Pat Tillman Likely To Have Been Murdered by Fellow Soldiers - GoFuckYourself.com

pocketkangaroo · 07-27-2007, 03:35 PM

The more this story evolves, the crazier it gets.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3958728.html

Shows how much respect our government has for their soldiers.

SykkBoy · 07-27-2007, 03:39 PM

Yeah, the original story was always a little fishy

Brother Bilo · 07-27-2007, 03:42 PM

I doubt he was murdered. I have talked with guys who were in his unit and were there that day and they all described it the same way. He was advancing on a position and a guy was just shooting at the target. Tillman stood up to advance right in the dudes line of fire and he didn't stop. It was an accident.

pocketkangaroo · 07-27-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

I doubt he was murdered. I have talked with guys who were in his unit and were there that day and they all described it the same way. He was advancing on a position and a guy was just shooting at the target. Tillman stood up to advance right in the dudes line of fire and he didn't stop. It was an accident.

I'm just going on what the evidence shows. Considering the story has changed so much, I'm not sure we'll ever know what really happened.

directfiesta · 07-27-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

I doubt he was murdered. I have talked with guys who were in his unit and were there that day and they all described it the same way. He was advancing on a position and a guy was just shooting at the target. Tillman stood up to advance right in the dudes line of fire and he didn't stop. It was an accident.

did you know that an upgraded version was out ...???

You didn't even read it, right ?

GreyWolf · 07-27-2007, 03:59 PM

Who knows what may or may not have happened?

This is a typical criminal investigation scenario.... Statements may conflict and sometimes there can be confusion (especially on a "war front"), but - it's obvious someone or some people are lying. For what motivation/purpose??

The prime evidence (not verbal or opinions) is going to be forensic. If this ties in with the statements, or it's a possibility it could - fine. If not, there are some further "chats" needed till someone changes their story. Time will tell...

bushwacker · 07-27-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

I doubt he was murdered. I have talked with guys who were in his unit and were there that day and they all described it the same way. He was advancing on a position and a guy was just shooting at the target. Tillman stood up to advance right in the dudes line of fire and he didn't stop. It was an accident.

sure you have.

Brother Bilo · 07-27-2007, 04:05 PM

I worked at a shooting range in Mesa, and I did speak with 3 different guys from his unit on 3 seperate occasions. I don't need to lie to impress anyone here, I could care less. Believe what you want, but I've heard it fromt he source.

devilspost · 07-27-2007, 04:06 PM

On the Nightly News tonight Brian Williams reported on a Medical Examiner's Report showing Tillman had a cluster of three gun shot wounds to his forehead in a 2 in diameter. IMPOSSIBLE to have such close clustering at the distances reported by the troops involved. Said he was ignored.

Matt 26z · 07-27-2007, 04:06 PM

I loved the governments original story.... That Tillman ran unafraid straight into battle to fight for our freedom and our hero was killed by the enemy.

Just goes to show you that Bush & Co will lie about anything to keep war morale high.

Scootermuze · 07-27-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I loved the governments original story.... That Tillman ran unafraid straight into battle to fight for our freedom and our hero was killed by the enemy.

Just goes to show you that Bush & Co will lie about anything to keep war morale high.

Kind of the same way they tried to play it up with Jessica Lynch, til she said that wasn't the way it happened....

Brother Bilo · 07-27-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Kind of the same way they tried to play it up with Jessica Lynch, til she said that wasn't the way it happened....

Ya, the wind died down from that story as soon as everyone found out that her crew died because she wrecked their hummer into a parked truck.

GreyWolf · 07-27-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I loved the governments original story.... That Tillman ran unafraid straight into battle to fight for our freedom and our hero was killed by the enemy.

Just goes to show you that Bush & Co will lie about anything to keep war morale high.

Who knows, but that may have been the start of deception - followed by a series of lies to cover up and, in the process, confuse the issue.

That story may just have been at "face value" - ie another pathetic propaganda story and, only a gutty feeling, it was, and no more than you could expect and not exactly criminal.

It's also hard to get actual "facts" from the press - this is also open to warping and distortion - tho often unintentional. But... witnesses know the facts and forensic data has weight. The only element needed is "clean" investigators. Even if there is no criminal activity, it would be reasonable to give Mr Tillman's family closure.

directfiesta · 07-27-2007, 05:27 PM

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* In his last words moments before he was killed, Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to shut up and stop ?sniveling.?

* Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

* The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman?s death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn?t recall details of his actions.

* No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene ? no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.

when will all those lies stop ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19984732/

.. and when will americans stop believing these liars in the WH ????

GreyWolf · 07-27-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

when will all those lies stop ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19984732/

.. and when will americans stop believing these liars in the WH ????

This is the problem with having "clean investigators" - there are too many people with agenda's hovering around what may be a crime investigation.

It's hard to imagine how any investigation team would be assembled under these circumstances, what their brief would be, who they would report to, what existing data they would have access to etc -when everything is shrouded in politics and ulterior motives from the US military thru the Pentagon to the Whitehouse.

If that is not a web of total corruption - nothing is *lol*

sortie · 07-27-2007, 06:12 PM

Probably just stupid friendly fire, but since he's well liked and people are unhappy that he died, somebody needs to get blamed.

07-27-2007, 03:35 PM	#1
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Pat Tillman Likely To Have Been Murdered by Fellow Soldiers The more this story evolves, the crazier it gets. http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3958728.html Shows how much respect our government has for their soldiers.

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Brother Bilo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: I live in cage Posts: 4,193	I doubt he was murdered. I have talked with guys who were in his unit and were there that day and they all described it the same way. He was advancing on a position and a guy was just shooting at the target. Tillman stood up to advance right in the dudes line of fire and he didn't stop. It was an accident. __________________

07-27-2007, 04:05 PM	#8
Brother Bilo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: I live in cage Posts: 4,193	I worked at a shooting range in Mesa, and I did speak with 3 different guys from his unit on 3 seperate occasions. I don't need to lie to impress anyone here, I could care less. Believe what you want, but I've heard it fromt he source. __________________

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devilspost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampa yomebe -at- hotmail Posts: 3,980	On the Nightly News tonight Brian Williams reported on a Medical Examiner's Report showing Tillman had a cluster of three gun shot wounds to his forehead in a 2 in diameter. IMPOSSIBLE to have such close clustering at the distances reported by the troops involved. Said he was ignored. __________________ Brothels and Escorts Worldwide.

07-27-2007, 03:59 PM	#6
GreyWolf So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,036	Who knows what may or may not have happened? This is a typical criminal investigation scenario.... Statements may conflict and sometimes there can be confusion (especially on a "war front"), but - it's obvious someone or some people are lying. For what motivation/purpose?? The prime evidence (not verbal or opinions) is going to be forensic. If this ties in with the statements, or it's a possibility it could - fine. If not, there are some further "chats" needed till someone changes their story. Time will tell...

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I loved the governments original story.... That Tillman ran unafraid straight into battle to fight for our freedom and our hero was killed by the enemy. Just goes to show you that Bush & Co will lie about anything to keep war morale high.

07-27-2007, 06:12 PM	#16
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Probably just stupid friendly fire, but since he's well liked and people are unhappy that he died, somebody needs to get blamed. __________________