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NTM · 07-30-2007, 11:20 AM

someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?

I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

Humpy Leftnut · 07-30-2007, 11:22 AM

Why are you keeping it online?

NTM · 07-30-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Why are you keeping it online?

keeping what online?

Humpy Leftnut · 07-30-2007, 11:23 AM

Oh it's not posted on your server, they just posted a link?

dissipate · 07-30-2007, 11:25 AM

report it, its disgusting.

NTM · 07-30-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Oh it's not posted on your server, they just posted a link?

yes, they spammed my blog comments with it

it looks wrong, but im not sure if it's actually illegal

should i report it anyway? if so, where?

jonesonyou · 07-30-2007, 11:27 AM

yess. it is.

Flynn · 07-30-2007, 11:30 AM

Yeah, that's not right.

Ice · 07-30-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NTM

Should i report it somewhere?

http://asacp.org/page.php

xxxRumor · 07-30-2007, 11:35 AM

Thats fucked up, period

Scott McD · 07-30-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NTM

I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

It sure doesn't look right. Fucked up !!

NTM · 07-30-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ice

http://asacp.org/page.php

Yes, i already thought of it. Is it CP though? They are fully clothed... could be close friends photos or something.

Humpy Leftnut · 07-30-2007, 11:38 AM

Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

Jim_Gunn · 07-30-2007, 12:08 PM

How do you know that they are twelve?

MaDalton · 07-30-2007, 12:10 PM

i don't see why that would be illegal on a private level - if someone tries to make money with it it could be different

Libertine · 07-30-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM

someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?

I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

Yuk. I googled it

The pics don't look illegal, but since it says "part 1", I'm pretty sure it's part of a series that will make a turn for the worse. Definitely stuff that should be reported.

M0nk · 07-30-2007, 12:22 PM

for them ..it is!

NTM · 07-30-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

How do you know that they are twelve?

thats what the spam text said

Mr Steele · 07-30-2007, 01:33 PM

If you really have to ask about the legal status of a pic, is it really worth finding out for sure? Especially this type of pic

Calvinguy · 07-30-2007, 01:48 PM

My wife just kissed our 6 months old baby... should I report her?

Young · 07-30-2007, 01:52 PM

12 year olds french kissing, pictures of your daughters friends....some things should just be kept off a board like this.

Seriously...

Bourd · 07-30-2007, 01:59 PM

If you're not sure if it's illegal or not, just report it... If it says "part 1", it may lead to cp in the next set... who knows. You should report it IMO.

sniperwolf · 07-30-2007, 02:06 PM

report it! they're minors...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 07-30-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

there's enough documented cases that pop up in the news to lead me towards saying yes they could be charged...

geeknik · 07-30-2007, 02:36 PM

Kissing is not sexually explicit. Nor is it obscene, and considering they seem to be fully clothed, it's not pornographic.

NTM · 07-30-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by geeknik

Kissing is not sexually explicit. Nor is it obscene, and considering they seem to be fully clothed, it's not pornographic.

Thats kinda what i've been thinking. I mean, they could be family photos or something..

dv2 · 07-30-2007, 02:52 PM

I assume your blog is adult. So that pretty much makes this a bad location
for these pics to be linked from.

Aquarius · 07-30-2007, 02:53 PM

I'd report that shit.

geeknik · 07-30-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NTM

Thats kinda what i've been thinking. I mean, they could be family photos or something..

Haha, I don't know about that. I'm not supporting it, nor do I like looking at 12 yr old girls, but I don't think it's porn.

dv2 · 07-30-2007, 03:00 PM

If it's linked from an adult site, I'd say it's pushing cp.
Obviously, if this was some family's flickr gallery and not linked from an adult site, it might be acceptable.

Jarmusch · 07-30-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

The pics don't look illegal, but since it says "part 1", I'm pretty sure it's part of a series that will make a turn for the worse.

Yes, lets all assume the worse. :rolleyes:

Mr Pheer · 07-30-2007, 03:09 PM

The last I heard, pornography involves sexual organs. Kissing does not.

It may not be in the best taste, but kids kissing is not pornography.

