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Old 06-01-2007, 09:25 AM   #1
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Reasons to open an investigation into the internal terrorist bombing of 9/11

Top Facts:

Buildings collapsed at free fall rate - no resistance

Experts agree it is scientifically impossible that fire could have brought down the WTC towers 1 and 2 or building 7

Many eyewitnesses from all perspectives reported multiple explosions at the scene.

Video evidence clearly shows explosions as the buildings (1 & 2) collapse

Larry Silverstein used demolition term when he talked of building 7 "we made that decision to pull the building"

Reliable eye-witnesses such as former janitor William Rodriguez heard explosions in the basement before the first plane hit.

Substantial insider trading around 911 has never been properly investigated.

Several of the apparent hijackers have been found to be alive.

NORAD did not respond to normal standard operating procedure due to high level government interference related to drills taking place on 911.

There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although proven to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172, had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators. Nila Sagadevan is an aeronautical engineer and a qualified pilot. he explains how the maneuvers Hani Hanjour had to go through to reach the Pentagon are virtually impossible.

Al Qaeda was originally the name for a CIA database of terrorists used against the Russians in the eighties.

Wars which would likely not have been justified without 911 as a trump card have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Many more will suffer and die in coming years due to depleted uranium shells and the use of other NBC weapons - this includes our soldiers.

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Old 06-01-2007, 09:33 AM   #3
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im going to start an alien ufo thread right now also..i know franck cant help himself on those ones..lol


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we never landed on the moon and oswald was a patsy
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"I don't think so, Tim."


Nope, one won't be enough. Better buy him a complete set at Sears.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:49 AM   #8
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:50 AM   #9
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we never landed on the moon and oswald was a patsy
man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many
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man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many
I thought the whole moon thing was bs till i heard the point about hte blast crater under the lander... for that to land safely, there'd have to be a bit of a crater at the very least.. nothing
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we've done this too many times before. let's keep it short this time.

Bin Laden says, "We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. Due to my experience in this field I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for."
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man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many
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Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."
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You're 50% right at least. We did land on the moon, but yes, Oswald was a patsy.
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You're 50% right at least. We did land on the moon, but yes, Oswald was a patsy.
Not true... we didn't land on the moon because the moon isn't real. It's actually an advanced holographic projection. You can't land on a projection. Oh and Oswald wasn't a patsy, he was actually JFK in disguise. The guy who got shot was none other than Hitler.
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Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."
if i send you a video...and say it is osama..you wil believe me

even though he is wearing jewelrry forbidden to him...he is using his right hand when everyone knows he is left handed...etc etc


suck it up..towing the party line is always wise when your country is on the brink of civil and financial breakdown
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oh look, the one trick pony is back with more of his 9/11 facts.
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Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."
Umm, you are leaving out the fact that Bin Laden said this short after the attacks;

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.

It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces.

Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims."

Clearly denying involvement. This whole statement was not reported at all by the mainstream media.
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Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.
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Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.
i agree...when they tell me i should eat healthier i agree with them

when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe

i pick and choose at my own discretion
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Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.
Trust me, this is the time when questioning the government is really needed. Blind false flag-waving patriotism is what they want, and sadly that is what people are giving them.
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when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe

i pick and choose at my own discretion
Let me ask you a serious question Brad.

Do you ever do research looking for the other side of the argument to offset and balance things, or do you just read as much as you can on ONE side of things?
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Trust me, this is the time when questioning the government is really needed. Blind false flag-waving patriotism is what they want, and sadly that is what people are giving them.
You know what? I agree with that. "At this time" being the key phrase. But even "At this time" the government isn't lying to you 100% of the time.
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You know what? I agree with that. "At this time" being the key phrase. But even "At this time" the government isn't lying to you 100% of the time.
They are lying most of the time, and I can prove it.
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Do you ever do research looking for the other side of the argument to offset and balance things, or do you just read as much as you can on ONE side of things?
I hope and hope constantly that i am wrong about somethings

i have many friends who dont agree with me...i listen to their arguments
most of my friends offline hold similar degrees to me...they have their arguments....i enjoy hearing a valid argument from a smart person on any subject...i dont enjoy people who have nothing to offer and resort to name calling and using the term ":conspiracy theorist" I mean are there no other arguments they can offer?


whenever someone shows me their side of the story i always pay attention in the hopes that i missed something...perhaps i am wrong

i like to explore all avenues before i come to a conclusion.

on this i cant be swayed....call it a mathematicians hunch
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Ahh, the "I am a conspiracy website lunatic" catch-phrase.
Mind stopping the fox news style namecalling and providing some arguments for your statements?
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Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

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when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe
can you point to these mythical 30ft sections?
this pic also points out the fallicy of explosions in the basement

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Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

you have factual prrof of what you just said..i mean besides the comic strip cartoon you have there?

as i seem to remember him denying it bigtime

why the fuck would he attack the usa like that? so they can bomb the fuck out of the one country willing to let him be?

he never struck me as being a moron
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Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

Yes that is correct, however there is one little thing screwing up that argument. The tapes are false and fabricated evidence.

http://physics911.net/kevinbarrett
http://infowars.net/articles/februar...Osama_tape.htm

And then we have this, a statement from the FBI about Bin Laden and 911; ?No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.?

