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Old 05-22-2007, 01:58 AM   #1
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Jay?s XXX Webmaster Stats Run (NOVEMBER 2006 TO MAY 2007)

I?ve been busy as hell -- it?s been a while since I?ve published stats. Watch me use my laziness to turn lemons into lemonade:

The Latest Run of Jays XXX Stats is here:
http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html


There are a couple things that are cool about these stats:
1. They?ve been compiled from 11 months of data. With such a greater sample of information the playing field will be leveled quite a bit. Everything is measured from the EPC (Earning Per Click). Revshare programs don?t have to get the shaft on this one with enough time to properly quantify rebills. VOD will get a fair chance as well. What is better to send your traffic to? Is it dating sponsors, cams, VOD, or paysites that will earn you the most over time? Look and see.

2. 90% of the traffic sent to sponsors has been through link tracking on our side. JQMedia uses a link repository: (Example: http://www.links-module.com/out/bubblebuttsgalore.com/), so I will be able to pull some real numbers on any sponsor in question on how they really report numbers. I will be able to match the hits out through my server logs against what shows in the admin for each program.

3. This Run will be done Web 2.0 style. Meaning: If there are programs on here you don?t think I?ve reported correctly, I will go back and use my vast pool of data to garner the real numbers. I will take input from this thread to update this stats run. I don?t have the time to go through over 100 programs to figure out what is what. You tell me, I?ll check it, and I?ll make it right based on my data.

4. No sponsor has been listed unless there have been at least 5000 click out. For most, it was much more.
Here are a couple points of interest from this run:
- REMEMBER: The most important thing of all is who brang home the bacon. These are the guys that did: http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/...ers.html#money ? At the end of the day, those are really the best guys, no matter how the ratios wash out.

- Not to pick on Realitycash, they are one of my best sponsors, but I really don?t know what?s going on with the ?Qualified Hits? thing. If it went out the door, it qualified. I am going to start counting some of that link tracking to get to the bottom of this. Got a program you want to ?out?? Post it here.

- PerfectGonzo is now showing their stats a lot better now. Congrats on that!

- It seems that saturation has become a bigger factor with a lot of the big affiliate programs that once dominated have fallen to the end of the list. Again, not to pick on anyone, but an example of this would be Platinumbucks falling so far back. They had been a solid Top 10 sponsor for years. I?m sure they will come back with something killer soon.

- It seems that medium exposure sponsors with good content offer the best EPC at the moment.

- PPS isn?t always better than Revshare. Again, not to pick, but my ration with Jaymancash were atrocious, but I did sent 2 joins and they rebilled over 13 times. I made over $100 on each of these signups and they are still rebilling!

- There a few sponsors on this list I think could be headed someplace: Fuckyoucash, T-Shirt Hell, and AdultMovieClub all had a nice time in the list. Movieroom also is running up some nice rebills.

- Say whatever you want but AEBN and Adult Friend Finder make money!
Ok, sorry about the ?War and Peace? length post. Check out the stats, post your comments, and I will look into anything I think has merit.

The Latest Run of Jays XXX Stats is here:
http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html


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Old 05-22-2007, 02:02 AM   #2
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Good to see its confirmed again that what works for one is not necessary working for another. So allthough you did a great job by providing this it's not realy interesting for others unless they have the same source of traffic not?

Nice to see what works for you though ;)))
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Good to see its confirmed again that what works for one is not necessary working for another. So allthough you did a great job by providing this it's not realy interesting for others unless they have the same source of traffic not?

Nice to see what works for you though ;)))
It is a good mix of linklist, blog, seo, and some tgp traffic...a lot of it.
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I think you should add XXXRewards to your list, we convert like a mofo with them, Karups PC etc.
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It is a good mix of linklist, blog, seo, and some tgp traffic...a lot of it.
I always thought most of your traffic was from SE's ?!
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- PPS isn?t always better than Revshare. Again, not to pick, but my ration with Jaymancash were atrocious, but I did sent 2 joins and they rebilled over 13 times. I made over $100 on each of these signups and they are still rebilling!

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I always thought most of your traffic was from SE's ?!
Ha...I wish. I get my share. I just bought a few different networks of sites that have different traffic sources and www.snizzshare.com - which I've even bought quite a bit of traffic for. I have toplists, tgps, blogs on over 150+ domains.
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Ha...I wish. I get my share. I just bought a few different networks of sites that have different traffic sources and www.snizzshare.com - which I've even bought quite a bit of traffic for. I have toplists, tgps, blogs on over 150+ domains.
sounds like a healthy network of various sources, good job!
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I think you should add a couple more decimal points to the earnings per click since they're all so close.. or maybe what would be a lot better would be to make it earnings per thousands clicks.. What would be cool also is if you added some javascript so that us stats nuts could sort the table based on either the ratio or earnings per click..

