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Old 08-21-2007, 06:10 PM   #1
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** Warning ** Do not fear torrent sites anymore!

Because non-torrent web 2.0 sites are taking over. Totally powered/updated & hosted by mainstream video sharing sites.

Just take a look at this steady growth & rank. Then compare to thepiratebay...

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...tv-links.co.uk

http://www.tv-links.co.uk = actual site

Now compare to the largest torrent site on earth.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iratebay. org

While you guys are sitting around trying to figure out how to take the fight to the torrent kids, a whole new generation of sites with much more mass appeal are popping up all over.

You've been warned.

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Old 08-21-2007, 06:25 PM   #2
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pr0 why do you have aff in your sig mang
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:26 PM   #3
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pr0 why do you have aff in your sig mang
who i promote is my business

my views are my views.....

I'm not here to make friends...I'm here to make $
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:05 PM   #4
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who i promote is my business

my views are my views.....

I'm not here to make friends...I'm here to make $
... wait you'll still cuddle with me though right.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:06 PM   #5
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yeah man web 2.0...3.0 etc

smart sites...its the way of the future
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Wow that site is nice
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:37 PM   #7
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:57 PM   #9
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:05 PM   #10
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I've been all over tube sites like mad, I know more about the other side of that business then most here.

You will see.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:16 PM   #11
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That's plain crazy! Thanks for the link dude.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:24 PM   #12
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It is a just site that is basically filtering out youtube and other tube site listings and relisting them. A business model entirely dependant not only on users ripping videos, but someone else paying the bandwidth.

Smart enough to get them run out of business. youtube just has to push the "ban" button on them and they will be toast.
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It is a just site that is basically filtering out youtube and other tube site listings and relisting them. A business model entirely dependant not only on users ripping videos, but someone else paying the bandwidth.

Smart enough to get them run out of business. youtube just has to push the "ban" button on them and they will be toast.
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yet........
That site is layed out better then tube sites.

Just wait till a porn site gets indexing and usuability like that
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... wait you'll still cuddle with me though right.
your like a Nigerian scammer - you never stop.. .

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ive never thought of torrents as a problem, just because someone downloads your movie doesnt neccessarily mean they would have otherwise bought it.
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Keep insinuating ass hat...
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Keep insinuating ass hat...
you caused your own damage asswipe..
did you ever send that camera?
how does it feel to steal and get caught..
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anybody else see the "Pamela Anderson Exposed" Zango banner.

Jesus...
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did you ever send that camera?
how does it feel to steal and get caught..
Yup and Brad is shooting HD content with it. I didnt steal a thing. Keep going on about it....
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Yup and Brad is shooting HD content with it. I didnt steal a thing. Keep going on about it....
you lost all of your credibility here - anyone that sends you another dollar should be forewarned - I for one have instructed my staff not to ever buy from you or anyone that you work with..
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you lost all of your credibility here - anyone that sends you another dollar should be forewarned - I for one have instructed my staff not to ever buy from you or anyone that you work with..
Oh noes your invisible staff.... First off just who the fuck are you so I can make sure I do the same. Look like a full time troll to me.
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And no torrent or "web 2.bullshit" will ever be able to have the ability to actually entertain an audience. Yeah, there's a place for "user content". And then there are people who DEMAND something better. Who want something that is crafted and presented professionally. I'm sure that all the trailer park people will enjoy the torrent sites. But when I go out on the town, I like to go first class. Same when I'm surfing. I don't want to see a shitty, out of context vid ripped on a torrent site. I want to walk in the front door of the site and get the red carpet treatment. I want the full effect if you will.

And most people with money want the same thing. The low class trash can hang on the torrent sites all day long and download stolen vids. They still don't know what's going on in the members area and the interactive things that are happening inside that CAN'T be stolen. You can't steal my creativity. And you can't steal what I'm gonna do next.

