Offshore Adult Sites Reaping Huge Profits in China - GoFuckYourself.com

DVTimes · 06-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Offshore Adult Sites Reaping Huge Profits in China

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=23726

BEIJING ? Officials here have announced that Chinese-language offshore adult sites are making a huge profit, especially in comparison to local sites that do not offer variety of content or video.
Director of the China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center (CIIRC) Li Jiaming said it would not be easy to shut down overseas sites. It is estimated that more than 60 percent of the adult Internet sites being viewed in China are hosted overseas and beyond the range of government controls. Though the site operators are often located in China, they are not easy to track down.

With more than 450,000 complaints about potentially illegal websites received by the CIIRC, half of those are related to pornography. The CIIRC has persuaded more than 4,000 domestic websites to ban links to the overseas porn sites, Li told local media.

Chinese Internet users pay to access the porn sites using Chinese online prepayment services similar to PayPal. The government is attempting to block sources of income to online content providers by asking China's online payment-system operators to review sales account applications more carefully.

Internet pornography is illegal in China and the announcement comes as part of an ongoing campaign by China?s Ministry of Public Security to censor Internet usage. Launched in April, the campaign uses elaborate filters and human monitoring to censor and control access to websites that the government deems sensitive or inappropriate.

It also comes on the heels of a Reuters article on China?s recent move to block access to the popular photo-hosting site Flickr.com after photos from the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre were found posted there.

emjay · 06-22-2007, 04:05 AM

With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term.

The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn.

When it comes to online, your entire business model will need to be adjusted to accommodate the unique characteristics of this market.

For starters, porn is technically illegal in China. The Chinese authorities do their best to censor the internet, a task which can never be realised due to its organic growth. To check if you have been blocked, go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org ? if so, Chinese surfers are taken to a decidedly unsexy page of the ?Ministry of Fisheries and Agriculture?.

Despite a growing Internet-savvy middle class, online purchases in China have been slow to take off with traditional payment systems. Credit card-based payment systems that succeeded in North America and Europe have proven ineffective in China, where credit card usage remains low. Even more important than credit card penetration rates, is the issue of trust between buyers and sellers in a business environment where personal relationships and cash-based transactions have served as the traditional means of securing and settling a deal.

Furthermore, wages in China are low. A white collar Manager can expect to earn about $500 a month. Thus, selling a $29.90 monthly credit card subscription to him is futile on two counts : It is very unlikely he has one and even if he did, the subscription would represent an enormous proportion of his overall disposable income.

Clearly, cash is not suitable for web transactions. However, there is one payment device that practically all Chinese have access to ? the phone. Indeed, cellphone penetration in China is beginning to rival those of more developed markets.

Since the payouts available via such billing are less, you simply give them less time. After all, a monthly subscription usually equates to about a cost of about a dollar a day. So give them (say) 24 hours access if they pay you this way.

Another important consideration is that of language. Only about a quarter of Chinese learn English at high school, so it is imperative that you communicate with your new prospective clients in a language they understand ? theirs!

Your phone processor should be able to provide you with geo-ip tools that will enable you to easily accomplish this. If not, you should consider switching to one that does.

Then, and only then, can you start to make money ?made in China?

Ace_luffy · 06-22-2007, 04:16 AM

wow... even china interested in porn business...

GT-Omar · 06-22-2007, 05:36 AM

If your intrestde in localizing your sites. You owe it to your self to check out www.GloballyTranslated.com

Klen · 06-22-2007, 09:13 AM

China soon will be maybe even better market then usa since there are 2 billion potencial customers.

emjay · 06-22-2007, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

China soon will be maybe even better market then usa since there are 2 billion potencial customers.

I thought it was 1.3 Billion (1,300,000,000). Mind you, if you add up all the "expat" Chinese living overseas it could be approaching that number...

Even here in Tenerife, every town seems to have a chinese restaurant!

jonesonyou · 06-22-2007, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

China soon will be maybe even better market then usa since there are 2 billion potencial customers.

interesting, thought.

global-girl · 06-24-2007, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace_luffy

wow... even china interested in porn business...