You're hall of shame is interesting.. I'm about to give up on ImLive even though I think the product is great and go back to iFriends and try out Streamate..

I banned FatPays from my sites at least a year ago (maybe 2 now)... Too much gallery spamming and then redirecting of galleries to sites that appeared to be owned by that program.. Never spent the time to conclusively prove it but the domain info etc. was more than enough for me... What's interesting though is that I have one page that still has a couple links for them way near the bottom and they fucking convert like crazy with the right traffic.
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I think you should add a couple more decimal points to the earnings per click since they're all so close.. or maybe what would be a lot better would be to make it earnings per thousands clicks.. What would be cool also is if you added some javascript so that us stats nuts could sort the table based on either the ratio or earnings per click..

You're hall of shame is interesting.. I'm about to give up on ImLive even though I think the product is great and go back to iFriends and try out Streamate..

I banned FatPays from my sites at least a year ago (maybe 2 now)... Too much gallery spamming and then redirecting of galleries to sites that appeared to be owned by that program.. Never spent the time to conclusively prove it but the domain info etc. was more than enough for me... What's interesting though is that I have one page that still has a couple links for them way near the bottom and they fucking convert like crazy with the right traffic.
A lot of these program wow newbie webmasters with these really huge payouts. I've always thought if it sounds too good to be true...it probably is.
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Nice stuff Jay. If you're looking for some feedback, I think it would be cool if for each sponsor, you published the ratio you've calculated using your "hits out" link tracking script and published the ratio the sponsor gives you. That way us webmasters could see how much particular sponsors distort ratios.
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Nice stuff Jay. If you're looking for some feedback, I think it would be cool if for each sponsor, you published the ratio you've calculated using your "hits out" link tracking script and published the ratio the sponsor gives you. That way us webmasters could see how much particular sponsors distort ratios.
That would be a great idea, I'd love to see that too
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Nice stuff Jay. If you're looking for some feedback, I think it would be cool if for each sponsor, you published the ratio you've calculated using your "hits out" link tracking script and published the ratio the sponsor gives you. That way us webmasters could see how much particular sponsors distort ratios.
If I had that kind of time, I would do it. We could do it on a case by case basis since there are quite a few that show the real raw numbers and we already know that.
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So, how do we get you promoting Max Cash sites? With new sites, new promo tools on the way, etc I am sure you could do things with us.
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Gotta agree with XXX Rewards. Karups PC, Karups HA, Karups OW and their gay site are all solid sellers and insane rebillers.

Should also give us (Inetbucks) a try with your hairy traffic with our site Allhairy.com
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Jay i think you should add us to the list, our stuff is fresh and it converts! Give it shot...Elitedollars.com

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Do I own Karups PC?!$! bwahahah no I wish.

I run http://www.adultsitesurfer.com
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Just giving you my honest info here, have promoted them for years now and they never disappoint. I'd post my stats here but they're too scary good.
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So, how do we get you promoting Max Cash sites? With new sites, new promo tools on the way, etc I am sure you could do things with us.
Maxcash...I used to do good with them back in the day. I didn't even know they were still around. One way you can get traffic if it is a site I am not promoting is to start uploading with snizzshare.

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Gotta agree with XXX Rewards. Karups PC, Karups HA, Karups OW and their gay site are all solid sellers and insane rebillers.

Should also give us (Inetbucks) a try with your hairy traffic with our site Allhairy.com
Aren't you guys set up on snizzshare?
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We are very much still around. The other day I was looking at your gay link list and thinking about getting our new gay paysites on there, etc. So, I will send an email
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Just giving you my honest info here, have promoted them for years now and they never disappoint. I'd post my stats here but they're too scary good.
i karups really that good? I looked at their sites...seemed kind of old school. Anyone else?
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Yes... I'm checking out snizzshare i'll probably get the minions to start uploading!

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Hey Jay..nice list..have you tried some of the newer NScash.com sites and ones we merged from ReelProfits with them? Yes, they are exclusive:

www.monsterloads.com
www.reelpass.com

www.pornewcomer.com
www.bustycollegecoeds.com

We just released a bunch of brand new galleries as well and can get you pretty much anything you need.

