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Old 06-06-2007, 06:48 AM   #1
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Sick of manual submit to Smart-Thumbs? Let's make a difference!

Hello fellows webmasters and submitters!
Sometimes I am sick of manual submit to sites using Smart-Thumbs script and i can imagine many of you are too. I mean it is good, quality script and i am using it on my TGPs too, but the fact of manual submit need makes me crazy.
I am lucky that I know personally one of Smart-Thumbs guys and I discussed this with him recently. I was told that technically it is not a problem to make submit form like for example AutoGallery script has.
But I am only 1 little voice and ST guys don't care much what single person thinks, what is understandable. So i decided to appeal to all of you who can be interested in this change in Smart-Thumbs script to help me make it real!
I've already talked with Chameleon submitter support, as an leading submitters software company and representative of hundreds of submitters - and they agree that it is a good idea to start a serious dialog with Smart-Thumbs guys about this change.
I belive that lots of you have something to say to this theme as well now I can only wish that we will succeed!
Thanks for reading and possible support!
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:11 AM   #2
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I have to agree .. submitting into Smart thumbs is really pain in ass. But I doubt anybody will listen to us poor gallery submitters
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:12 AM   #3
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very good idea. this would actually make the job of many webmasters faster, easier and more effective... I am sure people would appreciate it a lot.
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:15 AM   #4
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You hit the right nail on the head Andromeda. I have been submitting to Smart Thumbs sites since they developed and launched the script and as you mention, submitting to the plenty of multiform sites like Smart-thumbs every day is very annonying and tireing.
I think the main change and improvement should be done by the owners of the submit software. There should not be a problem to add a feature for multi form submits. Some submitters are even using it, for example Mighty Submitter (but it has a lot of other missing features). I have been waiting for adding a similar feature to Dream Submitter, but those guys are still promissing the change for more than a year with no practical implementation. So if someone from the submit software company is reading this message, try to be inspired by it. Multiform auto submit would be welcome (also Vanilla script is multi form) and some options included in submitter for allowing to choose the correct thumbnail (in case that thumbnail upload field is disabled by the script) would be the right thing.
Of course an alternative way is to create a simple page by Smart-thumbs owner, allowing the submission of a gallery in a single step (for example with submitter).
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:23 AM   #5
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Hi to all, I support the idea that ST should be easer to receive galls from submitters. It would be better to us, submitters, and it would be better to ST too.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:26 AM   #6
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Howdy, Vince from Smartthumbs here..


Well, this is funny as many website owners actualy hate autosubmitters

Anyway, this is noted and i will discuss it with my partners..who knows it might be added, but for now we are working on a new project that needs to be finished first before we start working on ST again.

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Old 06-07-2007, 02:28 AM   #7
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Thank you all guys for your interest!
to Godsmack: Hello Vince, thank you for joining this discussion too, your note about webmasters that don't like autosubmitters - truth is that there is a few TGP owners (usually old and big TGPs) that don't like it, but submitting today is not possible without autosubmitting and every objective webmaster should admit that, if you are TheHun and request manual submit, i see no problem in that, but ST is used mostly by smaller sites (there are huge sites too, of course) and if webmaster of small sites requires manual submit to his small site, it is not very effective, takes too much time for nothing.
What i am talking here about is a POSSIBILITY of 1-level submit form, keep that login and 2-level one + add the 1-level and give the webmasters a choice what to use, I can imagine this could help a lot more then any other ST upgrade you can make
Here on this thread you can see that people agree and believe me, there are hundreds others out there. It is really worth to consider.
Thank you, Andromeda.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:47 AM   #8
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Any half-competant coder could easily great a submit for for smart thumbs that writes stuff to the database just like smart thumbs itself does, but without captcha or whatever...

