Serious Thread: Why do you think the US has not been attacked since 9/11?

[scottybuzz]

Right, I am talking about the similar terrorists like al queda etc. Not domestic or something else.

As you know Europe has suffered a few attacks at the hands of these terrorists, yet America has not, yet most of the hatred does lie with the USA ( i think - I am just guessing, I have no idea who these guys hate specifically).

So How come the USA have not been attacked?
A) Top Security have busted them each time they have got close
B) Attacking Europe and other countries is easier because cells can be formed more easily and infiltrating US borders is harder
C) USA got their turn on 9/11 now lets punish others
D) Other - please state

[Blazed]

What attacks on Europe are these?

[Donfoolio]

I would have to say out of the choices you gave best answer is B

It is a lot harder to attack the USA from so far away, not to mention the racism that most regular Arabs deal with here since 2001. a shifty eyed Arab in this country now is like a red flag saying "I'm a terrorist".

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Blazed

What attacks on Europe are these?

Not just europe but you hear of loads of bombs in india by al queada and phillipines, just look in the newspaper its always happening.

but in europe, serious things like... - madrid bombings, london bombings, loadssssssss of foiled plots.

Originally Posted by Donfoolio

I would have to say out of the choices you gave best answer is B

It is a lot harder to attack the USA from so far away, not to mention the racism that most regular Arabs deal with here since 2001. a shifty eyed Arab in this country now is like a red flag saying "I'm a terrorist".

Are arabs a dime a dozen over there? In london for example you would be lucky in some parts to find 1 white to every 10 arabs, so its quite hard to know whos shifty and who is not. Not that I could tell anyway

Yeh that could easily be a very valid reason

[SmokeyTheBear]

if they attack usa's children , the rest of the world will sympathize with the usa, so they first attack the supporters

[D]

Destroying the land of the Apple Pie would mean a worldwide increase in Ice Cream Reserves...

And those reserves might exceed refrigeration capacity.



Nobody likes melty ice cream.





Or how about D) The U.S. is doing enough damage to itself, so why bother?

[DollarKing]

It's all a animal thing!

[After Shock Media]

Easier to attack other countries.

However if we believed a damn thing the administration told us. (remember how many "active" cells that were supposed to be active inside the US?

Guess what they never existed. It was used as a terror attack of our own Government to strip us of more of our rights while the masses were scared shit less. Anyone remember being told to duct tape their houses and shit?

PS no I do not think the Government was behind 9/11. I just think that the current administration took advantage of it instead of using it to build more world peace like they easily could have. Such opportunity does not knock on ones door that often. And yes the world would of supported us if we just attacked Afghanistan and also Saudi Arabia.

[DollarKing]

I'm sick of problems too!

[aico]

D) because 9/11 did it's job of starting the "war on terrorism" no need to attack ourselves again.

[DollarKing]

Originally Posted by aico

D) because 9/11 did it's job of starting the "war on terrorism" no need to attack ourselves again.

Don't worry the job is done already sealed and delivered!

[Blazed]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Not just europe but you hear of loads of bombs in india by al queada and phillipines, just look in the newspaper its always happening.

but in europe, serious things like... - madrid bombings, london bombings, loadssssssss of foiled plots.


Are arabs a dime a dozen over there? In london for example you would be lucky in some parts to find 1 white to every 10 arabs, so its quite hard to know whos shifty and who is not. Not that I could tell anyway

Yeh that could easily be a very valid reason

Ok so minor bombings in London years ago and Madrid not much else..Its not like terrorist attacks have been raining down on Europe.
Sure some parts of London are mainly Arab, but whats more dangerous these places or places in America where it is 100:1 African American to white? Im sure the crime rate, drug rate and overall harmful affect on society is worse in those American areas.

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

As you know Europe has suffered a few attacks at the hands of these terrorists, yet America has not, yet most of the hatred does lie with the USA ( i think - I am just guessing, I have no idea who these guys hate specifically).

Why they want to attack probably varies a little - these were the same people who were supported covertly and otherwise by the US during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (including bin Laden). There are probably background reasons eg - double-crossing blah which will never be public. Osama is well-known to folks in the US government - they probably know more than anyone why he's not a happy boy. One main element is with bin Laden himself - he wants all US footprints out of the Middle East - he seems to feel this is a violation of his "sacred lands".

