MISSING PAYMENTS!! Sponsors who FORGET to pay Affilates Here and There.... - GoFuckYourself.com

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:24 PM

Im doing my half-yearly Audit on all the programs I promote to make sure all checks have been recieved and logged in for all pay periods from all programs.

I promote some 50 or so programs, many have great reputaions and are well known.

Youd be suprised how many programs are missing payments here and there! Several straight pay periods paid, then one missing, and then several more paid. One out of every 12 or so payments, then one goes missing only to pay like clockwork for 12 more payperiods in a row. Most people would never notice.

Im sure they are honest mistakes. But its intresting to see how many checks "get lost in the mail" and never make it...

Very intresting.

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:25 PM

I wonder how many webmasters never catch this. Im sure its pretty high. It takes extra effort to log every check by deposit date, issue date, pay period date, check # and amount into a log every week. And then to go over it to make sure all has been paid.

I do it, but im sure many others dont. And I bet they never get paid for these "missing checks"

Disturbing.

Tempest · 06-12-2007, 09:25 PM

yes it is...

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:27 PM

Get this.. I wont name names, but they are well known programs.. Shit you not...

In the half yearly audit I just completed Im missing $643.40 total.

Its not much in the big picture for a six month period. But its a lot if these "missing checks" go missing for a bunch of people.

Ice · 06-12-2007, 09:28 PM

I fucked her

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:30 PM

Funny thing is, many of these programs are from people who I have established good relationships with over the years. People who's parties ive gone to and people whom have taken me out to appreciaton dinners..

Im not saying they are scammers, but for the avarage person they may not know the program owners by name or have good ties with the reps to get this taken care of as I do..

Then you see the GFY posts from the nobodys here accusing programs of not paying them.. I kinda feel for them.. But I say nothing. Knowing that the person doing the acusing may have a point. And may never get paid.

Yet I stay quitet becasue at one time the program owners or reps bought me a drink.

06-12-2007, 09:30 PM

I noticed the same. I wish I were just behind $600... I'm behind a couple thousand and it's starting to get a bit irritating.

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:35 PM

Anyhow people, check your emails. I sent out 9 emails to programs just now pointing out missing payments for pay periods in 2007..

Im sure Ill get paid. But once, just once I may be the person calling someone out saying they dont pay. LOL..

Knock on wood hasnt happened yet.. Ive always gotten paid... Even the shady dialer people back in the day paid me before closing up shop.

Even Like Whoa, I got out before they locked up. I always had good treatment even from the scammers..

Power of the Family I guess.
BP4L

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 09:36 PM

I miss the days where the program would just rip ya off the old fashoned way.. On the backend with good ole fashoned shaving...

Vince Russo · 06-12-2007, 09:42 PM

Like Whoa? Staying quiet when webmasters call out programs for ripping them off not paying because they bought you a drink at one time?

You are the disturbing one. Where I come from they call that a "sell out"

Bods4Mods · 06-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice

I fucked her

Kinda funny you posted in this thread - Still waiting for a answer

dank · 06-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince Russo

Like Whoa? Staying quiet when webmasters call out programs for ripping them off not paying because they bought you a drink at one time?

You are the disturbing one. Where I come from they call that a "sell out"

No..

Thats called Family.....

NTSS · 06-12-2007, 09:49 PM

In four years Ive had only one program contact me to say that I had a payment missing and that I needed to login to select a payment option so that I could get paid. Now that's honesty.

I've had to contact a few to ask for payment... most pay on time

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-12-2007, 09:54 PM

Epic cash converts like shit but they always pay on time. I have never ever had problems with epic cash!

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-12-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dank

No..

Thats called Family.....

How much for anal?

VIPimp · 06-12-2007, 09:59 PM

If I have any problem paying out someone like invalid epass id, wrong addy ect,,, I try to make atleast one attempt to contact the affiliate.
There is actually some affiliates who keep making sales period after period and ignore my msgs/emails trying to get their acct updated with proper payout info.

Snake Doctor · 06-12-2007, 10:01 PM

Since these are obviously small amounts you're talking about, is it possible the "missing" checks were actually pay periods where you didn't hit the minimum and that money was rolled into the next check?

boneprone · 06-12-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Since these are obviously small amounts you're talking about, is it possible the "missing" checks were actually pay periods where you didn't hit the minimum and that money was rolled into the next check?

Nope...

When this occurs the amount is then carried over to the next period..

You always have to look at each check and ref it to the pay period otherwise you could confuse minimum carryovers with non-payment.

tolik · 06-12-2007, 11:33 PM

well - it happening sometime. i had similar problems when my epass account been frozen and some payouts been shown at programs as sent but does not processed in reality.

boneprone · 06-13-2007, 02:15 AM

Its 2:30 am..

I finally finished... Damn. That was a lot of work.

I really dont see many webmasters doing this.

