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Old 06-20-2007, 11:04 AM   #1
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When will the Fucking StarBuck's fad end?

Frozen foamed milk with Caffé Mocha and caramel poured over ice.

If you don't know the correct terminology you will get "the look".

Try going in and ask for a regular coffee, milk no sugar, they need to call the manager.

I am on the thinking end..so FY2
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:06 AM   #2
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:32 PM   #3
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As a New Yorker living on the West Coast I know ehat you're saying

Just FYI: Regular coffee is an Americano !
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:15 PM   #4
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Starbucks coffee sucks - but it's the best of a bad lot in many places in America.

New York is the ONLY place I have constantly got good coffee when travelling there.

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Probably when the McDonald's fad ends. In other words, I think Starbucks is here to stay.
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:20 PM   #6
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Soon as the proof comes out that it is INFACT Starbucks causing global warming, and its responsible for millions of deaths of Polar bears and penquins!!
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:22 PM   #7
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Here, Here, i can't stand Starbucks
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:52 PM   #8
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dare you to go in and ask for iced tea
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Its not a fad and won't end, but I just like regular coffee. Even when I go there I get a mild blend.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:18 PM   #11
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:30 PM   #12
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Eventually the majority people are going to decide that Starbucks isn't the "cool" place anymore. Always happens
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:34 PM   #13
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Eventually the majority people are going to decide that Starbucks isn't the "cool" place anymore. Always happens
I guess that isn't true . . . GFY'ers would have nowhere to go to bitch about if they closed it.
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:46 PM   #14
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Starbucks coffee averages 56 percent more caffeine than coffee purchased at gas stations or donut places...so, everyone's addicted.
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #15
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Star bucks just hit in our town in the last 5 years. Before that you had to go to the local coffee shop.
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Probably when the McDonald's fad ends. In other words, I think Starbucks is here to stay.
My thoughts exactly.

Starbucks is very easily on pace to be the McDonald's of coffee, if it hasn't already reached that status yet.

There's a shopping center in Burbank, CA that has two Starbucks in it, within the span of a city block.

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My thoughts exactly.

Starbucks is very easily on pace to be the McDonald's of coffee, if it hasn't already reached that status yet.
Well, as I have yet to see two McDonald's across the street from each other or three within 4 blocks of each other, I have a feeling they will easily surpass that status.
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I used to go to a local StarChucks until i discovered what real Coffee tastes like, not that bitter crap that StarFucks spews out. I found a great Gourmet Coffee shop in Mission Beach. Has amazing coffee and the staff consists of cute babes mainly from Brazil. Oh and the Acai bowls are out of this world..
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Well, as I have yet to see two McDonald's across the street from each other or three within 4 blocks of each other, I have a feeling they will easily surpass that status.
Hey Boss...I just don't get it. Perhaps being a New Yorker and Fred the deli guy handing me my cup of Joe the way I like without having to ask comforts me.
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On the rare occasion that I'll enter a Starbucks, I do enjoy ordering a medium or large coffee. The pretentious twat at the counter will inevitably roll his eyes at how uneducated I must be. How much of a wanker do you feel like when you order a small but have to call it a tall? Or calling a medium a grande, or a large a venti?
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Hey Boss...I just don't get it. Perhaps being a New Yorker and Fred the deli guy handing me my cup of Joe the way I like without having to ask comforts me.
Well, my local Starbucks . . . well two of them anyway, are staffed with people that not only know what coffee I want, but how I want my Black Forest Ham sandwich packed.
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On the rare occasion that I'll enter a Starbucks, I do enjoy ordering a medium or large coffee. The pretentious twat at the counter will inevitably roll his eyes at how uneducated I must be. How much of a wanker do you feel like when you order a small but have to call it a tall? Or calling a medium a grande, or a large a venti?
Obviously you go there frequently enough to know the sizes.
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Obviously you go there frequently enough to know the sizes.
You get told once, it's easy to remember. How you can forget that a small is called a tall, I don't know. It's just too damn obnoxious to forget. Grande is italian for big, so that's hardly an issue. And I did actually have to look up what the other size was and found an amusing story along the way.

