TTiger

i've a new a killer idea and concept but just don't how to script it and use
this ideas, but how can i talk about it without being ripped off ?

for sure its a seller and could take over the adult world! a new way to convert traffic into sales!

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emjay

Get whoever you speak to about it to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) beforehand

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TTiger

in fact ive some innovative ideas that could transfert your traffic into gold !

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TTiger

in the past ive tell so many buisiness thing that someone else start and doing big money at my place

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p1mpdogg

an idea is only as good as what you do WITH the idea.

have some faith. im a good listener and love to partner up on things because i hate working, I just back things with green stuff called cashola

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darling2

I agree with emjay. get those NDAs signed in multiple copies. The best thing would be to hire a coder for the script as an employee in-house, so you can keep the idea secret.

TTiger

so who can recommend me a good scripter?

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bl4h

if its so valuable hire a real company, not any ghetto scripter from this neck of the woods

commonsense

TTiger

any advice are very welcome;-)

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edgeprod

Just don't post anywhere Russians read.

BucksMania

ill keep your secret for you

DBS.US

Non-disclosure agreements are worthless

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TTiger

and chinese....

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pornask

LOL, this is so true though :D

TTiger

Non-disclosure agreements where do i get this? lawyer?
can i do one myself?

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pornask

I'll share mine with you, give me a sec ;)

pornask

BETA CUSTOMER NON- DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT

The parties hereto desire to enter and establish a business relationship.
Whereas, ________________ (Hereinafter referred to as "Webmaster") has considerable expertise and influential connections in the computer, adult Internet and Webmaster industries; and _________________________
Whereas, it is the intention of the parties (signatories to the agreement below) that any introductions, information and materials collectively referred to as "Information", given by Webmaster to
(hereinafter referred to as "Beta Customer") or Beta Customer's End-users not be used for any purpose that is not in the best interest of Webmaster. Therefore any information provided to the Beta Customer/End-user and any other third party shall not be disclosed to any other parties without the prior written approval of Webmaster.
During discussions, it may be necessary and desirable for Beta Customer and Webmaster to disclose or make available to each other some of their respective proprietary and confidential information which information shall be clearly characterized in writing to be confidential (individually and collectively referred to herein as "Information"), including but not limited to specifications for hardware, software, coding, html code, partnership programs and/or traffic programs, customer list, maintenance services and information about marketing plans and future products.

NOW THEREFORE, in consideration of each party's providing this information to the other, Beta Customer and Webmaster hereby agree as follows:
1) Each party acknowledges and agrees that title to all rights and interest to the Information wherever resident and on whatever media, shall remain with the disclosing party.
2) Each party agrees that it shall maintain the Information in strict confidence, shall not communicate, disclose, nor make available all or any part of the Information to any person or entity, and shall use its best efforts to prevent inadvertent disclosure of all or any part of the Information to any third party.
3) Each party agrees that it will not exploit, commercially or otherwise, appropriate for its own use, or reproduce in any form all or part of the information unless specifically authorized by the other in writing. This obligation to maintain the Information in strict confidence includes the obligation to impose upon the receiving parties, employees and agents the same requirement of confidentiality and non-disclosure as required herein, both during the course of their employment and thereafter.

4) Each party agrees not to alter or remove any copyright, proprietary rights notice, or identification, which indicates the disclosing party's ownership, from any part of the Information.
5) Each party recognizes that the disclosure or alteration of the Information may give rise to irreparable injury to the disclosing party, inadequately compensable in damages and that, accordingly, the disclosing party may seek and obtain injunctive relief against the breach or threatened breach of the confidentiality, in addition to any other legal remedies which may be available.
6) The Beta Customer agrees that money damages would not be a sufficient remedy for any breach of this Agreement and that Webmaster shall be entitled to seek injunctive or other equitable relief to remedy or prevent any breach or threatened breach of this Agreement by the Beta Customer or persons under the Beta Customer's direction or control (including but not limited to employees). Such remedy shall not be the exclusive remedy for any breach of this Agreement, but shall be in addition to all other rights and remedies available at law or in equity. It is agreed that this Agreement may be enforced in the jurisdictions in which each party has its principal office, as well as any jurisdiction in which a threatened or actual breach occurs. This Agreement shall be governed and construed according to the laws of the Province of Alberta.

REMEDIES
Any controversies or claims arising out of, or relating to, this Agreement, or the making, performance, or interpretation thereof, shall be settled by arbitration in Province of Alberta, in accordance with the rules of the Canadian Arbitration Association then existing, and judgment on the arbitration award may be entered in any court having jurisdiction over the subject matter of the controversy.

