apply this to spammers who are still convinced among themselves that they are not bad people and only annoy people a little. Just about anywhere there are marketing people, you will see them pushing over the edge of what is acceptable practices and behavior... not every marketer is like this, but the "successful" ones are definitely of that breed."

http://www.benedelman.org/news/052107-1.html

SmokeyTheBear · 05-21-2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

" Were it not for Zango's intervention, Blockbuster could have kept the entirety of the user's subscription fee, without paying any commission at all."

this is where lars and others are out of the loop on the whole scam, they are actually paying more cost to affiliates than need be .. and on top of that ripping off the advertisers that actually promote the product, all that happens is real affiliates drop the sponsor and zango doesnt have as many links to steal thus , end results is less signups higher payout to affiliates..

great long term strategy

will76 · 05-22-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

this is where lars and others are out of the loop on the whole scam, they are actually paying more cost to affiliates than need be .. and on top of that ripping off the advertisers that actually promote the product, all that happens is real affiliates drop the sponsor and zango doesnt have as many links to steal thus , end results is less signups higher payout to affiliates..

great long term strategy

true dat/

RawAlex · 05-22-2007, 08:38 AM

My timing must be off. I posted this one yesterday and it sank like a rock.

One day the guys at sexsearch and AFF will realize that when you feed the spyware / malware / toolbar trolls, the only ones making any money are THEM. It is a thieving business that plays on the ignorance of both the surfer and a major business blindspot for the programs.

Paying someone else to get back your typein traffic - what a smooth business move.

Karupted Charles · 05-22-2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

My timing must be off. I posted this one yesterday and it sank like a rock.

I was surprised to still see this going today actually. Bump for making people realize Zango is no good even for the buyers.

RawAlex · 05-22-2007, 11:02 AM

That so few people in the business dare touch this is either total ignorance or fear that they would have to admit it and come out of the spyware closet.

They saw what happened to Lars, nobody else is going to jump out in front of that bus.

RobertD · 05-22-2007, 12:06 PM

Good thread, back to the top.

germ · 05-22-2007, 12:33 PM

good article

05-22-2007, 12:46 PM

Very interesting read. I'm really hoping to see this kind of shit squashed REAL soon. It's hurting everybody's bottom line.

kristin · 05-22-2007, 12:47 PM

Dang, Blockbuster pays $18/signup?

Not bad ...

GUNNER · 05-23-2007, 10:29 AM

it's only getting worse with Zango spinoffs popping up everywhere

05-21-2007, 12:34 PM	#1
Karupted Charles Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: MI Posts: 1,662	Great Zango slashdot article http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/05/21/1415242.shtml Seams more then just adult is developing a problem. Wonder if will76 is going to team up with this guy. __________________ TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"

05-21-2007, 01:19 PM	#3
Evil E Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lazyness is a lifestyle Posts: 3,201	"...I arrived at the unshakeable conclusion that people in marketing businesses are relentless assholes who can only see things with dollar signs and care nothing about collateral damage they may cause. You can apply this to printed free papers who often litter the streets of many urban and suburban neighborhoods with their distribution boxes and papers flying through the air. You can apply this to spammers who are still convinced among themselves that they are not bad people and only annoy people a little. Just about anywhere there are marketing people, you will see them pushing over the edge of what is acceptable practices and behavior... not every marketer is like this, but the "successful" ones are definitely of that breed." http://www.benedelman.org/news/052107-1.html __________________ A girl once told me "Give me 8 inches and make it HURT". So, I fucked her twice and hit her with a brick.

05-22-2007, 12:06 PM	#9
RobertD Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 1,149	Good thread, back to the top. __________________ Sexy Latinas

05-22-2007, 12:47 PM	#12
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Dang, Blockbuster pays $18/signup? Not bad ... __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

05-23-2007, 10:29 AM	#13
GUNNER Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,098	it's only getting worse with Zango spinoffs popping up everywhere __________________ gunner @tutamail.com 25 years in the jizz biz

05-21-2007, 01:11 PM	#2
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	"In particular, these programs show ads that overcharge affiliate merchants -- especially by claiming commission on organic traffic merchants would have received anyway." "...browsed Blockbuster. Observing the requested traffic to Blockbuster, Zango opened a popup sending traffic to Roundads.com. Roundads redirected to Performics and then back to Blockbuster. To a typical user, this pop-up is easy to ignore -- just a second copy of the Blockbuster site, which users had requested in the first place. But the pop-up has serious cost implications for Blockbuster: If the user signs up with Blockbuster, through either window, then Blockbuster concludes it should pay a $18 commission to Roundads via Performics. That's a sham: Were it not for Zango's intervention, Blockbuster could have kept the entirety of the user's subscription fee, without paying any commission at all."

05-22-2007, 08:38 AM	#6
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	My timing must be off. I posted this one yesterday and it sank like a rock. One day the guys at sexsearch and AFF will realize that when you feed the spyware / malware / toolbar trolls, the only ones making any money are THEM. It is a thieving business that plays on the ignorance of both the surfer and a major business blindspot for the programs. Paying someone else to get back your typein traffic - what a smooth business move.

05-22-2007, 11:02 AM	#8
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	That so few people in the business dare touch this is either total ignorance or fear that they would have to admit it and come out of the spyware closet. They saw what happened to Lars, nobody else is going to jump out in front of that bus.

05-22-2007, 12:33 PM	#10
germ ( o Y o ) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,108	good article

05-22-2007, 12:46 PM	#11
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Very interesting read. I'm really hoping to see this kind of shit squashed REAL soon. It's hurting everybody's bottom line.