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Ramos · 08-30-2007, 02:02 PM

It's illegal?

That sucks, there was a fisting bar I hit up a few times in the city years ago.

Good shit.

RayBonga · 08-30-2007, 02:04 PM

It's unAmerican not to love a good fisting!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-30-2007, 02:04 PM

What if the fister has really small hands, and the fistee, a really big butt?

ADG

cones · 08-30-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by teenytricia

Why is fisting illegal

and why do they call it the land of the free?

Star 69 · 08-30-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Angie77

I never knew it was illegal?

Because you are newbie

Connor · 08-30-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerco

Where did I say anything like that? I know exactly what COULD happen... so what. It's the chance I have to take for the only option I've been given. My choice. And, until it's definitively stated on the books that what I'm doing is wrong, then what I'm doing IS NOT WRONG.

How is it that fingering at all is even ok... what the fucks the difference between 1 finger... 4 5 8... it's all part of your hand. It's all doing the same thing. Just because party "A" has a bigger hole than party "B" and needs a little more in it, they should be put away... thats the logic here... or lack of. Willing consensual adults, enjoying their body in a way that pleases them should be left the fuck alone... go after some Actual criminals and quit trying to make a criminal out of someone thats not.

Oh don't get me wrong... I have no problem with fisting. If that's what someone wants to do, all parties involved agree... I say, enjoy! I just think there's on display in this thread a lack of understanding of obscenity laws, how they ARE a threat and how the ARE NOT a threat.... and how they work. Hell, even the title of this thread is misinformation.

And for the record... I also think the state of the law is bullshit.

ronaldo · 08-30-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor

Oh don't get me wrong... I have no problem with fisting. If that's what someone wants to do, all parties involved agree... I say, enjoy! I just think there's on display in this thread a lack of understanding of obscenity laws, how they ARE a threat and how the ARE NOT a threat.... and how they work. Hell, even the title of this thread is misinformation.

And for the record... I also think the state of the law is bullshit.

Stop being such a serious ass already and post some of YOUR fisting pics. You know you like it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-30-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Stop being such a serious ass already and post some of YOUR fisting pics. You know you like it.

The Commander-in-Fist:

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DWB · 08-30-2007, 11:13 PM

I had a shit load of one of my DVDs returned from a very large buyer because for TWO SECONDS the guys thumb disappeared. The unwritten rule is, NO THUMBS. During the edit we thought we cut all of that out but you just cant see 100% of his thumb for 2 fucking seconds.

In case you are wondering, we had 2 hands and a cock up an asshole.

Now... it was ok to have 4 fingers from 2 different people AND a huge cock up her ass, but when one of the guys twisted his thumb out of sight for 2 seconds, lord have mercy!!!

bDok · 08-30-2007, 11:26 PM

fisting is mellow.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-31-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I had a shit load of one of my DVDs returned from a very large buyer because for TWO SECONDS the guys thumb disappeared. The unwritten rule is, NO THUMBS. During the edit we thought we cut all of that out but you just cant see 100% of his thumb for 2 fucking seconds.

In case you are wondering, we had 2 hands and a cock up an asshole.

Now... it was ok to have 4 fingers from 2 different people AND a huge cock up her ass, but when one of the guys twisted his thumb out of sight for 2 seconds, lord have mercy!!!

Umm...no picture necessary...

You knows I loves you DWB, but DAYUM, you into some nasty sh*t dude!!!

ADG

Fizzgig · 08-31-2007, 12:34 AM

I never was one who enjoyed that particular niche.

wyldworx · 08-31-2007, 01:13 AM

why would it matter? If you really like to fist then gagging would act as a muting agent.

The Sultan Of Smut · 08-31-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

-No black men-white women themes

LOL WTF century is this anyway?

JP-pornshooter · 08-31-2007, 10:34 AM

i know of atleast one US program who have fisting content on their site, would it be appropriate to mention it here ? this is a respectable program too with big names and hot girls and no hardcore.. just solo and the fisting..