They seem to have got the hang of capitalism...

Turboface · 06-24-2007, 01:00 AM

Wow, China likes sex. Who knew?

Mr. Cool Ice · 06-24-2007, 02:28 AM

PLEASE all of you rush and give away tons of free porn in China so they don't have to pay for it, much like how you ruined the American and European markets.

Hurry!!!!

You could be the first one to fuck it up if you act right now!!!

OR... give them torrents!!!!

Fuck it, even better... YOU COULD BE THE ZANGO OF CHINA!!!!

DO IT NOW BEFORE LARS DOES!!!!

ZoneMaster · 06-24-2007, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice

PLEASE all of you rush and give away tons of free porn in China so they don't have to pay for it, much like how you ruined the American and European markets.

How true!!!

But don't worry - it means having sites in the Chinese language/s - so fat chance of that with the mental retardation level here.

Seriously - you have a point re ruining the market - especially when the dollar earning capacity is worth nothing against other currencies. So... basically we are giving away free porn and earning crap revenues around 40% lower because of currency levels - what's the point?? Time to charge Euros...

Xplicit · 06-24-2007, 02:57 AM

How do they pay? Visa/Mastercard??

NTM · 06-24-2007, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

How do they pay? Visa/Mastercard??

Quote:

Chinese Internet users pay to access the porn sites using Chinese online prepayment services similar to PayPal. The government is attempting to block sources of income to online content providers by asking China's online payment-system operators to review sales account applications more carefully.

emjay · 06-24-2007, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

How do they pay? Visa/Mastercard??

This article was written in 2005

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/...rg/sxpesek.php

"After generations of adhering to the Confucian aversion to debt, China is warming up to plastic. While data is hard to come by, the chief executive of American Express, Kenneth Chenault, said in December that credit card penetration in China was about 3 percent, and poised to surge."

timberlands · 06-24-2007, 06:01 AM

lol 3%........

Project-Shadow · 06-24-2007, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timberlands

lol 3%........

Yeah.. 3% of china = 40million people.
So 40 million in 2005, mid 2007 now.

Dirty Dane · 06-24-2007, 06:42 AM

with 1.3 billion ppl there must be some horny dudes there.

HomerSimpson · 06-24-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

China soon will be maybe even better market then usa since there are 2 billion potencial customers.

Yes....

BUT....

They don't have the money so you can't charge memberships $29 than $19 or even $9 in order to sell. The things can get even worse since they have hi-speed internet so they will burn the shit load of bandwidth for those $9 you chage them, so your profits wold be much less than with US market... So my point is: QUALITY of customer is more important (in this case) than QUANTITY.

emjay · 06-25-2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

Yes....

BUT....

They don't have the money so you can't charge memberships $29 than $19 or even $9 in order to sell. The things can get even worse since they have hi-speed internet so they will burn the shit load of bandwidth for those $9 you chage them, so your profits wold be much less than with US market... So my point is: QUALITY of customer is more important (in this case) than QUANTITY.

and if you send them to the hosted template http://www.webpinaccess.com/?layout=blank (which they will see in Chinese), the only surfers eating your bandwidth will be paying ones...

06-21-2007, 03:34 PM	#1
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	Offshore Adult Sites Reaping Huge Profits in China Offshore Adult Sites Reaping Huge Profits in China http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=23726 BEIJING ? Officials here have announced that Chinese-language offshore adult sites are making a huge profit, especially in comparison to local sites that do not offer variety of content or video. Director of the China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center (CIIRC) Li Jiaming said it would not be easy to shut down overseas sites. It is estimated that more than 60 percent of the adult Internet sites being viewed in China are hosted overseas and beyond the range of government controls. Though the site operators are often located in China, they are not easy to track down. With more than 450,000 complaints about potentially illegal websites received by the CIIRC, half of those are related to pornography. The CIIRC has persuaded more than 4,000 domestic websites to ban links to the overseas porn sites, Li told local media. Chinese Internet users pay to access the porn sites using Chinese online prepayment services similar to PayPal. The government is attempting to block sources of income to online content providers by asking China's online payment-system operators to review sales account applications more carefully. Internet pornography is illegal in China and the announcement comes as part of an ongoing campaign by China?s Ministry of Public Security to censor Internet usage. Launched in April, the campaign uses elaborate filters and human monitoring to censor and control access to websites that the government deems sensitive or inappropriate. It also comes on the heels of a Reuters article on China?s recent move to block access to the popular photo-hosting site Flickr.com after photos from the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre were found posted there. __________________ The Affiliate Program

