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SimonScans · 08-07-2007, 01:23 PM

I've just about had it with designers and here's why...

Read the brief - typos in the site name make you look like idiots! And if you leave them there for 3 rounds of alterations...

You have a folio of great stuff, you do great stuff for other people, but I get helvetica in grey, on a grey background. And you made me wait for "something stunning". Who do I have to fuck to get the one guy in the office with any skills?

I give you ideas and lash-ups which you barely tweak, let alone improve upon, you just add some outer glow or a drop shadow and send it back along with a request for payment. Here's a clue. I'm hiring you to do things I can't and add some creative input at the same time.

No, I won't brief yet another account manager over ICQ or MSN - I don't care if the first one has issues at home or has just been abducted by aliens! My time is valuable too, and don't any of you keep notes on anything?

Stick to the deadlines you offered me, and don't whine about "other" clients when I'm moaning about the timescale YOU offered, and YOU failed to keep to.

Pay attention! If you have too much work, charge more, do less and do it better. Do you really think we can't tell when your attention is elsewhere and you're typing in 5 other ICQ windows? Finish some work, before taking on yet more!

Rant over. Dare you to send me your folio link.

Forest · 08-07-2007, 01:28 PM

wow tell us how you really feel

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 08-07-2007, 01:47 PM

SimonScans you have a nice site.

Could you provide a link to this crap for the rest of us please.

Thanks,

sniperwolf · 08-07-2007, 01:52 PM

We are web designers. ;)

cyberstar · 08-07-2007, 01:57 PM

"typos in the site name make you look like idiots!" - it's your site. take time to proofread it so you don't look like an idiot ;-)

EdgeXXX · 08-07-2007, 02:05 PM

There is a HUGE difference between "webpage designers" and actual high-end web design teams. There is a reason that high-end studios charge a lot more for their work (you get what you pay for)...

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 08-07-2007, 02:14 PM

I would like to get into web design work... is it more the issue of creating nice graphics or is it more the overall layout? I know how to use CSS... my site is www.PrismVoD.com and it is done 100% with CSS for its layout with XML... It's a TGP / MGP, however I did not use any fancy graphics... Since for me layout using CSS is easy... I was wondering just how much is put into the graphic side of the website as for it to be seen as a good site by web developers.

Thanks all for your time,

.

Doctor Dre · 08-07-2007, 02:17 PM

This is the reason why you have to pay the price for research and developement too. You cant except adult compagneis too do that for you with the price they are charging... they are only charging you for design as is.

Only guys I've seen in adult that can really offer this are :
envision next
dickmans

We've just had leading mainstream compagny re-do all our site... took them more or less 3 months to get it straight. And it looks like a 3-5k $ design job... nothing close to what we paid. But what isnt showing up is that for every little thing they designed on the site, they made 10 different versions and 4-5 main designs for us to choose from. The way the content is exposed on it is a whole other thing. That's what they worked on.

You get what you pay for.

seeric · 08-07-2007, 02:18 PM

you get what you pay for.

you pay top dollar, you get top dollar attention.

everytime i have used a "cheap" designer to cut some $ it was a disaster.

i would recommend anyone choosing designers, pay for the best.

2cents

good luck with your issues.

cardinalvices · 08-07-2007, 02:20 PM

Its all about the portfolio. If you like it, order some work. If you don't like it, why even bother? It won't work.

I always ask my clients if they like what they see in our portfolio. If they don't (and some say that), why did you come to me then?

SimonScans · 08-07-2007, 02:31 PM

No, I mean typos in the LOGO the designers send to me for approval.

SimonScans · 08-07-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

There is a HUGE difference between "webpage designers" and actual high-end web design teams. There is a reason that high-end studios charge a lot more for their work (you get what you pay for)...

I wish my experience had been like that - frequently its the big studios who grade you as a client then assign you the newbie if you aren't a priority to them.

shaGuar · 08-07-2007, 02:35 PM

i ain't happy
i'm feelin' glad
i got sunshine
in a bag
i'm useless
but no for long
the future
is coming on ;)

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 08-07-2007, 02:35 PM

So what do you think of mine ?

^^

.

EdgeXXX · 08-07-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonScans

I wish my experience had been like that - frequently its the big studios who grade you as a client then assign you the newbie if you aren't a priority to them.

Who are you considering "big studios"?

SimonScans · 08-07-2007, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

This is the reason why you have to pay the price for research and developement too. You cant except adult compagneis too do that for you with the price they are charging... they are only charging you for design as is.