Chroma · 08-31-2007, 10:35 AM

Allegedly, If one was good at getting their fist into their gf, she would hypothetically claim that, "it is the most intense feeling" she had ever had... further, that it forced her to 'orgasm constantly until the fist was removed'. With that big of an object in the vagina, the G-spot, all of the vaginal wall as well as the cervix is constantly stimulated. Any of these areas can produce orgasm when stimulated individually, so obviously the intensity would be increased when all are simultaneous. Add a tongue to the labia and clitoris and her insanity is guaranteed. Female genitalia is amazingly resilient in that even after a fist or even delivering a baby, intercourse still produces friction. However, in the case of fisting, like anal sex or any sex, would obviously have to be consensual, very conscientious on the penetrator's part, slow and WELL lubricated.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-31-2007, 10:46 AM

Would this be considered oral sex to a fister?

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DaddyHalbucks · 08-31-2007, 11:05 AM

Is obscenity an outdated concept?

If you guys were in charge of writing the sex laws, how would they read?

Would everything be OK except CP?

Dirty Dane · 08-31-2007, 11:07 AM

Congress voting on fisting?

ronaldo · 08-31-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Is obscenity an outdated concept?

If you guys were in charge of writing the sex laws, how would they read?

Would everything be OK except CP?

Therein lies the problem. The ONLY sensible and clear cut law that could be written would be making everything that is consensual legal, except CP. As soon as you draw a line in the sand, someone will always try to move it backwards or forwards.

ronaldo · 08-31-2007, 11:38 AM

There are many in the industry who believe that producers like Rob Black and Max Hardcore deserve whatever they get and bring the industry into the feds radar. I used to be one of them. Now I'm thankful that they're standing up to the authorities because if THEY lose, what's next? Interracial? Gangbangs? Gay? It could be something that WE as an industry may deem entirely acceptable, but those OUTSIDE see as obscene. We'd get no sympathy because in their eyes, WE'D be getting what WE deserve.

The definition of obscene is simply too vague because if you put 10 people in a room, you could very well get 10 different answers. If you put the same 10 people in a room, they could all tell you what constitutes murder though...unless of course one of them is a lawyer. (edit-how can a judge give instructions about what's obscene to a jury?)

Community Standards is even more ridiculous. So one day your community deems what we do as acceptable. Then a bunch of the hardcore moral majority move into your neighborhood and it's all of a sudden illegal??

One reason you'll never see a black and white scenario on the books is because the lawyers wouldn't allow it...not even the ones on our side. If they did, they'd be out of work. We'd all know what we could and couldn't do and wouldn't need a high priced attorney on retainer who can spew nothing more than his INTERPRETATION of the law.

riabanana · 08-31-2007, 11:41 AM

That's a whole bunch of crap.

PantiesDropped · 08-31-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

All chicks like a good fisting every now and again...

hahaha...

yeah we do..

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-31-2007, 01:15 PM

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mikesouth · 08-31-2007, 01:19 PM

I am SHOCKED at how many people here do not understanfd the first thing about US Obscenity law

NOTHING is illegal until a jury declares it obscene and you are convicted for it.
period
end of story

CP is the only thing that is "illegal"

Tom_PM · 08-31-2007, 01:42 PM

I mean think of it. You get brought up on obscenity charges because you sold a dvd online to a person who ordered it from their living room in a plain brown box to their mailbox (note: not 1 single person in the community knows a damn thing). Now for some reason, community standards are applied and a jury is *forced* to watch your fetish in the courtroom, and decide FOR YOU if you're allowed to watch it.

Sound fair?

trishauptown · 09-04-2007, 05:54 PM

I actually get hired for fisting job all the time.....I have small hands!! I have been fisted before......it is actually not painful at all.......you take your time and it is ver sensual and erotic. I have done two live fisting shows.......one way back when at the ia2000 show at one of the parties.

DWB · 09-04-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I am SHOCKED at how many people here do not understanfd the first thing about US Obscenity law

NOTHING is illegal until a jury declares it obscene and you are convicted for it.
period
end of story

CP is the only thing that is "illegal"

Isn't it illegal to fuck another man in the ass down in your neck of the woods? I know somewhere down there sodomy is illegal, or at least was not too long ago.

DWB · 09-04-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by trishauptown

I actually get hired for fisting job all the time.....I have small hands!! I have been fisted before......it is actually not painful at all.......you take your time and it is ver sensual and erotic. I have done two live fisting shows.......one way back when at the ia2000 show at one of the parties.

You got fisted in my bed once.

Good times.