06-22-2007, 04:05 AM	#2
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term. The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn. When it comes to online, your entire business model will need to be adjusted to accommodate the unique characteristics of this market. For starters, porn is technically illegal in China. The Chinese authorities do their best to censor the internet, a task which can never be realised due to its organic growth. To check if you have been blocked, go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org ? if so, Chinese surfers are taken to a decidedly unsexy page of the ?Ministry of Fisheries and Agriculture?. Despite a growing Internet-savvy middle class, online purchases in China have been slow to take off with traditional payment systems. Credit card-based payment systems that succeeded in North America and Europe have proven ineffective in China, where credit card usage remains low. Even more important than credit card penetration rates, is the issue of trust between buyers and sellers in a business environment where personal relationships and cash-based transactions have served as the traditional means of securing and settling a deal. Furthermore, wages in China are low. A white collar Manager can expect to earn about $500 a month. Thus, selling a $29.90 monthly credit card subscription to him is futile on two counts : It is very unlikely he has one and even if he did, the subscription would represent an enormous proportion of his overall disposable income. Clearly, cash is not suitable for web transactions. However, there is one payment device that practically all Chinese have access to ? the phone. Indeed, cellphone penetration in China is beginning to rival those of more developed markets. Since the payouts available via such billing are less, you simply give them less time. After all, a monthly subscription usually equates to about a cost of about a dollar a day. So give them (say) 24 hours access if they pay you this way. Another important consideration is that of language. Only about a quarter of Chinese learn English at high school, so it is imperative that you communicate with your new prospective clients in a language they understand ? theirs! Your phone processor should be able to provide you with geo-ip tools that will enable you to easily accomplish this. If not, you should consider switching to one that does. Then, and only then, can you start to make money ?made in China? __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

06-22-2007, 04:16 AM	#3
Ace_luffy www.creationcrew.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM Posts: 12,179	wow... even china interested in porn business... __________________ ++ Adult and Mainstream Websites Designs \| 10 banners for only $50 \| html5 Banners ++ email : [email protected] Telegram : https://t.me/creationcrew \| HTML5/Responsive Site - Div/CSS - ElevatedX - NATs - Wordpress

06-22-2007, 05:36 AM	#4
GT-Omar DM at Performive.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, G.A. Posts: 2,968	If your intrestde in localizing your sites. You owe it to your self to check out www.GloballyTranslated.com __________________ Email me Skype me

06-24-2007, 01:00 AM	#9
Turboface Back in Black Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,976	Wow, China likes sex. Who knew? __________________ Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

06-22-2007, 09:13 AM	#5
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	China soon will be maybe even better market then usa since there are 2 billion potencial customers.

06-24-2007, 02:28 AM	#10
Mr. Cool Ice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289	PLEASE all of you rush and give away tons of free porn in China so they don't have to pay for it, much like how you ruined the American and European markets. Hurry!!!! You could be the first one to fuck it up if you act right now!!! OR... give them torrents!!!! Fuck it, even better... YOU COULD BE THE ZANGO OF CHINA!!!! DO IT NOW BEFORE LARS DOES!!!! __________________ One Love NUR COOL UND GEIL

06-24-2007, 02:57 AM	#12
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	How do they pay? Visa/Mastercard??

06-24-2007, 06:01 AM	#15
timberlands Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 504	lol 3%........

06-24-2007, 06:42 AM	#17
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	with 1.3 billion ppl there must be some horny dudes there.