...don't ask me though, im waaaay too busy as it is.
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:22 AM   #9
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Thank you all guys for your interest!
to Godsmack: Hello Vince, thank you for joining this discussion too, your note about webmasters that don't like autosubmitters - truth is that there is a few TGP owners (usually old and big TGPs) that don't like it, but submitting today is not possible without autosubmitting and every objective webmaster should admit that, if you are TheHun and request manual submit, i see no problem in that, but ST is used mostly by smaller sites (there are huge sites too, of course) and if webmaster of small sites requires manual submit to his small site, it is not very effective, takes too much time for nothing.
What i am talking here about is a POSSIBILITY of 1-level submit form, keep that login and 2-level one + add the 1-level and give the webmasters a choice what to use, I can imagine this could help a lot more then any other ST upgrade you can make
Here on this thread you can see that people agree and believe me, there are hundreds others out there. It is really worth to consider.
Thank you, Andromeda.

I see your point and we will fix it, but we have no ETA..
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:02 AM   #10
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I manually submit via AS, and I don't like submitting to sites using Smart Thumbs. Since I took the time to build a gallery, I like to make sure that my submits go through. (I only submit to about 50 places) Smart Thumbs is the slowest script to wait on, and you can't not wait on it, as the thumb option is offered last.
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:27 PM   #11
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I had to come back here and post to say I was wrong. I was thinking of Vanilla, not Smart Thumbs. I don't have an issue with the ST submit process at all.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:18 PM   #12
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selena: What do you mean by "I dont have an issue with the ST submit process at all"? Smart thumbs script is one of the slowest script for submissions.
1) you have to log in
2) you have to fill in your gallery details (some sites have also captcha code)
3) if thumbnail upload option is turned off, you are not able to finish the submission and have to continue with the next step
4) you have to click the submit button and wait to load all thumbnails from the gallery
5) you have to click to the correct one and wait when the submission is complete

I think this is pretty annonying if you submit to 30 sites using smart-thumbs script. 5 galleries a daily...
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:37 PM   #13
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selena: What do you mean by "I dont have an issue with the ST submit process at all"?

I mean just that. I only submit to one site using it, and there is no catchpa on it, and I am able to upload a thumb. It goes fast for me. It could just be the way that the owner has it configured, I can't really speak to that.

Vanilla was the script I was thinking of when I originally posted, and I have stopped submitting to some sites that use it because it wasn't worth the hassle of having to wait on that script.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:44 PM   #14
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You are complainning about login, is that it?
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:00 AM   #15
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tranza: Yes. Please check my post #12
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:13 AM   #16
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cause spending 10 mins is just out of the question, too many people complain in this industry
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:35 AM   #17
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Thanx for your opinion guys, but this is more about the principle, than that anyone is complaining. Most of another regular TGP scripts has 1-level forms, easy for autosubmit, why ST can't have? There is no advantage in that.
My intention was to point to script imperfection and ask the creators of ST to updgrade it, if they think that there is no problem, ok then ... but they are creators, not users and I dare to declare that users are the ones, who's demands should be followed, if the product wants to move forward.
ST went thru many and many upgrades in past, so I see no reason why this simple thing should not be done in next upgrade, I can guarantee that it helps 100x more people than ANY other upgrade that can be made.
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:50 AM   #18
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ST went thru many and many upgrades in past, so I see no reason why this simple thing should not be done in next upgrade, I can guarantee that it helps 100x more people than ANY other upgrade that can be made.
I have a real simple answer for this..
You are the first one to have this complaint
We always listen very carefully what our clients have to say, and really you are the first that complains about the submit page.
We do however take every complaint seriously and when we feel your complaint has enough weight we will take action for sure.
But you gotta understand that we can't just change stuff for every person that has an complaint.
Your problem is noted though, we do take you serious.

btw, why do you think the ST crew are not users?
We all run tgp's and we get 100's of submits per day.
ST would never have been as good as it is now if we were not users ourself.

We will see what we can do..

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Old 06-26-2007, 10:55 AM   #19
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(also Vanilla script is multi form)
Vanilla has worse problems... For example if your gallery uses 2 different thumb sizes, vanilla fails to correctly count the number of thumbs/pics in your gallery.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:19 AM   #20
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what about just coding ur own script lol. u guys are fucking full of cash, why not just pay some indian to code something
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