Miss ya.

ronaldo · 09-04-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by trishauptown

I have been fisted before

I'm not sure I can believe that without visual proof. Please post video.

Wolfy · 09-04-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by trishauptown

I actually get hired for fisting job all the time.....I have small hands!! I have been fisted before......it is actually not painful at all.......you take your time and it is ver sensual and erotic. I have done two live fisting shows.......one way back when at the ia2000 show at one of the parties.

Wow, that's kind of exactly how I tell girls about anal sex their first time.

I hope they believe me more than I believe you

DWB · 09-04-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

I'm not sure I can believe that without visual proof. Please post video.

I've seen it. Pretty hawt.

ronaldo · 09-04-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I've seen it. Pretty hawt.

Yeah, I actually have too. Took a shot that she'd post something I haven't seen.

Red Ezra · 09-04-2007, 09:08 PM

it's basically a liability - production companies dont shoot it usually because the distributors tell them not to or they won't buy the products - so - if a producer wants to shoot it they can - but - if they want to sell it they can't sell it everywhere - we used to call it the european version because the market isnt as much of a risk for the more extreme content overseas from what I understand - it is always about the sales - legal is a bit of a strange animal and definately best to get a lawyer if it's your ass on the line.

Red Ezra · 09-04-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I am SHOCKED at how many people here do not understanfd the first thing about US Obscenity law

NOTHING is illegal until a jury declares it obscene and you are convicted for it.
period
end of story

CP is the only thing that is "illegal"

well said as usual - and - you shouldn't be so shocked - there are very few that actually have the responsibility to worry about such things - most here are not actually hands on like we are

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I had a shit load of one of my DVDs returned from a very large buyer because for TWO SECONDS the guys thumb disappeared. The unwritten rule is, NO THUMBS. During the edit we thought we cut all of that out but you just cant see 100% of his thumb for 2 fucking seconds. In case you are wondering, we had 2 hands and a cock up an asshole. Now... it was ok to have 4 fingers from 2 different people AND a huge cock up her ass, but when one of the guys twisted his thumb out of sight for 2 seconds, lord have mercy!!!

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ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	There are many in the industry who believe that producers like Rob Black and Max Hardcore deserve whatever they get and bring the industry into the feds radar. I used to be one of them. Now I'm thankful that they're standing up to the authorities because if THEY lose, what's next? Interracial? Gangbangs? Gay? It could be something that WE as an industry may deem entirely acceptable, but those OUTSIDE see as obscene. We'd get no sympathy because in their eyes, WE'D be getting what WE deserve. The definition of obscene is simply too vague because if you put 10 people in a room, you could very well get 10 different answers. If you put the same 10 people in a room, they could all tell you what constitutes murder though...unless of course one of them is a lawyer. (edit-how can a judge give instructions about what's obscene to a jury?) Community Standards is even more ridiculous. So one day your community deems what we do as acceptable. Then a bunch of the hardcore moral majority move into your neighborhood and it's all of a sudden illegal?? One reason you'll never see a black and white scenario on the books is because the lawyers wouldn't allow it...not even the ones on our side. If they did, they'd be out of work. We'd all know what we could and couldn't do and wouldn't need a high priced attorney on retainer who can spew nothing more than his INTERPRETATION of the law. Last edited by ronaldo; 08-31-2007 at 11:40 AM..

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I am SHOCKED at how many people here do not understanfd the first thing about US Obscenity law NOTHING is illegal until a jury declares it obscene and you are convicted for it. period end of story CP is the only thing that is "illegal" __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I mean think of it. You get brought up on obscenity charges because you sold a dvd online to a person who ordered it from their living room in a plain brown box to their mailbox (note: not 1 single person in the community knows a damn thing). Now for some reason, community standards are applied and a jury is forced to watch your fetish in the courtroom, and decide FOR YOU if you're allowed to watch it. Sound fair? __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Red Ezra redezra.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 4,680	it's basically a liability - production companies dont shoot it usually because the distributors tell them not to or they won't buy the products - so - if a producer wants to shoot it they can - but - if they want to sell it they can't sell it everywhere - we used to call it the european version because the market isnt as much of a risk for the more extreme content overseas from what I understand - it is always about the sales - legal is a bit of a strange animal and definately best to get a lawyer if it's your ass on the line.