Aussie Rebel · 06-13-2007, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

Get this.. I wont name names, but they are well known programs.. Shit you not...

There is one Big well known sponsor here (I wont name names either) that I have to email every 2 weeks without fail for over 2 years just to get my wire from them every 2 weeks, I haven't promoted them for years now, it's all recurring and only a coupla hundred every 2 weeks, but fuck it is so fucking annoying.

boneprone · 06-13-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

There is one Big well known sponsor here (I wont name names either) that I have to email every 2 weeks without fail for over 2 years just to get my wire from them every 2 weeks, I haven't promoted them for years now, it's all recurring and only a coupla hundred every 2 weeks, but fuck it is so fucking annoying.

Yep.. Ive been there....

You wonder what would happen if you didnt ever send reminders to them to pay you?

Disturbing huh?

FreeOnes · 06-13-2007, 11:30 AM

I do this for many years already and have developped an own program to do this fast. I would miss soooooooo much money if I wouldn't do this.

clicker · 06-13-2007, 12:08 PM

Excel is all you need to track payments although it is a tedious process it works if you stay up on it. One major company I promote told me that I had to wait 3 months before they could put a stop payment on the check and reissue. That hurts so we shall see how it turns out.

boneprone · 06-13-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes

I do this for many years already and have developped an own program to do this fast. I would miss soooooooo much money if I wouldn't do this.

Yeah like me, you also have a lot of sponsors to keep track of.

What kind of program did you develop??

I use an excel spread sheat like the person who posted below you.

But it takes a lot of work..

Its easy work, but it takes time. I can spend several hours a week logging in checks.

Theo · 06-13-2007, 02:48 PM

BP, when is the family gonna send some love to dieselaction?

boneprone · 06-28-2007, 09:45 AM

FOund a couple more...

If anyone who would like to talk in private and swap info on companies who mysteriously miss payments here and there hit me up. I have a few red flaged for a closer watch. Perhaps you have some as well.

icq: 66883099

NTSS · 06-28-2007, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

There is one Big well known sponsor here (I wont name names either) that I have to email every 2 weeks without fail for over 2 years just to get my wire from them every 2 weeks, I haven't promoted them for years now, it's all recurring and only a coupla hundred every 2 weeks, but fuck it is so fucking annoying.

Bet I know who that is...

starpimps · 06-28-2007, 09:59 AM

great thread boneprone..at the end of the month ill try and do an audit
its going to take me awhile tho

_Richard_ · 06-28-2007, 10:01 AM

Do you get the cheques by mail? is it frequently enough that it wouldn't have been lost in the mail?

i find it odd that companies would miss payments like this.. it just doesn't make sense. They'd actually have to make the payment in some form for the money not to be rolled over

suesheboy · 06-28-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

Funny thing is, many of these programs are from people who I have established good relationships with over the years. People who's parties ive gone to and people whom have taken me out to appreciaton dinners..

Yet I stay quitet becasue at one time the program owners or reps bought me a drink.

are $1,200 a year drinks worth it? I think not.

I know someone in the pencil business who used to short ship 1 pencil per gross and in 14 years never got caught. The same guy would invoice all new customers even if they prepaid and he said 25% or more would end up double paying.

I never had a single bill ever get lost in the mail on the way to me other than when my mail box blew away in hurricane Wilma. I never believed the lost check - after all - how many called you to say that their check never cleared?

suesheboy · 06-28-2007, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clicker

Excel is all you need to track payments although it is a tedious process it works if you stay up on it. One major company I promote told me that I had to wait 3 months before they could put a stop payment on the check and reissue. That hurts so we shall see how it turns out.

Out the fucker

tranza · 06-28-2007, 11:15 AM

After reading this thread I'll be checking all my payments this year....

06-12-2007, 09:24 PM	#1
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	MISSING PAYMENTS!! Sponsors who FORGET to pay Affilates Here and There.... Im doing my half-yearly Audit on all the programs I promote to make sure all checks have been recieved and logged in for all pay periods from all programs. I promote some 50 or so programs, many have great reputaions and are well known. Youd be suprised how many programs are missing payments here and there! Several straight pay periods paid, then one missing, and then several more paid. One out of every 12 or so payments, then one goes missing only to pay like clockwork for 12 more payperiods in a row. Most people would never notice. Im sure they are honest mistakes. But its intresting to see how many checks "get lost in the mail" and never make it... Very intresting. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-12-2007, 09:25 PM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I wonder how many webmasters never catch this. Im sure its pretty high. It takes extra effort to log every check by deposit date, issue date, pay period date, check # and amount into a log every week. And then to go over it to make sure all has been paid. I do it, but im sure many others dont. And I bet they never get paid for these "missing checks" Disturbing. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-12-2007, 09:27 PM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Get this.. I wont name names, but they are well known programs.. Shit you not... In the half yearly audit I just completed Im missing $643.40 total. Its not much in the big picture for a six month period. But its a lot if these "missing checks" go missing for a bunch of people. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-12-2007, 09:28 PM	#5
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	I fucked her __________________ icq 1904905

