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DaddyHalbucks · 10-20-2007, 12:50 PM

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

"Iran warned on Saturday it would fire off 11,000 rockets at enemy bases within the space of a minute if the United States launched military action against the Islamic republic.

"In the first minute of an invasion by the enemy, 11,000 rockets and cannons would be fired at enemy bases," said a brigadier general in the elite Revolutionary Guards, Mahmoud Chaharbaghi."...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 12:54 PM

what do you fucking expect? LOL. yeah dude they are going to do nothing if they are attacked....>.>

IllTestYourGirls · 10-20-2007, 12:57 PM

You would be amazed at how the media in the US is playing this. They are saying if we strike just a few spots in Iran they will do nothing.

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Originally Posted by buzzy

what do you fucking expect? LOL. yeah dude they are going to do nothing if they are attacked....>.>

SuckOnThis · 10-20-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

Hopefully one of them is pointed at your house

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:00 PM

who · 10-20-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

"Iran warned on Saturday it would fire off 11,000 rockets at enemy bases within the space of a minute if the United States launched military action against the Islamic republic.

"In the first minute of an invasion by the enemy, 11,000 rockets and cannons would be fired at enemy bases," said a brigadier general in the elite Revolutionary Guards, Mahmoud Chaharbaghi."...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1

I hope they do, too.

DEA - banned for life · 10-20-2007, 01:03 PM

directfiesta · 10-20-2007, 01:05 PM

Amazing the spin about Iran ..

And the idiots are buying into it .... while Pakistan is boiling over ...

I wonder what the US would do if a warplane came to bomb something in their fatherland .... just like Israel did in Iran ..

Iran showed quite a lot of constraint, since they are past the ' pre-emptive ' level ...

pornask · 10-20-2007, 01:10 PM

Go Iran...

jeffrey · 10-20-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

BS..if it were true why would they brag about it? They are scared shit less right now.

I have a feeling a US military strike again Iran would result in 90% of those installations being destroyed before the Iranian government knew it was getting attacked.

I'm not trying to toot the US military's horn, but they sure do have a fuck load of resources to fuck over some tiny shit hole country real fast.

dynastoned · 10-20-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey

I have a feeling a US military strike again Iran would result in 90% of those installations being destroyed before the Iranian government knew it was getting attacked.

I'm not trying to toot the US military's horn, but they sure do have a fuck load of resources to fuck over some tiny shit hole country real fast.

no shit

eroswebmaster · 10-20-2007, 01:13 PM

I'm beginning to fall in line with some extremist thinking...we need this...we need a cleansing. The time is now.

IllTestYourGirls · 10-20-2007, 01:13 PM

LMAO We do not know where 90% are! We have very poor intel on this. Where as, they are in Iraq right now, and know were everything we have is.

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Originally Posted by jeffrey

I have a feeling a US military strike again Iran would result in 90% of those installations being destroyed before the Iranian government knew it was getting attacked.

I'm not trying to toot the US military's horn, but they sure do have a fuck load of resources to fuck over some tiny shit hole country real fast.

Rochard · 10-20-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DEA

It will be the.....

MOTHER OF ALL BATTLES!

And will be over in forty-eight hours......

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:15 PM

also iran is the size of germany, france and the uk combined, deffinatley not a tiny country.

sortie · 10-20-2007, 01:17 PM

Why do we keep believing that we can whip the shit out of everybody in 2 weeks time yet we are still fucking around in Iraq after 5 years?

D · 10-20-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

BS..if it were true why would they brag about it?

Not everyone is hoping for war, Jesus.

The word "deterrent" comes to mind.

IllTestYourGirls · 10-20-2007, 01:19 PM

And in Germany for over 50 years....

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Originally Posted by sortie

Why do we keep believing that we can whip the shit out of everybody in 2 weeks time yet we are still fucking around in Iraq after 5 years?

Cindyff · 10-20-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

"Iran warned on Saturday it would fire off 11,000 rockets at enemy bases within the space of a minute if the United States launched military action against the Islamic republic.

