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The Walrus · 06-16-2007, 01:23 PM

50 arguments

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus

Why would they buy ANYTHING if they can get it for FREE?

Would you go drop $100 at the grocery store if there was a truck out in front of your house everyday stocked with everything you needed, wanted and then some? Come on man...

Then it comes back to finding a way to stop your content from being ripped off. Anyone have a suggestion for that? Cause until someone locks the truck in front of your house you'll just keep going to that truck. Who gave the stuff to the guy on the truck anyways?

will76 · 06-16-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You're a moron. Bangbros without question grew huge because of p2p. They put a good product out and let people have free samples. It wasnt by accident. Ideepthroat.com was the same way. Do you still support Ibill willy boy? Gotta love professional whiners. That you are great at.

so did you read about this after the fact, considering bang bus got popular 4 years before you even got involved in this industry.

It didn't have anything to do with their site, they were a huge success because of their free samples on p2p sites...

Please enlighten us with the ibill comments.

Yeah, I am a moron and stickyfingers knows it all... it all makes sense now, I am sure everyone agrees with you too.

Juicy D. Links · 06-16-2007, 01:23 PM

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»Rob Content« · 06-16-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Funny Tmobile advertises on torrents sites. Do you boycott tmobile?

So you are saying that if Coca cola sponsored a child porn movie that TV stations would still carry their ads?

That is what was said, has nothing to do with torrent sites.

It was asked:

Would CBS or NBC attempt to tell Coca Cola or Chevrolet what they can or can not do?

And my answer was if Coca Cola was working to promote child porn NBC and CBS would drop them.

will76 · 06-16-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

As I've said before Sticky reminds me a lot of the ever so popular AlienQ, who we all know was also always right.

They even kind of look the same.

Sticky reminds me of a idiot who has been around for a little over a year, possibly made a couple hundred bucks and wants to try to sound smart and like he knows what he is talking about. Instead of talking from experience he talks out his ass.

The Walrus · 06-16-2007, 01:28 PM

Tmobile does not offer adverts in them... it's a third party affiliate marketing program.

will76 · 06-16-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Would CBS or NBC attempt to tell Coca Cola or Chevrolet what they can or can not do?

If coca cola was giving access to all of NBC's sports events on coke's site without NBC's consent and coke removed all of NBC's advertiser's ads... Do you think NBC would sell coke commericals ?

get your analogies a little more accurate then ask yourself what would they do. Maybe NBC would still sell them commercials, but I think a correct analogy makes one stop and think and not be 100% sure how they would handle it.

Juicy D. Links · 06-16-2007, 01:33 PM

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aico · 06-16-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus

Tmobile does not offer adverts in them... it's a third party affiliate marketing program.

You're arguing with a guy who has no clue what he is talking about, he doesn't actually check to see if what he says is true, he just assumes that since he believes it true, it must be.

I am not even sure he actually knows what a torrent site is, he just keeps talking about CP. He is obsessed with CP actually.

Juicy D. Links · 06-16-2007, 01:43 PM

SmokeyTheBear · 06-16-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Not to be a prick but why should Lensman care what the policies are of companies buying banner spots on GFY?

Brad

Thats a kind of silly question isn't it ? You would have no problem seeing ibill as a sponsor or "legal" child nudity sites ?

But to answer your question simply.. Because he loses more money promoting them than he makes off the gfy ad banners . dayyum..

Because the word is out that playboy wont do anything if sponsors advertise on sites that display its stolen content.

Because his own affiliates cant promote his sites via these methods but i can signup to aff and promote aff using playboy content , and nobody seems to care .

testpie · 06-16-2007, 02:22 PM

Oh oh! I smell drama ahead.

Best break out the drama Dalai Lama:

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Sticky reminds me of a idiot who has been around for a little over a year, possibly made a couple hundred bucks and wants to try to sound smart and like he knows what he is talking about. Instead of talking from experience he talks out his ass.

You know absolutely nothing and that makes me chuckle.