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This particular Starbucks in question is located across the street from John Wayne Airport, in Orange County, California, in a very busy business/research/industrial area. It is one of the only coffee shops in the immediate area, and is consequently extremely busy between around 7:30 and 10:00 AM.

A typical morning retail exchange for me, during this time, at this particular Starbucks:

"Welcome to Starbucks, how can I help you?"

"I'd like a large dark-roast, please."

"You mean a Venti?"

*grumble*. Now, I've worked retail. It sucks to be messed with. You're just trying to do your job. Your trainer and/or manager tells you to call it a "Venti (TM)". I would normally understand, really I would. I'd play your despotic marketing games, normally, and call it a flying plaid pig if it made a deep, nutty-black steaming cup of the mud of life and awakening appear in front of me sooner. But it will not. And I shall not. And it's Monday morning, and all I want is a large-as-you-have-got cup of raw, hot black coffee. And besides, this is the United States of America, not Italy, and Starbucks started in freakin' Seattle. Why aren't they using an Inuit word for a large cup of coffee? OK, sure, Starbucks may use Italian espresso machines, but a Ferrari owner does not a rally racer make, right? (Call a spade a fucking shovel)

"No, I'd like a large, please.", emphatic emphasis on the "please".

"I'm sorry,", (No, you're not, really, now are you?), "But we have Tall, Grande, and Venti!", extra perkiness. Extra perkiness solves all problems in retail and customer relations. Also, she's apparently had her coffee. I feel like I'm approaching a fickle, angry oracle, and I must be supplicant and be bearing offerings to recieve the wisdom of the ether.

"That's nice. One large dark-roast please, no room for cream or sugar.", (insert potentially lethal Jedi Stare (TM)). Honey, you do still understand the difference between small, medium, and large, don't you? Starbucks can't seriously have a brainwashing program that frighteningly effective, can it? Can it?!)

"We have Tall, Grande...", she stops midsentence, and likely sees the trapped, caged, wild animal stare in my eyes of an IT cubeslave at 7:45 in the godforsaken morning without his precious coffee, yet, "... a-a large you say?"

"Yes, please, a large dark-roast, no room for cream or sugar, please.". Victory! My coffee is presented to me, and I immediately feel much better with it's bitter warmth in my hands, and that I didn't have to call it by some silly Italian word that likely really means something insulting.

Eventually, the more reliable of the staff got used to it, and never questioned it. I'd ask for a large, and they'd give it to me, no questions asked or marketing flim-flammery foisted upon my weary self. It was a good battle, well fought.

I noticed other regulars began calling it a large as well, and this made it all worth it.
More annoying than their snobbish sizing is the sub-par quality of their product and their service.
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Well, as I have yet to see two McDonald's across the street from each other or three within 4 blocks of each other, I have a feeling they will easily surpass that status.
Just last week I noticed a sign in front of the McDonalds by my house advertising frozen coffee drinks and free WiFi. I think that Ronald is getting sneaky.
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I'll take Dunkin Donuts coffee... thank you.. I cant see spending 5 bucks for a cup of coffee.
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Hey Boss...I just don't get it. Perhaps being a New Yorker and Fred the deli guy handing me my cup of Joe the way I like without having to ask comforts me.
When I lived in NYC nothing was better then going to the deli for coffee.You order a regular and it was milk two sugars. Starbucks isnt going anywhere, they open one a week if im correct. Actually what I miss and you probably remember Fidel is when they had clock full of nuts coffee shops.The date nut bread with cream cheese too yummy.
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you cant walk more than 4 blocks in any direction in Manhattan before you come across another starbux...there are even some built across the street from each other.....and they are all packed. starbux has to make majority of its money in manhattan....
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Obviously you go there frequently enough to know the sizes.