"In the first minute of an invasion by the enemy, 11,000 rockets and cannons would be fired at enemy bases," said a brigadier general in the elite Revolutionary Guards, Mahmoud Chaharbaghi."...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1

If their rockets are anything like a scud they will end up blowing their own arse's up

Zester · 10-20-2007, 01:20 PM

Mahmoud Chaharbaghi:

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"If a war breaks out in the future, it will not last long because we will rub their noses in the dirt," said Chaharbaghi

RawAlex · 10-20-2007, 01:20 PM

It will be the best 10 seconds iran ever had.

Spunky · 10-20-2007, 01:21 PM

All it takes is a couple a bombs to smarten them up

Donfoolio · 10-20-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I'm beginning to fall in line with some extremist thinking...we need this...we need a cleansing. The time is now.

A cleansing of what?

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:22 PM

americans

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-20-2007, 01:23 PM

The QUD's force leader did not complete his sentence.

11,000 Rockets would fire and not a single one of them would hit a fucking thing.

directfiesta · 10-20-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It will be the.....

MOTHER OF ALL BATTLES!

And will be over in forty-eight hours......

Just like Iraq ....

But, when you see all you guys cheering for invasion ( btw, they did not fly those planes either ) , don't you think they are justified to try to arm themselves and attack as soon as they can ...

Or do like Saddam, destroy their missiles, let inspectors in, then get invaded.

What is shamefull is that the world is just watching ... doing nothing ... Germans would have won if it would have been the same .

Donfoolio · 10-20-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

americans

One can only hope...

pornask · 10-20-2007, 01:31 PM

With each dead American, the world becomes a safer place.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-20-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by D

Not everyone is hoping for war, Jesus.

The word "deterrent" comes to mind.

In the US, nobody hopes for war.

For Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, war is to be celebrated, it is the coming of the 12th Imam.

However, when it comes to dealing with crazies like Hitler, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.. often there is no alternative to war.

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:33 PM

Starting a war is forbidden in his religion, he can only act on self defence, so once again your argument is a logical fallacy.

tony286 · 10-20-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Why do we keep believing that we can whip the shit out of everybody in 2 weeks time yet we are still fucking around in Iraq after 5 years?

Thank you and what the blind dont realize, this isnt iraq. I had read even though they not too hot on their leader, they are very big on nationalism. Iraq will seem like a picnic compared to Iran. There will be real push back on this one and the draft would have to happen because we dont have enough troops. They are trying to run the iraq scripts and most arent buying the bullshit. I also dont think congress will let this happen again. The good thing if it happens and the draft happens.There wont be another republican elected into office for 100yrs lol.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-20-2007, 01:36 PM

Awaiting the 12th Imam

"Is there art that is more beautiful, more divine, and more eternal than the art of martyrdom? A nation with martyrdom knows no captivity." - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, Speaking on the virtues of suicide bombing

Iran's nuclear program has long been the subject of debate. It is viewed by most as one of the greatest threats to international security. Yet some have condemned efforts to stem Iran's nuclear ambitions as hypocritical. One such commentator wrote, "The US government cannot make a reasonable case as to why it's OK for Israel to have a stockpile of nuclear warheads but it's not OK for any other nation in the Middle East to pursue nuclear weapons technology." Such sentiments may seem reasonable to some. However they do not take into account some of the key dynamics behind the Middle East conflict.

Unlike Iran, Israel is not a signatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and, as such, technically does not have to abide by nuclear anti-proliferation conventions. Over the past five decades Israel has developed a nuclear-weapons program but has neither denied nor admitted the existence of its nuclear arsenal. Israelis call this policy "strategic ambiguity." Israel is surrounded on all sides by enemies bent on bringing about its destruction. Israel, therefore, developed its nuclear program to serve as a deterrent. Israel's nuclear arsenal is one of the primary reason nations like Iran have not yet succeeded in their plans to wipe Israel "off the map."

Iran is governed by Shiite Muslim clerics committed to a stern interpretation of Islamic law. Hatred of the United States has been a key component of Iranian foreign policy since the 1978 Islamic revolution, and Iran's leaders often refer to the United States as the "Great Satan." Iran's distaste for the United States is surpassed only by their utter loathing of Israel. Iran's political and religious leaders have repeatedly called for Israel's complete destruction.

