Traffic leaks.... [biz thread] - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 05-31-2007, 07:27 PM

OK... So certain program owners like Shap have voiced their opinion about their affiliates using dating sponsors and sex toys in their galleries where the sponsors content also is being used.

They didn't like it. Basically in Shap's case it was because he felt the affiliate was using his content to sell other peoples shit.

So when I send surfers to sponsors like Hush Money and they popup an AFF popup when the surfer enters their website, should I be offended since this is basically a sale I should be sharing in?

Sly · 05-31-2007, 07:31 PM

Its all up to you really. If they're paying me PPS or 60+%, I'm much more lenient about what they can get away with. If its 50%, no leaks as a standard, if its something that really makes me money I'll overlook that.

Its all about the money made really. There isn't a black and white. Its all gray.

tranza · 05-31-2007, 07:43 PM

Yes, you should be offended.

nekrom · 05-31-2007, 09:21 PM

Same opinion as Sly in a nutshell basically. If it's a 50% revshare program, having leaks is just plain shite.

-N

Jamie · 05-31-2007, 09:58 PM

Should the affiliate also share the B/W and Hosting expense in the revshare model?
Should they share in the cost of content, payroll and business expenses?

Just curious where you draw the line?

FreeHugeMovies · 05-31-2007, 10:05 PM

How about BLATENT traffic leaks from normal tours?

V_RocKs · 05-31-2007, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie

Should the affiliate also share the B/W and Hosting expense in the revshare model?
Should they share in the cost of content, payroll and business expenses?

Just curious where you draw the line?

Sure, and then they can share in my BW expenses when I get them mad views on theHun... They can then pay my designer and pay my partner account fees.

phourt · 05-31-2007, 11:54 PM

yup, that's so true. it's all about the money no matter what they are saying.

Jamie · 06-01-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sure, and then they can share in my BW expenses when I get them mad views on theHun... They can then pay my designer and pay my partner account fees.

I guess the bottomline is if you don't like how the program is run then don't promote it. At the end of the day you have to evaluate your profit margins, just like the affiliate program.

Start you're own program then you can do whatever you want

Otherwise you play by their rules

Voodoo · 06-05-2007, 05:55 PM

Sorry for the delay in response, I didn't see this when it came up.

We have no popups anywhere on any of our sites, and never have. I'm wondering if maybe you have HushMoney mixed up with some other program? We tried promoting AFF early last year in the old member's areas, but it didn't do very well for us, so we removed it about a month later and haven't put anything back up. (This was on HoDough BTW). Neither HushMoney nor HoDoguh hasn't ever put popups up to my knowledge (Unless it was before my time, and most definitely not in the past year). If you're referring to our EXIT link on the current warning pages... I'd rather send the traffic somewhere that potentially earns $ when they exit, as opposed to sending to Google and completely losing the surfer.

Feel free to hit me up if you need anything. ICkEW: 12six36661

RawAlex · 06-05-2007, 06:01 PM

Any program that pops another programs sites on a console on load should be avoided like the plague.

The idea of a 60% partnership is a partnership - the affiliate and the program making money together. From what you are explaining, it would appear that one partner is profiting off of the other one.

Have you checked your computer for Zango and friends? They could be popping up AFF.

05-31-2007, 07:27 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Traffic leaks.... [biz thread] OK... So certain program owners like Shap have voiced their opinion about their affiliates using dating sponsors and sex toys in their galleries where the sponsors content also is being used. They didn't like it. Basically in Shap's case it was because he felt the affiliate was using his content to sell other peoples shit. So when I send surfers to sponsors like Hush Money and they popup an AFF popup when the surfer enters their website, should I be offended since this is basically a sale I should be sharing in?

05-31-2007, 07:31 PM	#2
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,328	Its all up to you really. If they're paying me PPS or 60+%, I'm much more lenient about what they can get away with. If its 50%, no leaks as a standard, if its something that really makes me money I'll overlook that. Its all about the money made really. There isn't a black and white. Its all gray. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Yes, you should be offended. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

05-31-2007, 09:21 PM	#4
nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	Same opinion as Sly in a nutshell basically. If it's a 50% revshare program, having leaks is just plain shite. -N __________________ Free Traffic

05-31-2007, 09:58 PM	#5
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	Should the affiliate also share the B/W and Hosting expense in the revshare model? Should they share in the cost of content, payroll and business expenses? Just curious where you draw the line? __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935 Last edited by Jamie; 05-31-2007 at 10:00 PM..

05-31-2007, 10:05 PM	#6
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	How about BLATENT traffic leaks from normal tours?

05-31-2007, 11:54 PM	#8
phourt Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 84	yup, that's so true. it's all about the money no matter what they are saying. __________________

06-05-2007, 05:55 PM	#10
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	Sorry for the delay in response, I didn't see this when it came up. We have no popups anywhere on any of our sites, and never have. I'm wondering if maybe you have HushMoney mixed up with some other program? We tried promoting AFF early last year in the old member's areas, but it didn't do very well for us, so we removed it about a month later and haven't put anything back up. (This was on HoDough BTW). Neither HushMoney nor HoDoguh hasn't ever put popups up to my knowledge (Unless it was before my time, and most definitely not in the past year). If you're referring to our EXIT link on the current warning pages... I'd rather send the traffic somewhere that potentially earns $ when they exit, as opposed to sending to Google and completely losing the surfer. Feel free to hit me up if you need anything. ICkEW: 12six36661 __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

06-05-2007, 06:01 PM	#11
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Any program that pops another programs sites on a console on load should be avoided like the plague. The idea of a 60% partnership is a partnership - the affiliate and the program making money together. From what you are explaining, it would appear that one partner is profiting off of the other one. Have you checked your computer for Zango and friends? They could be popping up AFF.