Why there has not been further attacks? There is no need - all is going their way and the effect of 9/11 and the aftermath has had full effect. Diversions into a "War on Terror" have seriously damaged the US, both on a domestic front, internationally and economically. There are plenty ways to "attack" even now - it is very easy to hit unsuspecting targets (despite bs about "homeland security"). Hard to say, but doubt they actually want to particularly kill US people - unless there is a "need" in their minds - at the moment, can't see the "need" - the 9/11 aftermath is working fine.

[Donfoolio]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Not just europe but you hear of loads of bombs in india by al queada and phillipines, just look in the newspaper its always happening.

but in europe, serious things like... - madrid bombings, london bombings, loadssssssss of foiled plots.


Are arabs a dime a dozen over there? In london for example you would be lucky in some parts to find 1 white to every 10 arabs, so its quite hard to know whos shifty and who is not. Not that I could tell anyway

Yeh that could easily be a very valid reason

Actually no, Arabs are quite rare in the USA. New York for instance has a small amount scattered amongst the 5 boroughs but the other states it is much less if any at all. So seeing an Arab person usually throws an American into a fit of fear or suspicion. Personally I know a few Arabs (local store owners) that are well known in the community and they are normal people just like any immigrant to the USA they are working to live. I neither fear them or suspect them, prejudice is something all non native Americans have dealt with when establishing themselves in this country, it is just the Arab's turn now I guess, sort of like Germans and Japanese around world war 2.

I saw someone earlier posted "D) because 9/11 did it's job of starting the "war on terrorism" no need to attack ourselves again." I somewhat believe that as well. I am no conspiracy theorist but honestly it is a possibility that it may have been known and let by or collaborated with to form control. I totally believe that those in power abuse it and it is fact that this country has been giving up civil liberties for temporary security as of 2001. The easiest way to control any living being is to show it fear and terror then promise it safety if they let you have more control over them. Anyone who thinks that is wrong is sadly part of the problem and a willing sheep deserving to be led to slaughter.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

And yes the world would of supported us if we just attacked Afghanistan and also Saudi Arabia.

What is the justification for attacking Saudi Arabia? What exactly are you going to attack there? There are really no targets to bomb.

Yes, most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. That makes sense though. It is one of the wealthier countries in the middle east. This ensured they would be able to obtain visa's to get into the US and also fit into society once here. They were normal family men with regular jobs. Dropping bombs can't eliminate that kind of threat. Think of them as the white male serial killer who lives in the suburbs. By the time you know who they are, it's already too late.

Those terrorists we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan "so that we don't have to fight them at home"..... These guys are desert nomads living in caves. They couldn't get to the US if they wanted to, and it is unlikely that such losers would be sent here on such an important mission anyway.

If they wanted to attack us but haven't, I'd say the reasons are more like this sort of thing....

- Fear that the Christians will crusade further into the middle east than Iraq and Afghanistan.

- A lack of willing, qualified people agreeing to die as a martyr. (It is believed that not all of the 9/11 hijackers knew they were going to die.)

[DWB]

They only needed to attack the USA once. Look what chaos they have caused us just from that one attack. Look at how we lost a little but of our freedom that day. They wanted a war, and they got one. Now they can pick us apart one man at a time.

They are coming to Iraq from other countries just to fight Americans!!! If you ask me, they already won and we lost. You can't win against an idea.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Blazed

Ok so minor bombings in London years ago and Madrid not much else..Its not like terrorist attacks have been raining down on Europe.

We had an attack a couple of months ago at the Airport in Scotland when they tried to drive a 4x4 through the Airport windows which had propane gas bottles and petrol bombs.they got stuck between the pillars and thank god they did not get in, the 4x4 completly burned out and it did make a mess to the front of the airport.

[DollarKing]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

They only needed to attack the USA once. Look what chaos they have caused us just from that one attack. Look at how we lost a little but of our freedom that day. They wanted a war, and they got one. Now they can pick us apart one man at a time.

They are coming to Iraq from other countries just to fight Americans!!! If you ask me, they already won and we lost. You can't win against an idea.

You can't win in a world like this i know that much whiteboy!
Dosen't matter what your agenda is!

[Donfoolio]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

They only needed to attack the USA once. Look what chaos they have caused us just from that one attack. Look at how we lost a little but of our freedom that day. They wanted a war, and they got one. Now they can pick us apart one man at a time.

They are coming to Iraq from other countries just to fight Americans!!! If you ask me, they already won and we lost. You can't win against an idea.

insightful I agree with you. I think the problem mostly is bloated ego's on the strength of America. Yes America is one of if not the strongest country in the world, with placements all over the world. Militarily the USA is a superpower, but it's people are supposed to be the rulers, not it's representatives. The problem lies in the fact that the people have been subjugated by their representatives and their wits dimmed by the information the government lets through. This will be the failure of this once great country and falling into the hands of a war far worse than World War 2. Sad indeed

[halfpint]

Here is a link to what happened

http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/5813/

[dropped9]

2 reasons....