Mr. Cool Ice · 07-30-2007, 03:30 PM

It is appalling how many "professional webmasters" don't know what real CP is.

Pleasurepays · 07-30-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

its not cp

tenderobject · 07-30-2007, 04:21 PM

i fucking hate those blog spammers! damnit much more irritating that email spammer hope they die!

Libertine · 07-30-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

The last I heard, pornography involves sexual organs.

This is *NOT* the case when it comes to minors. Not in the US, anyway. A recent court decision determined that fully clothed pictures of minors, showing neither genitals, breasts, simulated sex or whatever, may still be illegal.

MaDalton · 07-30-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

This is *NOT* the case when it comes to minors. Not in the US, anyway. A recent court decision determined that fully clothed pictures of minors, showing neither genitals, breasts, simulated sex or whatever, may still be illegal.

btw - the pic in your sig would be illegal according to that too

bizarrejan · 07-30-2007, 04:50 PM

got to be illegal

Libertine · 07-30-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

btw - the pic in your sig would be illegal according to that too

Ehm, it's a drawing. If it were a real photograph, however, it could indeed be illegal, if it was determined that the subject was underage and that the picture implied something to do with sex.

Basically, it's all up to the court... no clear rules. A bit like obscenity laws.

VicD · 07-30-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NTM

thats what the spam text said

sortie · 07-30-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM

someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?

I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

It's illegal because of the simulated sex acts.
It doesn't matter if they have clothes on.

a1ka1ine · 07-30-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Ehm, it's a drawing. If it were a real photograph, however, it could indeed be illegal, if it was determined that the subject was underage and that the picture implied something to do with sex.

Basically, it's all up to the court... no clear rules. A bit like obscenity laws.

its a picture of an underage girl and although it is not naked it is on a board about sex/adult so arguably could be illegal!

and.. pictures "depictions" are not exempt from all this in the US

tehHinjew · 07-30-2007, 07:18 PM

post the ip addres of the person who posted it + the comment itself

IllTestYourGirls · 07-30-2007, 07:18 PM

Has anyone asked this question? Why would they spam that site on your site? Is there a virus, spyware or something on the page? What sponsors is it linking to? I dont get why someone would leave a random gallery or site that has 12 year olds kissing and nothing else on it.

Libertine · 07-30-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by a1ka1ine

its a picture of an underage girl and although it is not naked it is on a board about sex/adult so arguably could be illegal!

and.. pictures "depictions" are not exempt from all this in the US

Ehm, no. It is posted on a board about the adult industry, but that in no way implies that it is pornographic content.

As for the depictions thing... the constitutionality of the laws against drawings is still rather questionable. Last time the supreme court was involved, a similar law was struck down.

Young · 07-30-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

post the ip addres of the person who posted it + the comment itself

I'm thinking there is no IP because there is no comment.

After seeing his post about pictures of his daughters friends...and now this...I'm wondering if NTM is a sane person or not.

Young · 07-30-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Has anyone asked this question? Why would they spam that site on your site? Is there a virus, spyware or something on the page? What sponsors is it linking to? I dont get why someone would leave a random gallery or site that has 12 year olds kissing and nothing else on it.

Exactly. The story is made even more unbelievable due to his posting history.

shekinah · 07-30-2007, 07:42 PM

They are below minors, in fact they are still kids... so report it!:

pink_in_the_middle · 07-30-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shekinah

They are below minors, in fact they are still kids... so report it!:

It's reported.
NTM you shouldn't even need to ask if this is legal or not, it just shows what type of person you are you sick fuck

Intricate · 07-30-2007, 11:11 PM

The pictures are sexual in nature. I like real women, and two adult women making out is sexually appealing to me. Similarly, two 12 year old girls making out would be sexually appealing to a person who liked that.

I reported it, regardless of whatever some of you may believe. That isn't just "cute kissing" between friends.

Impact, not intent.

Pornography is defined as "obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit."

Obscene in this case is defined as "causing uncontrolled sexual desire."

Therefore, pornography does not have to involve nudity, it only has to suggest at sexuality. Pornography is not recorded nudity, it is any media which results in sexual stimulation, whether intended in that way or not.

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