The State Department calls the Islamic Republic of Iran the world's "most active state sponsor of terrorism." Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iran mostly backs Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah (which Iran helped found in the 1980s) and such Palestinian terrorist groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Iran uses such groups to carry out a proxy war on Israel and the West. It is therefore folly to allow Iran, and consequently its terrorist allies, to obtain nuclear technology.

The Dark Horse

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was elected in June of 2005 with more than 60 percent of the vote. He is Iran's sixth president since the 1979 revolution. He ran on a populist economic platform and beat former president Hashemi Rafsanjani - who was hugely wealthy and purportedly very corrupt. Unlike Rafsanjani, Ahmadinejad appealed to the people. He is seen as an honest and simple man. According to reports, he lives so modestly that his personal assets include only a 30-year-old car, an even older house, and an empty bank account. Ahmadinejad projects the image of a humble and devout man. He is motivated, not by wealth or power, but by his conservative Islamic ideals.

Ahmadinejad is a controversial figure in the international community, but he has the support of the Iranian people and the backing of Supreme Leader Ali Ayatollah Khamenei. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad graduated from college with a degree in civil engineering and joined the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps during the Iran-Iraq war. During the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Ahmadinejad was a member of the radical student group that took control of the US embassy. Ahmadinejad reportedly played a central role in the hostage crisis, which included interrogating captives.

Prior to running for president, Ahmadinejad was the mayor of Tehran, Iran's capitol city. He was appointed mayor in the spring of 2003 by the city council. Before becoming mayor, Ahmadinejad was a relatively unknown figure in Iranian politics. In fact, the city council members that appointed him came to power in an election that could only boast of a 12 percent voter turnout.

The Return of the 12th Imam

When Ahmadinejad addressed the United Nations General Assembly in October of 2005, he ended his speech with a prayer imploring God to hasten the return of the 12th Imam. Ahmadinejad refers to the return of the 12th Imam, also known as the Mahdi, in almost all his major speeches. In the Islamic faith, the Mahdi is the ultimate savior of mankind. His appearance will usher in an era of Islamic justice and bring about the conversion of the heathen amidst flame and fire. The Mahdi will establish Islam as the global religion and will reign for seven years before bringing about the end of the world.

In a speech last November, Ahmadinejad is quoted as saying: "Our revolution's main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi. Therefore, Iran should become a powerful, developed and model Islamic society. Today, we should define our economic, cultural and political policies based on the policy of Imam Mahdi's return. We should avoid copying the West's policies and systems."

The beliefs of Sunni and Shiite Muslims differ on the identity of the Mahdi. Sunnis either believe that he is yet to be born, or that he was born recently and has yet to emerge. Shiites hold that the Mahdi is Muhammad ibn Hasan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad born in the 9th century and the 12th and final Shiite Imam. As a devout Shiite, Ahmadinejad believes that the 12th Imam was hidden away by Allah at a young age and will someday emerge to bring justice and peace by establishing Islam throughout the world. After taking office Ahmadinejad allocated $20 million for the expansion of the Jamkaran mosque, a religious pilgrimage site where Shiites can drop messages to the "Hidden Imam" in a holy well.

Ahmadinejad ardently believes in the imminent return of 12th Imam, which he anticipates will happen in the next two years. He believes he has a personal role in ushering in the return of the Mahdi and is preparing Iran for Judgment Day. Understanding this perspective is vital to understanding the Iranian threat.

Source:
http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2006/1099/print/

Donfoolio · 10-20-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

In the US, nobody hopes for war.

For Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, war is to be celebrated, it is the coming of the 12th Imam.

However, when it comes to dealing with crazies like Hitler, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.. often there is no alternative to war.