ATTORNEYS' FEES AND COSTS
If any action at law or in equity is necessary to enforce or interpret the terms of this Agreement, the prevailing party shall be entitled to reasonable attorneys' fees, costs, interest, and necessary disbursements in addition to any other relief to which he/she may be entitled.
Beta Customer shall defend, hold harmless and indemnify Webmaster for any liability, loss, claim, or damage of any kind, including attorneys' fees incurred by Webmaster as a result of any disclosure or use of any Information in violation of the provisions of this agreement. This indemnification and the obligation of confidentiality created by this agreement shall survive termination of this agreement.

PARTIAL VALIDITY
If any provision of this Agreement is held by a court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, void, or unenforceable, the remaining provisions shall nevertheless continue in full force without being impaired or invalidated in any matter.

LAW GOVERNING AGREEMENT
This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Province of Alberta.

MODIFICATION OR WAIVER
This Agreement is not to be amended, except after the date hereof by an instrument in writing signed by all of the parties, and no amendment, modification, termination, or waiver shall be binding unless in writing and signed by the party against whom the amendment, modification, termination, or waiver is sought to be enforced. No waiver of any provisions of this Agreement shall be deemed, or shall constitute, a waiver of any other provisions, whether or not similar, nor shall any waiver constitute a continuing waiver.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have executed and accepted this Agreement:


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These are lines for signatures. Trouble is - NDA is a good thing, however most people will think you're a freak when you ask them to sign it and you will not hear form them again. At least that was my experience. Then first time I have disclosed what was in my head, I teamed up with the guy and it's been going good. So it's a tough call. But this is the NDA I was planning to use ;)

edgeprod

If you want to laugh your ASS off, check this out:

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/690834-sponsors-feedback-beta-tester-rss-solution-post12584264.html

It's Feed Pushers, something we came up with a few years back. After servicing a very limited client-base with it, we decided to open it up to a larger distribution, and add a bunch of features. Almost half a year after I posted it, I see this:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=732473

ROFL -- sound familiar? It's SO similar, it even uses the same FORMAT to input entries.

Granted, no "serious" sponsor would use his WordPress plug-in (rofl) to run their program, but still. An obvious complete rip-off.

So, I call him on it, and he comes into MY thread, from six MONTHS ago, and implies my OUR product is similar to HIS! Bah haha.

Ok, but it gets better.

So, I decide to give away the software itself for free, and price it like a service (end-to-end, we do everything .. write the posts, choose the pictures, it's COMPLETELY hands-off for the sponsor). So, he's like "Oh, no, MINE is a service -- I install it!") .. Jace was laughing his ass off as he tried to explain to the guy that installing a PRODUCT doesn't make it a service, but the Russian guy's English wasn't good enough to understand.

So, the Russian thief goes off on this HUGE temper tantrum, bumping old threads, crying about all this crap, making up stuff about Xbiz (where I am a Moderator, and write for the magazine Xbiz World). The best part is no one even replied, but ICQ lit up with people pasting the link and laughing. It was hilarious, because he even went to other BOARDS and shed tears there, TOO! He ended up having his threads closed by another Moderator, which he then bitched about THAT, saying it was somehow an abuse of the other Mod's power. I was thinking I should send him some Kleenex.



So, I was like "Yup, just another Russian!"

In the meantime, a bunch of major programs came to us for the launch, and he got Never-Heard-of-Us-Cash and No-One-Cares-Because-We-Have-One-Affiliate-Bucks as "customers" for his product.

This is my 4,999th post. My 5,000th will be about the "launch" sponsors for Feed Pushers.

In any event, I hope it gave you a chuckle -- it's SO true what they say, hehe.

Drake

You can't protect it 100%, but there are enough quality dedicated programming companies out there that are only interested in programming; not marketing or operating websites of their own. Get one of them to put it together for you.

Jace

haha @ edgeprod

love ya man

Peace

do not tell no one just do it bro

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CaptainHowdy

You just don't !!

TTiger

im an ideas, patern and concept guys... needing some push to help those ideas to come out...

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pornask

OMG... that's too damn funny. Talk about Russians and stealing ideas within the same thread :D Good read, edgeprod

Zester

what makes you say that ? aren't there some laws of penalties / fines in case of NDA breach ?

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TTiger

so what's your advice?

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TTiger

in fact gimme 100k $ and ill make multiple millions $

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