Fling/HT: why isnt our traffic in your stats? - GoFuckYourself.com

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 07:08 AM

Emailed twice icqd as well: no reply, so maybe this will help.

Ive setup a test to see how Fling converts, send some 100 clicks on Aug 27th, tracked it with advertpro, I know how many clicks we send per hr approx so this kinda surprised me:

138 clicks counted on advertpro
2 clicks on hugetraffic

I thought maybe lagged so I waited for a few days but no still the same. Fyi our servers are in the US so this traffic should be shown on Aug 27th and not 9hrs later or so.

So: Fling, why isnt our traffic in your stats?

Advertpro screenshot

HT Fling screenshot

avolongold · 08-30-2007, 07:12 AM

that is interesting.......

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 07:17 AM

it is

Ive got all the IPs and all dates times those are uniques so they are send, if we send to another program they show up exactly like in our advertpro, not at fling so Id really like to know yes

Iron Fist · 08-30-2007, 08:05 AM

Had the same problem and dropped them like a rock after the first day

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

Had the same problem and dropped them like a rock after the first day

did they ever reply? Ive asked multiple times and no reply, youd think a program like that would get their stats straightened out

chodadog · 08-30-2007, 08:10 AM

Are you a Nasty Dollars or Bang Bros affiliate? Any chance you could be using the linking codes from within those areas instead? I made that mistake when I went to check our Bang Bros stats a while back.

WiredGuy · 08-30-2007, 08:12 AM

I had a similiar problem and was told that the link code I got was slightly off. Turned out the program variable was flipped to tracking hugetraffic instead of bangbros (where I originally signed up for fling). It did lead to all the traffic being mistracked.
WG

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chodadog

Are you a Nasty Dollars or Bang Bros affiliate? Any chance you could be using the linking codes from within those areas instead? I made that mistake when I went to check our Bang Bros stats a while back.

no were not neither of them, we push softcore

this is the url, it works like a charm just hits dont show up

http://www.dutchteencash.com/cgi-bin...ame=178&slot=1

or direct

http://www.fling.com/quicksearch.php...=dutchteencash

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I had a similiar problem and was told that the link code I got was slightly off. Turned out the program variable was flipped to tracking hugetraffic instead of bangbros (where I originally signed up for fling). It did lead to all the traffic being mistracked.
WG

were signed up through hugetraffic yes, dont have a bb account, but it should show up at hugetraffic shouldnt it. It does just a 100 less then weve send.

Iron Fist · 08-30-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

did they ever reply? Ive asked multiple times and no reply, youd think a program like that would get their stats straightened out

No, with the amount of programs out there... I personally think that the one thing a program needs to get right - right from day 1 is accurate click tracking. If a program can't get that right, well, I'm not interested in sending traffic. Looked promising, but i'm too busy to fuck around with e-mailing back and forth....

I like your program though - always sending traffic your way..

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

No, with the amount of programs out there... I personally think that the one thing a program needs to get right - right from day 1 is accurate click tracking. If a program can't get that right, well, I'm not interested in sending traffic. Looked promising, but i'm too busy to fuck around with e-mailing back and forth....

I like your program though - always sending traffic your way..

thanks doing our best

yeah its a shame stats are so off on Fling, were not gonna send traffic there anymore for sure, plus the no support kinda sucks imho.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 12:56 PM

bump for the evening crew

st0ned · 08-30-2007, 01:18 PM

Wow that is crazy. I always felt I was sending more traffic and sales than was being recorded.

fluffygrrl · 08-30-2007, 01:59 PM

Lol, where's the smartass TGP crowd to explain how 100 hits are nothing and you should be thankfull for the two you get.

Boobs · 08-30-2007, 02:02 PM

I just noticed Im having the same problem and I icq'ed them and no answers.

if there are any Fling/Hugetraffic affiliate managers are in this thread please hit me up icq 373 394 868 [email protected]

who · 08-30-2007, 02:02 PM

As I've said before, the only way to be sure you're getting the hits recorded is to go through www.moneycashdollarbucks.com

loreen · 08-30-2007, 02:05 PM

bump for an answer :|

tenderobject · 08-30-2007, 02:07 PM

bump for answer. just noticed mine as well.. although i dont send much traffic but dunno why clicks doesnt show since ive put links trough out my pages. weird

i only get 2 - 7 hits in my stats hehe free joins doesnt convert.

any other alternatives?