You can only rip off what I've already done. Web 2.0 is like looking in the rearview mirror in terms of entertaining the audience. So you pro-torrent guys go ahead and enjoy your "new" technology and smugly pat yourselves on the back. Meanwhile, the people with true creativity and ideas will continue to create NEW stuff and leave you always a step behind in the actual content you are presenting...and leave you completely out of the game in terms of total presentation of said content in it's proper context.
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Oh noes your invisible staff.... First off just who the fuck are you so I can make sure I do the same. Look like a full time troll to me.
You = TROLL
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Your done in this biz - only suckers and newbies will do biz with you..
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Awww my poor fewings. Corn Trollio doesnt like me....
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ive never thought of torrents as a problem, just because someone downloads your movie doesnt neccessarily mean they would have otherwise bought it.
Doesn't matter if they would have or not, the value of your product decreases if it's available for a lower cost (free). Think of it as real estate, you're trying to sell your house and some guy up the block is giving them away for free it hurts your ability to sell and profit off your property.
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And no torrent or "web 2.bullshit" will ever be able to have the ability to actually entertain an audience. Yeah, there's a place for "user content". And then there are people who DEMAND something better. Who want something that is crafted and presented professionally. I'm sure that all the trailer park people will enjoy the torrent sites. But when I go out on the town, I like to go first class. Same when I'm surfing. I don't want to see a shitty, out of context vid ripped on a torrent site. I want to walk in the front door of the site and get the red carpet treatment. I want the full effect if you will.

And most people with money want the same thing. The low class trash can hang on the torrent sites all day long and download stolen vids. They still don't know what's going on in the members area and the interactive things that are happening inside that CAN'T be stolen. You can't steal my creativity. And you can't steal what I'm gonna do next.

You can only rip off what I've already done. Web 2.0 is like looking in the rearview mirror in terms of entertaining the audience. So you pro-torrent guys go ahead and enjoy your "new" technology and smugly pat yourselves on the back. Meanwhile, the people with true creativity and ideas will continue to create NEW stuff and leave you always a step behind in the actual content you are presenting...and leave you completely out of the game in terms of total presentation of said content in it's proper context.
Dude, we're talking about porn surfers... not world travellers looking for posh 5 star hotels. They don't care about the creativity, if they have the option of not giving out their CC number to get their rocks off they're going to take it
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What I'd like to know is out of all the GFYers doing post after post of anti-torrent rhetoric, how many are letting the new 2257 comment period come and go without saying a peep?

Look at all of the resources being put into mobilizing the anti-torrent movement (which is a waste of time) while maybe one or two people are working the boards trying to get those 2257 comments sent in.
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What I'd like to know is out of all the GFYers doing post after post of anti-torrent rhetoric, how many are letting the new 2257 comment period come and go without saying a peep?

Look at all of the resources being put into mobilizing the anti-torrent movement (which is a waste of time) while maybe one or two people are working the boards trying to get those 2257 comments sent in.
2257 and maybe figuring out how to actually SECURE their content would be a better use of energy in my opinion.
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my views are my views.....

I'm not here to make friends...I'm here to make $
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you're here to kill time. face it.
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Because non-torrent web 2.0 sites are taking over. Totally powered/updated & hosted by mainstream video sharing sites.

Just take a look at this steady growth & rank. Then compare to thepiratebay...

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...tv-links.co.uk

http://www.tv-links.co.uk = actual site

Now compare to the largest torrent site on earth.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iratebay. org

While you guys are sitting around trying to figure out how to take the fight to the torrent kids, a whole new generation of sites with much more mass appeal are popping up all over.

You've been warned.

what % of your income comes from spamming and other shady shit? 99% or 100%?

nobody needs your opinion on any of this.
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Dude, we're talking about porn surfers... not world travellers looking for posh 5 star hotels. They don't care about the creativity, if they have the option of not giving out their CC number to get their rocks off they're going to take it
I respectfully disagree. I surf porn. I know what I like. I don't settle for less. I've also ran some of the biggest tgp's in the world over the last ten years and dealt with millions of surfers. People want what they want. Some people never know what it's like to be a member of a premium site. But most want to know. I've watched surfers spend their time looking at free porn until they COULD go in and get the real deal.