Here is the problem with most peoples thinking nowadays. When one mentions Hitler, Saddam etc etc they are mentioning single people who are solely responsible for their actions as leaders of a country. When the USA goes around committing genocide and starting immoral wars who is to take full blame? A parliamentary government is set up to allow no sole person to take responsibility for any action done. So how do you condemn all the things the USA does wrong on a daily basis? The people of the republic that allow their "free" country to act on their behalf.

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:40 PM

Yup whats your point? The Mahdi will come at a point when there is severe injustice and tyranny in the world, according to the religion. What does this have to do with the point which is, ACCORDING TO SHIITE ISLAM, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO START WARS - IT IS FORBIDDEN.

Thus rendering your argument a fallacy.

clear enough for you? lmfao

DaddyHalbucks · 10-20-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

Yup whats your point? The Mahdi will come at a point when there is severe injustice and tyranny in the world, according to the religion. What does this have to do with the point which is, ACCORDING TO SHIITE ISLAM, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO START WARS - IT IS FORBIDDEN.

Thus rendering your argument a fallacy.

clear enough for you? lmfao

No, it's not clear at all.

Perhaps you could explain to me how Islam allowed 9/11?

?

buzzy · 10-20-2007, 01:49 PM

They were sunnis, not shiites. CLEAR?

pornask · 10-20-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Perhaps you could explain to me how Islam allowed 9/11?

did you just get out of the cave, dude?

hateman · 10-20-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Hopefully one of them is pointed at your house

Vick! · 10-20-2007, 02:02 PM

Good thing from Iran, world need some more powers to take stands to establish balance, hence peace.

GreyWolf · 10-20-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

Sure - that's what countries do in wars. What bit do you not understand?

Is this a source of concern to you? You don't live anywhere near the Middle East and the affairs of Middle East countries are not your business.

What makes you think you are have business whatsoever with Iran?? Your government has back-stabbed, lied, decieved, murdered and even installed a puppet government in Iran over the past 30+ years - all of which has come back to hit them in the face. Take a tip - mind your own fucking business

borked · 10-20-2007, 02:20 PM

I think directfiesta hit the proverbial atomic bomb on the head.

Iran have shown quite a lot of restraint under the global spotlight.

Come on Yanks whatcha waiting for? Hey, you'll probably even have Sarko's Army behind you this time, so it should be easy... Maybe Sarko has replaced Blair, since the Brits don't seem too interested in Brown nosing you these days. Whatcha say? Take out these weirdo's and do the world a favour?

Fap · 10-20-2007, 02:39 PM

thats stupid.. after the 11,000 they are depleted.. stupid army tactic!

baddog · 10-20-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey

I have a feeling a US military strike again Iran would result in 90% of those installations being destroyed before the Iranian government knew it was getting attacked.

I'm not trying to toot the US military's horn, but they sure do have a fuck load of resources to fuck over some tiny shit hole country real fast.

They might shoot 11,000 rockets, but they would be unguided and have no idea where they were headed

D · 10-20-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

In the US, nobody hopes for war.

If no one in the US wanted war, we wouldn't be in Iraq.

Plenty of people in the U.S. want war. For example, I just watched "Borat" the other night, and that idea was backed up by a crowd at a rodeo cheering him on as he spoke of keeping up the fight until every Iraqi was dead.

Russia and China have allied with Iran in order to deter the U.S. from attacking the country. Now Iran is trying to do the same by issuing statements of power. You can't blame a leader for trying to defend his country.

Everyone in the U.S. has been waiting for GW to make another excuse to enter Iraq ever since he added them to his "Axis of Evil." We've been expecting this...

What a profoundly stupid move on the part of our executive, eh? How do you think we'd be reacting if a country with 20-100 times our military might put us on their "axis of evil" right as they were invading and setting up bases in Mexico - doing away with another country on their "evil" list?

If WW3 starts because of this, I'm sure that history will perceive the U.S. as the aggressors... just as Germany was in WW2.

It significantly bothers me that a good number of U.S. citizens are still buying into the propaganda of the current U.S. administration.

xmas13 · 10-20-2007, 03:08 PM

It's exactly what Saddam Hussein was saying before the attack.