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Lol, where's the smartass TGP crowd to explain how 100 hits are nothing and you should be thankfull for the two you get.

it IS nothing but that was a few hours and its only 1 source we could send a shitload more but not if 2 outa 100 turn up in their stats

who · 08-30-2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

it IS nothing but that was a few hours and its only 1 source we could send a shitload more but not if 2 outa 100 turn up in their stats

See if you can repeat this experiment.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

See if you can repeat this experiment.

course I can lemme set it right now ill post stats

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:16 PM

k traffic is send lets wait for a few mins

WiredGuy · 08-30-2007, 02:17 PM

Make sure the html code your using came directly from the webmasters area, don't copy the code from someone else because they may have been sending traffic through nastydollars/bangbrosonline instead of hugetraffic.
WG

JD · 08-30-2007, 02:17 PM

do they count CLICKS or 2nd page uniques. I know ND counts 2nd page uniques for their paysites...

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:17 PM

funny some ppl here clicked the link

1. http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/764691-fling-ht-isnt-traffic-stats.html 4
2. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=764691 2

6 hits

Fling says 2

Pay Per Signup Stats
Site Hits Free Joins* Free Join
Ratio Paid Joins Paid Join
Ratio Earnings
Fling 2 0 n/a 0 n/a $0.00

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

do they count CLICKS or 2nd page uniques. I know ND counts 2nd page uniques for their paysites...

WTF they state 2nd page uniques? then why dont they say that

it says HITS that should even be raw imho

Martin3 · 08-30-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Lol, where's the smartass TGP crowd to explain how 100 hits are nothing and you should be thankfull for the two you get.

Sending crap blind traffic is not the same as sending real banner/link clicked traffic.

Not that anyone expects you to know the difference.

On topic, I also noticed a drop in hits. For me it seems about half but I just restarted sending again 2 days ago after testing another dating site. Had to double check this morning to make sure I hadn't fucked up my link codes or something.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3

Sending crap blind traffic is not the same as sending real banner/link clicked traffic.

Not that anyone expects you to know the difference.

On topic, I also noticed a drop in hits. For me it seems about half but I just restarted sending again 2 days ago after testing another dating site. Had to double check this morning to make sure I hadn't fucked up my link codes or something.

this is a mix, I can turn on and off 404 clicked blind exit whatever

but still ok so what if it IS the worst traffic ever, they still should count it

geeknik · 08-30-2007, 02:37 PM

I've never had a problem with Hugetraffic/Fling.

1:64 for the last 2 weeks.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknik

I've never had a problem with Hugetraffic/Fling.

1:64 for the last 2 weeks.

yes so?

did you ever track how many clicks you send and what they register? this has nothing to do with ratios.

fluffygrrl · 08-30-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

this is a mix, I can turn on and off 404 clicked blind exit whatever

but still ok so what if it IS the worst traffic ever, they still should count it

Hehehe. No, you mean really ?

Martin3 · 08-30-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

this is a mix, I can turn on and off 404 clicked blind exit whatever

but still ok so what if it IS the worst traffic ever, they still should count it

Top part of my post wasn't directed at you, it was for this
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/764638-voyeurpost-com-drama.html

ServerGenius · 08-30-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

yes so?

did you ever track how many clicks you send and what they register? this has nothing to do with ratios.

they advertise or allow advertising on torrent sites....so you're doing yourself a favor by dropping them anyway

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

they advertise or allow advertising on torrent sites....so you're doing yourself a favor by dropping them anyway

damn never knew that yeah well theyre dropped anyhow with this crap

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 02:55 PM

k so I did a 5 mins test again

Top Operating Systems Summary :: August 30, 2007 to August 30, 2007
Operating System Total
Windows NT 28
Mac 3
Windows 2000 1
Windows 98 1

33 clicks advertpro

Pay Per Signup Stats
Site Hits Free Joins* Free Join
Ratio Paid Joins Paid Join
Ratio Earnings
Fling 2 0 n/a 0 n/a $0.00

2 clicks fling

k obviously theyre exit

TeenCat · 08-30-2007, 03:06 PM

jupiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

hope you get your things solved dutch man! ;)

loreen · 08-30-2007, 03:08 PM

I don't know if I should drop them... They still convert better than anything I've tried

cykoe6 · 08-30-2007, 03:15 PM

I believe Fling is only counting 2nd page hits but even then the ratios are pretty good. I make lots of money with them.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6

I believe Fling is only counting 2nd page hits but even then the ratios are pretty good. I make lots of money with them.

they do? where does that say so lemme check

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 03:21 PM

k I checked TOS and searched for unique 2nd page etc I really cant find where it says they count 2nd page only

tranza · 08-30-2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loreen

I don't know if I should drop them... They still convert better than anything I've tried

Maybe because they DON'T COUNT CLICKS CORRECTLY?