Only guys I've seen in adult that can really offer this are :
envision next
dickmans

We've just had leading mainstream compagny re-do all our site... took them more or less 3 months to get it straight. And it looks like a 3-5k $ design job... nothing close to what we paid. But what isnt showing up is that for every little thing they designed on the site, they made 10 different versions and 4-5 main designs for us to choose from. The way the content is exposed on it is a whole other thing. That's what they worked on.

You get what you pay for.

Dickmans are on my list, and in fact, I mailed them earlier today. They do some lovely stuff. There's always money for development - and in fact I always offer to pay per hour ands not per project as I don't want the designers to feel they need to hit a budget. Time is precious and I do get grumpy over that, but money isn't.

JD · 08-07-2007, 02:41 PM

those bastards :/

SimonScans · 08-07-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalvices

Its all about the portfolio. If you like it, order some work. If you don't like it, why even bother? It won't work.

I always ask my clients if they like what they see in our portfolio. If they don't (and some say that), why did you come to me then?

But when you order work and it looks nothing like their folio, what then?

cyberstar · 08-07-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonScans

No, I mean typos in the LOGO the designers send to me for approval.

ahh.. then if they can't pay attention to one of the most important elements as that, you can't expect much.. sorry to hear that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonScans

But when you order work and it looks nothing like their folio, what then?

you are the client - make them redo it. Point out what you like and what you don't like. Most reputable companies should have '100% satisfaction guarantee' policy. We do :-)

08-07-2007, 01:23 PM	#1
SimonScans Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 342	Are you Web Designer or just useless? I've just about had it with designers and here's why... Read the brief - typos in the site name make you look like idiots! And if you leave them there for 3 rounds of alterations... You have a folio of great stuff, you do great stuff for other people, but I get helvetica in grey, on a grey background. And you made me wait for "something stunning". Who do I have to fuck to get the one guy in the office with any skills? I give you ideas and lash-ups which you barely tweak, let alone improve upon, you just add some outer glow or a drop shadow and send it back along with a request for payment. Here's a clue. I'm hiring you to do things I can't and add some creative input at the same time. No, I won't brief yet another account manager over ICQ or MSN - I don't care if the first one has issues at home or has just been abducted by aliens! My time is valuable too, and don't any of you keep notes on anything? Stick to the deadlines you offered me, and don't whine about "other" clients when I'm moaning about the timescale YOU offered, and YOU failed to keep to. Pay attention! If you have too much work, charge more, do less and do it better. Do you really think we can't tell when your attention is elsewhere and you're typing in 5 other ICQ windows? Finish some work, before taking on yet more! Rant over. Dare you to send me your folio link.

08-07-2007, 01:47 PM	#3
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EdgeXXX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Secretely plotting a hostile takeover Posts: 5,816	There is a HUGE difference between "webpage designers" and actual high-end web design teams. There is a reason that high-end studios charge a lot more for their work (you get what you pay for)... __________________ . . . . I have a sig

08-07-2007, 01:28 PM	#2
Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,980	wow tell us how you really feel

08-07-2007, 02:14 PM	#7
yahoo-xxx-girls.com Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,143	Quick question web designers ... I would like to get into web design work... is it more the issue of creating nice graphics or is it more the overall layout? I know how to use CSS... my site is www.PrismVoD.com and it is done 100% with CSS for its layout with XML... It's a TGP / MGP, however I did not use any fancy graphics... Since for me layout using CSS is easy... I was wondering just how much is put into the graphic side of the website as for it to be seen as a good site by web developers. Thanks all for your time, . __________________ sig too big

08-07-2007, 02:18 PM	#9
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	you get what you pay for. you pay top dollar, you get top dollar attention. everytime i have used a "cheap" designer to cut some $ it was a disaster. i would recommend anyone choosing designers, pay for the best. 2cents good luck with your issues.

08-07-2007, 02:20 PM	#10
cardinalvices Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,084	Its all about the portfolio. If you like it, order some work. If you don't like it, why even bother? It won't work. I always ask my clients if they like what they see in our portfolio. If they don't (and some say that), why did you come to me then? __________________ Cardinal Vices Studio - your one stop shop for webdesign! Paysites \| Consulting \| Tube sites \| TGPs \| Galleries/Banner ads \| Flash peel ads Start your own cam site - Get Live Cam Site Solution

08-07-2007, 02:31 PM	#11
SimonScans Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 342	No, I mean typos in the LOGO the designers send to me for approval.

08-07-2007, 02:35 PM	#13
shaGuar Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 244	i ain't happy i'm feelin' glad i got sunshine in a bag i'm useless but no for long the future is coming on ;)

08-07-2007, 02:35 PM	#14
yahoo-xxx-girls.com Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,143	So what do you think of mine ? ^^ . __________________ sig too big

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	those bastards :/