Again, it's entertainment. Something I've been doing all my life. I know my audience. Underestimating the desire of a customer for the better things in life is a mistake in my estimation. You can write them off as nothing but perverts wanting to get their rocks off for free.

But I've made millions off of doctors, lawyers, businessmen, and other members from all parts of society who WON'T settle for the lesser things in life. Especially when you take into account the incredible bargain that a good premium paysite is in comparison to other forms of entertainment.

Thirty bucks? I spill more beer in 10 minutes. You could have a good time at a titty bar for oh...about 5 minutes. You could get yourself a half-ass meal at a shitty restaraunt.

OR, you can have a month long membership to a premium site with all the bells and whistles. Available to you 24 hours a day. I mean, it's a pretty cheap form of adult entertainment.

And again...the torrent sites can NOT foresee the future and know what I'm going to do next. Or what any of the creative minds in this biz are going to do. All they can do is steal shit that is already in our rear view.

By the time they steal the stuff...we are already working on new scenes and new ideas. Bottom line is the web 2.crap and torrent sites have ZERO creativity.

And you're right, there are plenty of toothless, classless, cheapskate people out there who drink cheap beer, never leave a tip, smoke generic cigarettes, drive shitty cars, have zero ambition, and like to download stolen shit that is already "old news" and is presented out of context and thus not as titillating or sexually exciting as it was originally presented (and yeah, sex is very mental and very visual). I hope they enjoy their "new" "technology" and are feeling good about it.

But true fans (and again, there ARE fans out there....both of tgps and ESPECIALLY fans of the girls in the paysites) will come to see their favorite performer and support her. I've seen that time and again. That isn't gonna change.

To me THAT is the real reason NOT to fear torrent sites. They are thieves and a nuisance. But they are not creative and they aren't inventing or creating ANYTHING new.

I'm far more impressed with creativity, hard work, and attention to detail than I am a group of lpeople who can't create...which is what I consider torrent sites to be.
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what % of your income comes from spamming and other shady shit? 99% or 100%?

nobody needs your opinion on any of this.
Perhaps you'd like to name your source on this to legitimize your wildly false claim?

But hey maybe you'd rather talk in private. In fact, why don't we meet up somewhere tomorrow, name a city, I'll be there.

Am i involved in creative measures seo? You're fucking right I am...& I'm proud of it bitch ass.

If creating thousands of pages/domains over thousands of ip's is "shady"....then o well...guess I'm guilty.

Fucking homo
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Thats a great link I can watch old tv shows
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:59 AM   #45
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The amazing part of the whole Torrent/pirated/free content thing is;

The industry that pioneered the "Free Porn" concept is now getting screwed by the "Free Porn" concept.

You can only sell a low quality over priced product when the consumer has no real options. The biggest problem is not the existence of free porn sites. It's the reality of the porn consumer choosing them over what we generally offer.

There are exceptions but few.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:59 AM   #46
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Thats a great link I can watch old tv shows
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:27 AM   #47
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Because non-torrent web 2.0 sites are taking over. Totally powered/updated & hosted by mainstream video sharing sites.

Just take a look at this steady growth & rank. Then compare to thepiratebay...

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...tv-links.co.uk

http://www.tv-links.co.uk = actual site

Now compare to the largest torrent site on earth.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iratebay. org

While you guys are sitting around trying to figure out how to take the fight to the torrent kids, a whole new generation of sites with much more mass appeal are popping up all over.

You've been warned.

I love torrent sites. And this site you linked: http://www.tv-links.co.uk has been in my bookmarks for a long long time. Great site for old tv shows.
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I love torrent sites. And this site you linked: http://www.tv-links.co.uk has been in my bookmarks for a long long time. Great site for old tv shows.
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a whole new generation of sites with much more mass appeal are popping up all over.
Trends are a passion of mine. I'll be watching and using this information. Quality post. Thank you.
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Trends are a passion of mine. I'll be watching and using this information. Quality post. Thank you.
no problem....yea this is def going to be a new trend in filesharing

no actual files downloaded, it streams straight from the flash

& its really easy to use....so it will gain a mass public audience very quickly

now the question is...who will pick up the ad space first ?
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