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus

Tmobile does not offer adverts in them... it's a third party affiliate marketing program.

We are getting to the meat of the potatoes here.. So why doesnt Tmobile tell them to stop? Shouldnt they patrol every site that that 3rd party advertises on and make sure its all legal?

scottybuzz · 06-16-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

People that download them for free wouldnt buy a membership or a dvd anyways. Have interaction on your sites that they cant get from a torrent.

you are kidding right?

I was gonna signup to a site once, then checked a forum with all the content and thought fuck it.

Roald · 06-16-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

People that download them for free wouldnt buy a membership or a dvd anyways. Have interaction on your sites that they cant get from a torrent.

lol sometimes its better to just stfu

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

You're arguing with a guy who has no clue what he is talking about, he doesn't actually check to see if what he says is true, he just assumes that since he believes it true, it must be.

I am not even sure he actually knows what a torrent site is, he just keeps talking about CP. He is obsessed with CP actually.

Dude I know how they work, I know how to create torrent seeds, I know way more than you I assure you. Ive been using Torrents since they first became popular back in the TechTv days. Amazing people that think they "know it all" calling me a know it all....

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

you are kidding right?

I was gonna signup to a site once, then checked a forum with all the content and thought fuck it.

You also thought.... Im not 18 yet, so I dont have a credit card so I cant get a membership anyways.....

scottybuzz · 06-16-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You also thought.... Im not 18 yet, so I dont have a credit card so I cant get a membership anyways.....

Thats correct stickyfingerz keep digging yourself a bigger hole

I feel that in a couple of weeks time we will be seeing yet another thread saying its "My 2nd Board Persona has died"

tard.

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Thats correct stickyfingerz keep digging yourself a bigger hole

I feel that in a couple of weeks time we will be seeing yet another thread saying its "My 2nd Board Persona has died"

tard.

Lol ok ScottyBuzz.... I think within a month you'll see something different, but not my persona changing. But its quite likely you were not 18 yet when you decided to "pass" on getting a membership... lmao

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 02:40 PM

I don't want to be a smartass and in fact hope that I'm wrong but I think you
would have a much bigger chance on a reply if you would have called Lens
to ask......or if Lens would be dodging webmaster calles email him about.

Even if he would want to reply I think the reply could be slighty different
depending on who's asking

aico · 06-16-2007, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Thats correct stickyfingerz keep digging yourself a bigger hole

I feel that in a couple of weeks time we will be seeing yet another thread saying its "My 2nd Board Persona has died"

tard.

The scary part is that he probably doesn't even realize how fucking stupid the things he says are.

»Rob Content« · 06-16-2007, 02:48 PM

Why does sticky awesome skip my questions in threads...

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

Why does sticky awesome skip my questions in threads...

You had a question?

Pimpin_J · 06-16-2007, 03:02 PM

SmokeyTheBear · 06-16-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

Read the fucking TOS. Sheesh, how hard can that be - the answer is there?

no it isn't thats why i asked the question.

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Originally Posted by Bama

Lensman "lets" other companies advertise elsewhere?

yes , he can choose to not do business with sponsors who don't follow the same rules his affiliates do.

common sense.. what part are you having a hard time understanding ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

Is this meeting weekly or monthly where anyone who advertises on GFY also has to get Lensman's blessing and approval of where else they are allowed to buy advertising on the entire internet.

you mean the meeting you hallucinated in your head because you thought it was witty ? hmm not sure i don't have those hallucinations.

Personally i wouldnt make any meeting i would just not do business with people who pay others that are distributing my stolen stuff.

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Originally Posted by Bama

Does this carry over into the outside world - meaning that if I buy a burger at Wendy's I can't also buy a burger at McDonalds too?

in the real world you would be arrested if you stole something , happens all the time.. you cant buy a stolen burger in downtown los angeles that is actually in holland..

dayyum thts the difference between the interweb and the real world..

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Originally Posted by Bama

If someone does something you don't approve of - stop promoting them! Any other question should be pretty much limited to "Where's my check".

thats a classic statement .. great biz model.. dont do anything

»Rob Content« · 06-16-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You had a question?