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60611155014535
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can you point to these mythical 30ft sections?
this pic also points out the fallicy of explosions in the basement

how does that pic point out anything?

anyone and their mother knows that almost all the steel was shipped away very very quickly to china or wherever to be smelted.

why not do it here? why not conduct an investigation into why there was molten metal still red hot weeks later? why would fires just constantly keep firing up? it is obvious to anyone that there were things some people didnt want to be found
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Mind stopping the fox news style namecalling and providing some arguments for your statements?
You want me to have a serious discussion about the likelihood that Osama changed his mind about claiming responsibility for 9/11 versus someone getting out his $14.95 Osama Bin Laden Halloween costume and staging a one hour long mock discussion with some Afghan Sheikh where he claims responsibility for the 9/11 attacks?

I think I'll stick to namecalling, Mr O'Reilly. Unless you are gonna take a few minutes to think of something to say that you didn't read on a conspiracy website.
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ok, prove it.
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm

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http://bush-lies.blogspot.com/

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor...7/22_lies.html
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i dont enjoy people who have nothing to offer and resort to name calling and using the term ":conspiracy theorist" I mean are there no other arguments they can offer?
I agree with that. However, virtually EVERY point you want to bring up in regards to the moon landing, I can send you a link to that dispells all of your points.

As for the 9/11 towers, I admittedly haven't done a ton of research on the subject, but still can find answers to most questions that make perfect sense.

But none of those answers are ever good enough.
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why the fuck would he attack the usa like that?
You mean the guy who declared war on America in the mid 1990's? Ummm, cuz he is the leader of al Qaeda. Which is WHAT kind of an organization? HINT: NOT a construction company.

He has made plenty of statements as to his motivations and they are all public and easy to find.

"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God," - Osama et al (1998)
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You want me to have a serious discussion about the likelihood that Osama changed his mind about claiming responsibility for 9/11 versus someone getting out his $14.95 Osama Bin Laden Halloween costume and staging a one hour long mock discussion with some Afghan Sheikh where he claims responsibility for the 9/11 attacks?

I think I'll stick to namecalling, Mr O'Reilly. Unless you are gonna take a few minutes to think of something to say that you didn't read on a conspiracy website.
Why are you avoiding the actual evidence of controlled demolition and the evidence that the tape was false?
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"Professor Bruce Lawrence ... says the recent tape is a fake and that Bin Laden has been dead for years. "

Should I keep reading or does it get even more ridiculous than this?

Osama dead would have been such a victory for Bush and the Republicans. We're to believe that osama is dead and that the CIA is making faux Osama tapes? Osama dead would give Bush more support for his actions; not less.

You sure don't want to talk about aliens seeding the earth or Castro killing JFK instead?
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You mean the guy who declared war on America in the mid 1990's? Ummm, cuz he is the leader of al Qaeda. Which is WHAT kind of an organization? HINT: NOT a construction company.

He has made plenty of statements as to his motivations and they are all public and easy to find.

"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God," - Osama et al (1998)
you mean the guy who worked for the CIA?
who helped fight the russian front for the usa?
you mean that guy?

that guy whos family owns about 7% of the usa?

is this the guy you are talking about? cause it is one thing to declare war...to get a voice in the news...it is quite another to attack a country.

why are some of the hijackers still alive?

what you belive that a couple planes can demolish steel buildings totally..yet you also believe passports fluttered down from the heavens and landed at the FBI's feet for them to use in their investigation...musta been an intervention from god himself


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Why are you avoiding the actual evidence of controlled demolition
Why do you avoid the even greater evidence of videotape of two Boeings plowing into skyscrapers, the buildings burning for a while and then collapsing?


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Why do you avoid the even greater evidence of videotape of two Boeings plowing into skyscrapers, the buildings burning for a while and then collapsing?


You better run out and get your Illuminati discount card renewed. I heard they have some great specials this month.
Yes, exactly, the towers collapsing after having been hit by airplanes. Exploding and falling at almost free fall speed with no resistance from lower floors into its own footprint. Do you think you can fly? Because breaking the laws of physics seems to be no stranger to your frame of mind.

And what about building 7? What happened there according to your perfectly fox news conditioned reality?
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is this the guy you are talking about? cause it is one thing to declare war...to get a voice in the news...it is quite another to attack a country.
He seems to have done quite well. I certainly wouldn't criticize his performance to date.

Al Qaeda is what again? A chain of Arab grocery stores? Wonder if they are going public soon. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ALQA
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He seems to have done quite well. I certainly wouldn't criticize his performance to date.

Al Qaeda is what again? A chain of Arab grocery stores? Wonder if they are going public soon. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ALQA
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