Also, if you're trading traffic or partner accounts, we have some spots open on our MGP

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Pretty crazy that NaughtyAmerica is 1:6k and is one of your top ten earners.. you must send them a TON of traffic, or they are rebilling thru the roof.
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Hey Jay..nice list..have you tried some of the newer NScash.com sites and ones we merged from ReelProfits with them? Yes, they are exclusive:

www.monsterloads.com
www.reelpass.com

www.pornewcomer.com
www.bustycollegecoeds.com

We just released a bunch of brand new galleries as well and can get you pretty much anything you need.

Also, if you're trading traffic or partner accounts, we have some spots open on our MGP

Hit me up if you need anything
Ok, question about the NSCash...I have an NSCash account, so now I can automaticly promote those other programs? Does it stay all in 1 account and payout? Do you have them all in the same copy of NATS? I like what you did but I am a little confused by it.

NSCash is one of my favorite revshare sponsors.
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Pretty crazy that NaughtyAmerica is 1:6k and is one of your top ten earners.. you must send them a TON of traffic, or they are rebilling thru the roof.
Both. Even though Naughty's conversions have been pretty bad. They do rebill awesome and I've pushed them for a long time so those rebills add up. I never got on their PPS program because I made so much more money just taking the rebills.
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Woohooo... Awesome to see that Topbucks is the #1 TOP MONEY MAKER!!

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Ok, question about the NSCash...I have an NSCash account, so now I can automaticly promote those other programs? Does it stay all in 1 account and payout? Do you have them all in the same copy of NATS? I like what you did but I am a little confused by it.

NSCash is one of my favorite revshare sponsors.
Jay, here are some answers below for ya..

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I have an NSCash account, so now I can automaticly promote those other programs?
Absolutely. When you login to NScash, you will see tabs for each program on the toolbar, our sites are listed under 'ReelProfits' tab. You can grab linking codes, FHG's, banners, etc from there or any other program/site under NScash.

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Does it stay all in 1 account and payout?
Absolutely. All your linking codes are under your main NScash account, no matter which site/program you promote. You will earn ONE check/wire/payment for everything.

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Do you have them all in the same copy of NATS?
We don't use NATS but yes, they are all inside NScash.com.

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NSCash is one of my favorite revshare sponsors
Awesome. Just so you know www.reelpass.com now includes 12+ NScash sites including ours so the revshare and retention is amazing.

LMK if you need anything, links, galleries, banners, custom tools, etc.

Hope this answers your question, I'm always reachable on ICQ.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:58 PM   #41
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Jay, here are some answers below for ya..



Absolutely. When you login to NScash, you will see tabs for each program on the toolbar, our sites are listed under 'ReelProfits' tab. You can grab linking codes, FHG's, banners, etc from there or any other program/site under NScash.



Absolutely. All your linking codes are under your main NScash account, no matter which site/program you promote. You will earn ONE check/wire/payment for everything.



We don't use NATS but yes, they are all inside NScash.com.



Awesome. Just so you know www.reelpass.com now includes 12+ NScash sites including ours so the revshare and retention is amazing.

LMK if you need anything, links, galleries, banners, custom tools, etc.

Hope this answers your question, I'm always reachable on ICQ.
Thanks for that info man. Very helpful.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:18 PM   #42
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Thanks for that info man. Very helpful.
np..that's what we're here for. My ICQ is in my sig should you need anything at all
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:28 PM   #43
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Nice read, I always enjoy these conversions type posts.
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Hey Jay, I see you're doing well with TCG but I don't see no LoveDollars.com stats.

With our new geotarget front ends and new members area, conversion and retention is threw the roof.

Don't beleive me but check on www.singles.com. Lonelywivesdatingclub.com is #1 in the top 10 most rated site and #2 overall. These are surfer votes ;-)

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Old 05-22-2007, 09:01 PM   #45
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I've made $90,000 with AMC already. Great site.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:06 PM   #46
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I've only made 36 sales on AEBN but they have recurred $863 over 2 years
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i think what most people need to remember is the different sites (traffic sources) will do better or worse with different sponsers but I honestly think that for the most part his top 10 would be most other's top 10 - the sponsers may rearrange a bit but my experience is similar with the top 10 companies
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Hey cool stats Jay well done on the recording of it all.
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I've made $90,000 with AMC already. Great site.
New AMC tour converting better than 1:18 for me
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:13 AM   #50
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Just checked your stats I dont think your looking at the right stats just in May your overall is
1/562 2nd page and 1/1494 first page

Maybe its doing alot better now you are promoting the new sites.
you should do it month to month


Please Hit me up so we can double check what your looking at.
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