Well, if you would just learn the correct terminology then you're good to go. I don't see a problem with learning it. It's like going to McDonalds and saying you want a burger with the patties and 3 buns instead of "bigmac" which sounds funny. Sure you might not learn the term. right away but I don't see what the big deal is. If they call it a venti then order a venti. If they call an XL order an XL.
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I am expecting some sort of medical report soon about the over caffienation of America, with Stabucks cast in the role of drug pusher / major criminal. Already, many of my coffee drinking friends are cutting down or cutting out entirely, dropping the $6-$8 lattes in favor of a good old TH medium double double.

Starbucks is snob coffee, and once you stop trying to impress people, you start to realize that the coffee isn't better than the next 100 places you will go.

As a side note, one of the reasons coffee shops have become more and more popular in north america is that many of today's youths are NOT bar people. Many youths from a muslim background, example, will not drink. As a result, many of their social outings with friends aren't to bars but to coffee shops and "desert restaurants". Many cultures frown on social drinking, as as immigation continues into north america, that sort of cultural barrier turns coffee shops into the new night clubs.

Here in Montreal, many coffee shops are open near 24 hours, have upbeat music playing, etc. I haven't seen a coffee dance bar, but I suspect it isn't far from happening.
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I used to go to a local StarChucks until i discovered what real Coffee tastes like, not that bitter crap that StarFucks spews out. I found a great Gourmet Coffee shop in Mission Beach. Has amazing coffee and the staff consists of cute babes mainly from Brazil. Oh and the Acai bowls are out of this world..
There is nothing better than Acai with honey and graham cracker bits. YUMMY!
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I am expecting some sort of medical report soon about the over caffienation of America, with Stabucks cast in the role of drug pusher / major criminal. Already, many of my coffee drinking friends are cutting down or cutting out entirely, dropping the $6-$8 lattes in favor of a good old TH medium double double.

Starbucks is snob coffee, and once you stop trying to impress people, you start to realize that the coffee isn't better than the next 100 places you will go.

As a side note, one of the reasons coffee shops have become more and more popular in north america is that many of today's youths are NOT bar people. Many youths from a muslim background, example, will not drink. As a result, many of their social outings with friends aren't to bars but to coffee shops and "desert restaurants". Many cultures frown on social drinking, as as immigation continues into north america, that sort of cultural barrier turns coffee shops into the new night clubs.

Here in Montreal, many coffee shops are open near 24 hours, have upbeat music playing, etc. I haven't seen a coffee dance bar, but I suspect it isn't far from happening.
In Vancouver, there's Starbucks literally across the corner from each other. Both are always packed.
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In Vancouver, there's Starbucks literally across the corner from each other. Both are always packed.
Yup, and go look at the mix of people in there... the more racially diverse the city, the more likely the coffee shop world is strong.
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try 5+ per DAY! crazy
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they discontinued my syrup and now i can't get mt drink anymore, back to the local coffeeshop where hippies and wi-fi have meet, and my coffee comes with a plastic monkey in the whipped cream, makes me smile all day
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Just stop going there for your coffee! Fad will end!
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I have never seen a Starbucks with $5 coffee, and I have been to many, all over the country.

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I am expecting some sort of medical report soon about the over caffienation of America, with Stabucks cast in the role of drug pusher / major criminal. Already, many of my coffee drinking friends are cutting down or cutting out entirely, dropping the $6-$8 lattes in favor of a good old TH medium double double.
I think you could be correct. These soccer moms that bring their kids in and get them an iced frap are not very responsible . . . . however, where are you seeing $6-8 lattes?

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To each their own, but I believe Starbucks overroasts their beans.
I think that is common knowledge . . .
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Well, if you would just learn the correct terminology then you're good to go. I don't see a problem with learning it. It's like going to McDonalds and saying you want a burger with the patties and 3 buns instead of "bigmac" which sounds funny. Sure you might not learn the term. right away but I don't see what the big deal is. If they call it a venti then order a venti. If they call an XL order an XL.
I used to enjoy ordering whoppers at McD's when i was a teenager.
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