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Old 07-02-2007, 10:10 AM   #1
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Google vs. Sicko

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For a while this weekend, it looked like Google had chosen to insert itself in the middle of the national debate over healthcare and take on controversial filmmaker Michael Moore.


In an official corporate blog, a Google employee criticized Mr. Moore?s movie, Sicko, as one-sided: ?Moore?s film portrays the industry as money and marketing driven, and fails to show healthcare?s interest in patient well-being and care,? wrote Lauren Turner, a Health Account Planner at Google.

Ms. Turner went on to suggest that Google could help much-maligned health care companies to ?Get the Facts? out. How? By buying ads on Google, of course.

By Sunday, after her post raised some eyebrows in the blogosphere, Ms. Turner clarified that the opinion about Sicko was hers, not Google?s. ?Some readers thought the opinion I expressed about the movie Sicko was actually Google?s opinion,? she wrote. ?It?s easy to understand why it might have seemed that way, because after all, this is a corporate blog. So that was my mistake ? I understand why it caused some confusion.?

A Google spokesman told me much the same.

But Ms. Turner also said that she stood by her earlier comments that Google stood ready to help anyone, whether the healthcare industry or Mr. Moore?s himself: ?Whether the healthcare industry wants to rebut charges in Mr. Moore?s movie, or whether Mr. Moore wants to challenge the healthcare industry, advertising is a very democratic and effective way to participate in a public dialogue,? she wrote.

That said, it?s not clear that Mr. Moore needs to spend money on Google to get his message out.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/0...michael-moore/

Hmm, I wonder about things like this now..."corporate blogs" and any liability with what the writer's are stating as a matter of their personal opinion...it might also be a way for a company to kind of put something out there that IS their opinion and then brush it off as that writer's opinion...
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:25 AM   #2
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?Whether the healthcare industry wants to rebut charges in Mr. Moore?s movie, or whether Mr. Moore wants to challenge the healthcare industry, advertising is a very democratic and effective way to participate in a public dialogue,? she wrote.
What an idiotic statement. Advertising costs money, so in advertising, only those with money get to voice their opinion. Last I checked, democracy wasn't about "one vote per dollar".
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:57 AM   #3
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I guess Google is now coming to GFY for their marketing techniques...LOL
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:07 AM   #4
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I guess Google is now coming to GFY for their marketing techniques...LOL
yup, but this gal seems like a pretty effective marketing rep...
"want to get your voice heard? Buy some ad space with us"
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Moore should go after google for hosting copies of sicko. It would be fun if he went after companies like google who think they are above the law.
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What an idiotic statement. Advertising costs money, so in advertising, only those with money get to voice their opinion. Last I checked, democracy wasn't about "one vote per dollar".
Maybe you should have a look around, because that's exactly what democracy is these days.
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Maybe you should have a look around, because that's exactly what democracy is these days.
True. That is to say, it is what happens in contemporary capitalist societies that consider themselves to be democratic.

However, just like widespread corruption in the legal system would not make corruption just, the fact that contemporary democracy most often turns out this way, does not make this aspect of the system itself democratic.

This woman is confusing the flaws of democracy for the essence of democracy. Which is especially painful to notice considering that she works for Google, a search engine that has tried to use a fairly democratic system (pagerank) to determine search results.
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True. That is to say, it is what happens in contemporary capitalist societies that consider themselves to be democratic.

However, just like widespread corruption in the legal system would not make corruption just, the fact that contemporary democracy most often turns out this way, does not make this aspect of the system itself democratic.

This woman is confusing the flaws of democracy for the essence of democracy. Which is especially painful to notice considering that she works for Google, a search engine that has tried to use a fairly democratic system (pagerank) to determine search results.
Actually, she probably just wants to make a buck ;)
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