A 1:90 conversion means shit when the sponsor is only counting 5% of the traffic.

loreen · 08-30-2007, 03:40 PM

Well, then let me rephrase it: using the same spot on the same site, they make more money than anything else I've tried...

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loreen

Well, then let me rephrase it: using the same spot on the same site, they make more money than anything else I've tried...

yes so?

my car also runs faster then my bike, I mean what youre trying to say? Did you ever track stats, what would you think if it turns out they didnt count 50% of your hits? or more?

Brad Gosse · 08-30-2007, 03:52 PM

I would LOVE to hear why this is happening.

They probably count 25% of the hits I count. I haven't jumped ship because the $$ is good.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

I would LOVE to hear why this is happening.

They probably count 25% of the hits I count. I haven't jumped ship because the $$ is good.

they convert

and $5.25 per confirmed is nice but youre right I see a whole lotta less then the clicks we send, as for now like not even 10%

loreen · 08-30-2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

yes so?

Nothing but my initial question "should I drop them?"...

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loreen

Nothing but my initial question "should I drop them?"...

so youre not droppin them cause sales rock no matter the fact their stats suck and you could make a shitload more if the stats were ok

hmmz

loreen · 08-30-2007, 04:55 PM

I was just wondering...

So, they show 5% from clicks and I have 1:50 and 1000$.
I drop them, I use xx sponsor, I get 100% clicks, 1:3000, 100$...
(just random numbers)

Anyway, hopefully, someone will come with some official answers...

Iron Fist · 08-30-2007, 05:32 PM

Well, what's to say that they're only being dishonest with their click stats? When will it stop or does it stop at just the stats? Guess you'll never know - know things like - do they e-mail your surfer and get them to cross sell and wipe your recurring membership off? Will they change linking codes without telling you? Etc etc...

Symptoms are usually indicative of a much larger underlying problem. Not reporting true click stats is a symptom - I have no clue what they're up to, nor do I care - I decided that since i'm upfront and honest, I'd expect the sponsors I do business with to be the same. If you can sleep at night knowing your being fucked over and only being paid a portion of what your traffic is really worth, then that's cool, but I think I could do better with my traffic than by throwing half or more of it away..

Jace · 08-30-2007, 05:40 PM

this surprises you all? bangbros counts join page hits or some shit like that....I sent them 1k or so hits one day and 8 showed up in the admin.....all the same company aren't they?

08-30-2007, 07:08 AM	#1
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	Fling/HT: why isnt our traffic in your stats? Emailed twice icqd as well: no reply, so maybe this will help. Ive setup a test to see how Fling converts, send some 100 clicks on Aug 27th, tracked it with advertpro, I know how many clicks we send per hr approx so this kinda surprised me: 138 clicks counted on advertpro 2 clicks on hugetraffic I thought maybe lagged so I waited for a few days but no still the same. Fyi our servers are in the US so this traffic should be shown on Aug 27th and not 9hrs later or so. So: Fling, why isnt our traffic in your stats? Advertpro screenshot HT Fling screenshot __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 07:12 AM	#2
avolongold Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 580	that is interesting....... __________________ Get the most out of your MILF or BIG TIT traffic with JUGG CASH!

08-30-2007, 07:17 AM	#3
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	it is Ive got all the IPs and all dates times those are uniques so they are send, if we send to another program they show up exactly like in our advertpro, not at fling so Id really like to know yes __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 08:05 AM	#4
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Had the same problem and dropped them like a rock after the first day __________________ i like waffles

08-30-2007, 08:10 AM	#6
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Are you a Nasty Dollars or Bang Bros affiliate? Any chance you could be using the linking codes from within those areas instead? I made that mistake when I went to check our Bang Bros stats a while back. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

08-30-2007, 08:12 AM	#7
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I had a similiar problem and was told that the link code I got was slightly off. Turned out the program variable was flipped to tracking hugetraffic instead of bangbros (where I originally signed up for fling). It did lead to all the traffic being mistracked. WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-30-2007, 12:56 PM	#12
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	bump for the evening crew __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 01:18 PM	#13
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	Wow that is crazy. I always felt I was sending more traffic and sales than was being recorded. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

08-30-2007, 01:59 PM	#14
fluffygrrl So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,187	Lol, where's the smartass TGP crowd to explain how 100 hits are nothing and you should be thankfull for the two you get.