WW3 movie scheduled for release next year

DirtyProfits · 10-20-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donfoolio

Hitler, Saddam etc etc they are mentioning single people who are solely responsible for their actions as leaders of a country

Hitler was just a marionette, there were many people in the background planning everything, a lot smarter than him.

KingK7 · 10-20-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

Hitler was just a marionette, there were many people in the background planning everything, a lot smarter than him.

http://www.funnydump.com/category/4-...ler_dance.html

Grapesoda · 10-20-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Amazing the spin about Iran ..

And the idiots are buying into it .... while Pakistan is boiling over ...

I wonder what the US would do if a warplane came to bomb something in their fatherland .... just like Israel did in Iran ..

Iran showed quite a lot of constraint, since they are past the ' pre-emptive ' level ...

or is some country knocked over some sky scrapers in NYC?

Donfoolio · 10-20-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

Hitler was just a marionette, there were many people in the background planning everything, a lot smarter than him.

The point is that throughout history he is demonized just as Saddam was and just as any other "enemy of freedom". Yet the true enemy's of freedom are the ignoramuses that allow evil to go on as long as they are not on the receiving end. Take 9/11 for an example... all the shit America has done to other races and other countries we never hear or for that part care about... yet you can't spend 10 minutes without hearing some bleeding heart puss whine about 9/11. When the shoe is on the other foot it is funny how that foot aches.

minusonebit · 10-20-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DEA

Wait, is ePassporte behind this some how? I knew they were behind the disappearance of GFY search, but are they behind WWIII too? Oh noos!

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DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Awaiting the 12th Imam "Is there art that is more beautiful, more divine, and more eternal than the art of martyrdom? A nation with martyrdom knows no captivity." - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, Speaking on the virtues of suicide bombing Iran's nuclear program has long been the subject of debate. It is viewed by most as one of the greatest threats to international security. Yet some have condemned efforts to stem Iran's nuclear ambitions as hypocritical. One such commentator wrote, "The US government cannot make a reasonable case as to why it's OK for Israel to have a stockpile of nuclear warheads but it's not OK for any other nation in the Middle East to pursue nuclear weapons technology." Such sentiments may seem reasonable to some. However they do not take into account some of the key dynamics behind the Middle East conflict. Unlike Iran, Israel is not a signatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and, as such, technically does not have to abide by nuclear anti-proliferation conventions. Over the past five decades Israel has developed a nuclear-weapons program but has neither denied nor admitted the existence of its nuclear arsenal. Israelis call this policy "strategic ambiguity." Israel is surrounded on all sides by enemies bent on bringing about its destruction. Israel, therefore, developed its nuclear program to serve as a deterrent. Israel's nuclear arsenal is one of the primary reason nations like Iran have not yet succeeded in their plans to wipe Israel "off the map." Iran is governed by Shiite Muslim clerics committed to a stern interpretation of Islamic law. Hatred of the United States has been a key component of Iranian foreign policy since the 1978 Islamic revolution, and Iran's leaders often refer to the United States as the "Great Satan." Iran's distaste for the United States is surpassed only by their utter loathing of Israel. Iran's political and religious leaders have repeatedly called for Israel's complete destruction. The State Department calls the Islamic Republic of Iran the world's "most active state sponsor of terrorism." Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iran mostly backs Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah (which Iran helped found in the 1980s) and such Palestinian terrorist groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Iran uses such groups to carry out a proxy war on Israel and the West. It is therefore folly to allow Iran, and consequently its terrorist allies, to obtain nuclear technology. The Dark Horse President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was elected in June of 2005 with more than 60 percent of the vote. He is Iran's sixth president since the 1979 revolution. He ran on a populist economic platform and beat former president Hashemi Rafsanjani - who was hugely wealthy and purportedly very corrupt. Unlike Rafsanjani, Ahmadinejad appealed to the people. He is seen as an honest and simple man. According to reports, he lives so modestly that his personal assets include only a 30-year-old car, an even older house, and an empty bank account. Ahmadinejad projects the image of a humble and devout man. He is motivated, not by wealth or power, but by his conservative Islamic ideals. Ahmadinejad is a controversial figure in the international community, but he has the support of the Iranian people and the backing of Supreme Leader Ali Ayatollah Khamenei. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad graduated from college with a degree in civil engineering and joined the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps during the Iran-Iraq war. During the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Ahmadinejad was a member of the radical student group that took control of the US embassy. Ahmadinejad reportedly played a central role in the hostage crisis, which included interrogating captives. Prior to running for president, Ahmadinejad was the mayor of Tehran, Iran's capitol city. He was appointed mayor in the spring of 2003 by the city council. Before becoming mayor, Ahmadinejad was a relatively unknown figure in Iranian politics. In fact, the city council members that appointed him came to power in an election that could only boast of a 12 percent voter turnout. The Return of the 12th Imam When Ahmadinejad addressed the United Nations General Assembly in October of 2005, he ended his speech with a prayer imploring God to hasten the return of the 12th Imam. Ahmadinejad refers to the return of the 12th Imam, also known as the Mahdi, in almost all his major speeches. In the Islamic faith, the Mahdi is the ultimate savior of mankind. His appearance will usher in an era of Islamic justice and bring about the conversion of the heathen amidst flame and fire. The Mahdi will establish Islam as the global religion and will reign for seven years before bringing about the end of the world. In a speech last November, Ahmadinejad is quoted as saying: "Our revolution's main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi. Therefore, Iran should become a powerful, developed and model Islamic society. Today, we should define our economic, cultural and political policies based on the policy of Imam Mahdi's return. We should avoid copying the West's policies and systems." The beliefs of Sunni and Shiite Muslims differ on the identity of the Mahdi. Sunnis either believe that he is yet to be born, or that he was born recently and has yet to emerge. Shiites hold that the Mahdi is Muhammad ibn Hasan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad born in the 9th century and the 12th and final Shiite Imam. As a devout Shiite, Ahmadinejad believes that the 12th Imam was hidden away by Allah at a young age and will someday emerge to bring justice and peace by establishing Islam throughout the world. After taking office Ahmadinejad allocated $20 million for the expansion of the Jamkaran mosque, a religious pilgrimage site where Shiites can drop messages to the "Hidden Imam" in a holy well. Ahmadinejad ardently believes in the imminent return of 12th Imam, which he anticipates will happen in the next two years. He believes he has a personal role in ushering in the return of the Mahdi and is preparing Iran for Judgment Day. Understanding this perspective is vital to understanding the Iranian threat. Source: http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2006/1099/print/ __________________ Boner Money