You've skipped 4 so far.

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 03:06 PM

If I have to guess which factors could have led to such decisions then I'd say

1: coz the profits outweigh the negatives....
2: competitive benefits
3: believing that the concept of doing this doesn't have to be as bad for
sites as everyone makes it believe......working together with these sites
keeps you off them as well or realizing that the fact that these sites can
leech of your content is simply because it's easy enough for them to do it.

Another damage these site do depends on what content you have.
Playboy stuff is one of kind and so wellknown that people would still
buy a membership just to belong to playboy community.

AFF for example has live stuff, that's not as easy to rip and not nearly
as much fun to watch it when it's not live.

If you just have hardcore pics/vids and nothing else to draw members to
your sites than just that content then the effect are far worse then sites
that have more than just vids/pics.

Last but not least Playboy is a public traded company. These companies
work completely different than non traded companies. What would result
in a loss for a regular company may result in a huge profit for a traded company.

There's more things than turnover and profit that result to the value of
their stock options.

Often companies sell whatever they sell at the cost of huge losses just to
get enough people buying their stuff which eventually would gain them profit.

When I worked for private.com at some point they thought about giving access
to all their sites and content for free....as the effect on their stock
would be much bigger than they could ever make by selling memberships.

that's what I'm guessing.......of course it's not impossible that I would be
totally wrong.....so basically my guess doesn't help you answer your question
even one bit.......but at least I cared enough to write all this shit down anyway

Yup seems I made again......drunk before midnight.....yay!

I'm in a very strict training regime for the Octoberfest gathering

SmokeyTheBear · 06-16-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

If I have to guess which factors could have led to such decisions then I'd say

1: coz the profits outweigh the negatives....
2: competitive benefits
3: believing that the concept of doing this doesn't have to be as bad for
sites as everyone makes it believe......working together with these sites
keeps you off them as well or realizing that the fact that these sites can
leech of your content is simply because it's easy enough for them to do it.

Another damage these site do depends on what content you have.
Playboy stuff is one of kind and so wellknown that people would still
buy a membership just to belong to playboy community.

AFF for example has live stuff, that's not as easy to rip and not nearly
as much fun to watch it when it's not live.

If you just have hardcore pics/vids and nothing else to draw members to
your sites than just that content then the effect are far worse then sites
that have more than just vids/pics.

Last but not least Playboy is a public traded company. These companies
work completely different than non traded companies. What would result
in a loss for a regular company may result in a huge profit for a traded company.

There's more things than turnover and profit that result to the value of
their stock options.

Often companies sell whatever they sell at the cost of huge losses just to
get enough people buying their stuff which eventually would gain them profit.

When I worked for private.com at some point they thought about giving access to all their sites and content for free....as the effect on their stock
would be much bigger than they could ever make by selling memberships.

that's what I'm guessing.......of course it's not impossible that I would be
totally wrong.....so basically my guess doesn't help you answer your question
even one bit.......but at least I cared enough to write all this shit down anyway

Yup seems I made again......drunk before midnight.....yay!

lol you coulda boiled it down to one word..

PROFIT

the adult industry in general is declining for the first time ever while dating is still on the rise.. the only way i could see this being beneficial is if someone at playboy owns alot of aff

and even then i see no reason why they shouldnt allow their affiliates to promote them in the same places ..

nikki99 · 06-16-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Account terminated

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

lol you coulda boiled it down to one word..

PROFIT

the adult industry in general is declining for the first time ever while dating is still on the rise.. the only way i could see this being beneficial is if someone at playboy owns alot of aff

and even then i see no reason why they shouldnt allow their affiliates to promote them in the same places ..

Did you really have to also rub it in to me that:

A: you already knew all the shit that took me 10 minutes to write
B: you could write down exactly the same in just 3 lines
C: to make me feel stupid

Thanks man.......did I piss you off to deserve this or was I just passing by
accidently at the wrong time?