06-12-2007, 09:30 PM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Funny thing is, many of these programs are from people who I have established good relationships with over the years. People who's parties ive gone to and people whom have taken me out to appreciaton dinners.. Im not saying they are scammers, but for the avarage person they may not know the program owners by name or have good ties with the reps to get this taken care of as I do.. Then you see the GFY posts from the nobodys here accusing programs of not paying them.. I kinda feel for them.. But I say nothing. Knowing that the person doing the acusing may have a point. And may never get paid. Yet I stay quitet becasue at one time the program owners or reps bought me a drink. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-12-2007, 09:25 PM	#3
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	yes it is...

06-12-2007, 09:30 PM	#7
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I noticed the same. I wish I were just behind $600... I'm behind a couple thousand and it's starting to get a bit irritating.

06-12-2007, 09:35 PM	#8
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Anyhow people, check your emails. I sent out 9 emails to programs just now pointing out missing payments for pay periods in 2007.. Im sure Ill get paid. But once, just once I may be the person calling someone out saying they dont pay. LOL.. Knock on wood hasnt happened yet.. Ive always gotten paid... Even the shady dialer people back in the day paid me before closing up shop. Even Like Whoa, I got out before they locked up. I always had good treatment even from the scammers.. Power of the Family I guess. BP4L __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-12-2007, 09:36 PM	#9
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I miss the days where the program would just rip ya off the old fashoned way.. On the backend with good ole fashoned shaving... __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 06-12-2007 at 09:38 PM..

06-12-2007, 09:42 PM	#10
Vince Russo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 339	Like Whoa? Staying quiet when webmasters call out programs for ripping them off not paying because they bought you a drink at one time? You are the disturbing one. Where I come from they call that a "sell out"

06-12-2007, 09:49 PM	#13
NTSS Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Da Hood Posts: 5,688	In four years Ive had only one program contact me to say that I had a payment missing and that I needed to login to select a payment option so that I could get paid. Now that's honesty. I've had to contact a few to ask for payment... most pay on time __________________ ICQ: 150-803-430 Email: marketing7(at)cox(dot)net

06-12-2007, 09:54 PM	#14
Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Taj Mahal of PORN, zip code - (.)(.) Posts: 1,442	Epic cash converts like shit but they always pay on time. I have never ever had problems with epic cash!

06-12-2007, 09:59 PM	#16
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	If I have any problem paying out someone like invalid epass id, wrong addy ect,,, I try to make atleast one attempt to contact the affiliate. There is actually some affiliates who keep making sales period after period and ignore my msgs/emails trying to get their acct updated with proper payout info.

06-12-2007, 10:01 PM	#17
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Since these are obviously small amounts you're talking about, is it possible the "missing" checks were actually pay periods where you didn't hit the minimum and that money was rolled into the next check?

06-12-2007, 11:33 PM	#19
tolik Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside my brain Posts: 2,035	well - it happening sometime. i had similar problems when my epass account been frozen and some payouts been shown at programs as sent but does not processed in reality. __________________ LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites. Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945 Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience): RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

06-13-2007, 02:15 AM	#20
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Its 2:30 am.. I finally finished... Damn. That was a lot of work. I really dont see many webmasters doing this. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-13-2007, 11:30 AM	#23
FreeOnes Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,400	I do this for many years already and have developped an own program to do this fast. I would miss soooooooo much money if I wouldn't do this. __________________ The new FreeOnes! - AdultFilmStarContent - BabeGalleries and much more! - 1Strike Movies and much more! All powered by Xpressa

06-13-2007, 12:08 PM	#24
clicker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Virtual Posts: 1,113	Excel is all you need to track payments although it is a tedious process it works if you stay up on it. One major company I promote told me that I had to wait 3 months before they could put a stop payment on the check and reissue. That hurts so we shall see how it turns out.

06-13-2007, 02:48 PM	#26
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	BP, when is the family gonna send some love to dieselaction?

06-28-2007, 09:45 AM	#27
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	FOund a couple more... If anyone who would like to talk in private and swap info on companies who mysteriously miss payments here and there hit me up. I have a few red flaged for a closer watch. Perhaps you have some as well. icq: 66883099 __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

06-28-2007, 09:59 AM	#29
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	great thread boneprone..at the end of the month ill try and do an audit its going to take me awhile tho __________________ Teen Porn Models / Solo Girls

06-28-2007, 10:01 AM	#30
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	Do you get the cheques by mail? is it frequently enough that it wouldn't have been lost in the mail? i find it odd that companies would miss payments like this.. it just doesn't make sense. They'd actually have to make the payment in some form for the money not to be rolled over

06-28-2007, 11:15 AM	#33
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	After reading this thread I'll be checking all my payments this year.... __________________ I'm just a newbie.