10-20-2007, 01:40 PM	#34
buzzy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,606	Yup whats your point? The Mahdi will come at a point when there is severe injustice and tyranny in the world, according to the religion. What does this have to do with the point which is, ACCORDING TO SHIITE ISLAM, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO START WARS - IT IS FORBIDDEN. Thus rendering your argument a fallacy. clear enough for you? lmfao Last edited by buzzy; 10-20-2007 at 01:42 PM..

10-20-2007, 01:49 PM	#36
buzzy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,606	They were sunnis, not shiites. CLEAR?

10-20-2007, 02:02 PM	#39
Vick! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W Posts: 6,882	Good thing from Iran, world need some more powers to take stands to establish balance, hence peace. __________________ Affordable Quality Web Hosting

10-20-2007, 02:20 PM	#41
borked Totally Borked Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,284	I think directfiesta hit the proverbial atomic bomb on the head. Iran have shown quite a lot of restraint under the global spotlight. Come on Yanks whatcha waiting for? Hey, you'll probably even have Sarko's Army behind you this time, so it should be easy... Maybe Sarko has replaced Blair, since the Brits don't seem too interested in Brown nosing you these days. Whatcha say? Take out these weirdo's and do the world a favour? __________________ For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com (consider figuring out the email as test #1) All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

10-20-2007, 02:39 PM	#42
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	thats stupid.. after the 11,000 they are depleted.. stupid army tactic!

10-20-2007, 03:08 PM	#45
xmas13 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GFY Posts: 5,176	It's exactly what Saddam Hussein was saying before the attack. WW3 movie scheduled for release next year