KimJI · 06-16-2007, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

lol you coulda boiled it down to one word..

PROFIT

the adult industry in general is declining for the first time ever while dating is still on the rise.. the only way i could see this being beneficial is if someone at playboy owns alot of aff

and even then i see no reason why they shouldnt allow their affiliates to promote them in the same places ..

Agree

Dating and cams will take over a lot more over the next few years.

And then something new will come. USB-Fleshlights (or Firewire for the hardcore) You can pay the camchick to controll the fleshlight or let your gay chatlover remotecontroll your buttplug.

woj · 06-16-2007, 03:22 PM

I hope it's not too late for a sig spot :-/

billybathgate · 06-16-2007, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

People that download them for free wouldnt buy a membership or a dvd anyways.

if the free download wasn't available they wouldn't have a choice

tony286 · 06-16-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybathgate

if the free download wasn't available they wouldn't have a choice

Bingo we have winner!

tony286 · 06-16-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Man I wouldnt want to be you,the day your somewhere and Lee Priest spots you. lol

billybathgate · 06-16-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Bingo we have winner!

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybathgate

if the free download wasn't available they wouldn't have a choice

If the site that owned the content didnt give it away for 29.95 or a 5.95 trial they wouldnt of had a choice either.... see what I did there???

billybathgate · 06-16-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

If the site that owned the content didnt give it away for 29.95 or a 5.95 trial they wouldnt of had a choice either

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baddog · 06-16-2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus

No, but NBC or CBS listens to the PEOPLE/PRESS that yap. How many controversial shows, episodes, etc have either been edited or cancelled altogether because of shit like that? Ads get threatened to be pulled or pulled period. Where is Don Imus now?

I am sure you don't expect me to believe that you support this type of censorship.

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

If the site that owned the content didnt give it away for 29.95 or a 5.95 trial they wouldnt of had a choice either.... see what I did there???

if it wasn't because of the intraweb there wouldn't be a problem

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I am sure you don't expect me to believe that you support this type of censorship.

to decide wheter you support or oppose to censorship at least you have to
understand what censorships means

»Rob Content« · 06-16-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I am sure you don't expect me to believe that you support this type of censorship.

I sure you don't expect me to believe that if Coca Cola was affiliated and funded CP/Underage materials that NBC and CBS would care less.

stickyfingerz · 06-16-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VG.Content

I sure you don't expect me to believe that if Coca Cola was affiliated and funded CP/Underage materials that NBC and CBS would care less.

See this is where you are off track. AFF does not in any way fund cp or underage materials. Is that what you think ?

will76 · 06-16-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You know absolutely nothing and that makes me chuckle.

yeap, i know nothing. I've been doing this since 99 and have made more than 95% of the people here. Here comes sticky, starts doing adult in 2006, resells content, and speaks out of his ass on shit he knows nothing about, which is basically everything you comment on.

Sticky, what is your outside the box idea to fight torrent sites???

Your idea to " give away samples" isn't going to cut it. You can't give away samples and expect people to signup when the entire site is being given away for free on the same page as the sample. So tell us, since you make it sound so simple and you try t o make it sound like everyone is stupid for not having figured this out yet, what is the magical out the box idea you have to profit and " wide the wave" of torrent sites.

please share. instead of saying I know nothing why don't you share what you know.

ServerGenius · 06-16-2007, 04:15 PM

bottom line is that torrent sites won't dissapear within the next few months....
so you better adapt to todays reality than cry about how unfair the reality is.

Offering Trial memberships should be reconsidered. Making it harder to rip
the content and yes that's possible...even while the leech has a paid membership. For example displaying your content dynamically which makes it
harder to simply rip it.....ripping flash video for example is possible but the
quality you end up with isn't the same as watching it stream.

Creating other reasons than just pics/vids why people would want to come
to your sites rather than just grabbing some pics/clips.

Interactive elements, member interaction, community environment are a few
examples that come to mind.

Or you could just sit back, cry and pray you can keep your head from going
under before the storm is over

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