08-30-2007, 02:02 PM	#15
Boobs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,875	I just noticed Im having the same problem and I icq'ed them and no answers. if there are any Fling/Hugetraffic affiliate managers are in this thread please hit me up icq 373 394 868 [email protected] __________________ Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

08-30-2007, 02:02 PM	#16
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	As I've said before, the only way to be sure you're getting the hits recorded is to go through www.moneycashdollarbucks.com

08-30-2007, 02:05 PM	#17
loreen myadultdesign.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 12,558	bump for an answer :\| __________________ Banners, logos, headers, peels, FHGs, ads, paysites, photo retouching etc: my adult design portfolio My logo portfolio: PornLogos.com

08-30-2007, 02:07 PM	#18
tenderobject Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 11,687	bump for answer. just noticed mine as well.. although i dont send much traffic but dunno why clicks doesnt show since ive put links trough out my pages. weird i only get 2 - 7 hits in my stats hehe free joins doesnt convert. any other alternatives? __________________ NEED DESIGNS?!? Last edited by tenderobject; 08-30-2007 at 02:08 PM..

08-30-2007, 02:16 PM	#22
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	k traffic is send lets wait for a few mins __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 02:17 PM	#23
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Make sure the html code your using came directly from the webmasters area, don't copy the code from someone else because they may have been sending traffic through nastydollars/bangbrosonline instead of hugetraffic. WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-30-2007, 02:17 PM	#24
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	do they count CLICKS or 2nd page uniques. I know ND counts 2nd page uniques for their paysites...

08-30-2007, 02:37 PM	#29
geeknik l337 h4x0r!#% Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: OKC, OK, USA Posts: 8,364	I've never had a problem with Hugetraffic/Fling. 1:64 for the last 2 weeks. __________________ hacker 4 hire.

08-30-2007, 02:55 PM	#35
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	k so I did a 5 mins test again Top Operating Systems Summary :: August 30, 2007 to August 30, 2007 Operating System Total Windows NT 28 Mac 3 Windows 2000 1 Windows 98 1 33 clicks advertpro Pay Per Signup Stats Site Hits Free Joins* Free Join Ratio Paid Joins Paid Join Ratio Earnings Fling 2 0 n/a 0 n/a $0.00 2 clicks fling k obviously theyre exit __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 03:06 PM	#36
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08-30-2007, 03:08 PM	#37
loreen myadultdesign.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 12,558	I don't know if I should drop them... They still convert better than anything I've tried __________________ Banners, logos, headers, peels, FHGs, ads, paysites, photo retouching etc: my adult design portfolio My logo portfolio: PornLogos.com

08-30-2007, 03:15 PM	#38
cykoe6 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,499	I believe Fling is only counting 2nd page hits but even then the ratios are pretty good. I make lots of money with them. __________________ бабки, шлюхи, сила

08-30-2007, 03:21 PM	#40
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	k I checked TOS and searched for unique 2nd page etc I really cant find where it says they count 2nd page only __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-30-2007, 03:40 PM	#42
loreen myadultdesign.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 12,558	Well, then let me rephrase it: using the same spot on the same site, they make more money than anything else I've tried... __________________ Banners, logos, headers, peels, FHGs, ads, paysites, photo retouching etc: my adult design portfolio My logo portfolio: PornLogos.com

08-30-2007, 03:52 PM	#44
Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	I would LOVE to hear why this is happening. They probably count 25% of the hits I count. I haven't jumped ship because the $$ is good. __________________ Free Clipart

08-30-2007, 04:55 PM	#48
loreen myadultdesign.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 12,558	I was just wondering... So, they show 5% from clicks and I have 1:50 and 1000$. I drop them, I use xx sponsor, I get 100% clicks, 1:3000, 100$... (just random numbers) Anyway, hopefully, someone will come with some official answers... __________________ Banners, logos, headers, peels, FHGs, ads, paysites, photo retouching etc: my adult design portfolio My logo portfolio: PornLogos.com

08-30-2007, 05:32 PM	#49
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Well, what's to say that they're only being dishonest with their click stats? When will it stop or does it stop at just the stats? Guess you'll never know - know things like - do they e-mail your surfer and get them to cross sell and wipe your recurring membership off? Will they change linking codes without telling you? Etc etc... Symptoms are usually indicative of a much larger underlying problem. Not reporting true click stats is a symptom - I have no clue what they're up to, nor do I care - I decided that since i'm upfront and honest, I'd expect the sponsors I do business with to be the same. If you can sleep at night knowing your being fucked over and only being paid a portion of what your traffic is really worth, then that's cool, but I think I could do better with my traffic than by throwing half or more of it away.. __________________ i like waffles

08-30-2007, 05:40 PM	#50
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	this surprises you all? bangbros counts join page hits or some shit like that....I sent them 1k or so hits one day and 8 showed up in the admin.....all the same company aren't they?