Iraq


Luck....

[crockett]

Well if you look at the times between their major attacks, it's always several years. I think the war in Afghan did disrupt them somewhat as well. Iraq however has helped their cause in the middle east. So maybe they are concentrating where they can have the most support.

Security is also pretty tough in airports now days and no way after 9/11 will passengers ever sit by again in an airliner hijacking. So I almost think after 9/11 they will almost have to write off any attacks via airliners anytime in the near future.

So for now it's much easier and more effective for them to attack in other places abroad than here in the US. They also don't get the same support from Muslims here in the US as they likely will in Europe or else where.

As much as the extremist hate the US, Muslims in general do very well in this country, because racism isn't as big of a factor as it is elsewhere like say Europe for instance. That means they get very little domestic support here in the US from other Muslims, and that makes attacking inside the US much harder.

So overall I think it's because they likely can't trump the 9/11 attacks and they will have to in another attack. Otherwise they will look like they are getting weaker. So I think in short, they are attacking where they can be the most effective.

[uno]

Yep, they wait years between attacks. 6 isn't much.

[he-fox]

D): because it's easier to attack US troops in Irak?

[DaddyHalbucks]

Perhaps GWB is doing something right.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if they attack usa's children , the rest of the world will sympathize with the usa, so they first attack the supporters

I like that statement, however I dont think they attack britain because we support america, i think they attack us, because we are just as bad as america in how we have attacked and our way of life.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

They only needed to attack the USA once. Look what chaos they have caused us just from that one attack. Look at how we lost a little but of our freedom that day. They wanted a war, and they got one. Now they can pick us apart one man at a time.

They are coming to Iraq from other countries just to fight Americans!!! If you ask me, they already won and we lost. You can't win against an idea.

They only need to,, yes... but im sure more attacks would only make things worse for the US dont you think?

Originally Posted by uno

Yep, they wait years between attacks. 6 isn't much.

Who are they? Alqueda? I would have though they were quite big, and as soon as they were ready they would attack. They have cells galore and the more attacks the better I would have thought.

Originally Posted by he-fox

D): because it's easier to attack US troops in Irak?

Disagree - British have troops in iraq too that get attacked yet cells are being found every 6 months or so. Spain got attacked in madrid and before then they also had troops. 2 examples there.

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Perhaps GWB is doing something right.

I dont see any logic in that statment, then again, I dont see anything logical from you. Ever.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Headless

2 reasons....

Iraq


Luck....

Originally Posted by aico

D) because 9/11 did it's job of starting the "war on terrorism" no need to attack ourselves again.

..

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Perhaps GWB is doing something right.

[Beejeebers]

GWB's plan was to move the fight to another country and hopefully a country far away. Iraq fit the bill and had some added benefits for the USA too. As for why there haven't been anymore attacks, I believe they have crippled the networks. However, they have spawned a whole new generation of little terrorists who watched their parents killed by the us invasion or kidnapped and sent to Cuba.

The future is not good for the US.

[collegeboobies]

If you are serious about this topic, there are twenty or so books you should ready, before asking idiots on GFY.


Secrets of the Kingdom by Posner is a good place to start for Middle East background on hating the US, mainly due to our "friendship" with Saudi Arabia.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by collegeboobies

If you are serious about this topic, there are twenty or so books you should ready, before asking idiots on GFY.


Secrets of the Kingdom by Posner is a good place to start for Middle East background on hating the US, mainly due to our "friendship" with Saudi Arabia.

Thanks, I dunno if I am serious about it enough yet, but its a very sensitive issue.

As this thread has proved, there is certainly not one clear answer

[JamesK2]

Originally Posted by D

Or how about D) The U.S. is doing enough damage to itself, so why bother?

[DaddyHalbucks]

I am afraid the next attack will be a biggie.

[scottybuzz]

Bump for more opinions

[buzzy]

America brought 9/11 upon itself.

But the ovbious answer is because it is so far away and europe is closer. But everyone must remember that it was Saudis who committed 9/11 and not Iraqis or Afghans. Yet the USA still regards saudi arabia as one of it's best allys. I guess oil speaks louder than human lives, but at the end of the day we can't profile people from religion or race - what about the christian organization that was planning to poison a water drinking resoviour to bring the 2nd coming quicker, or the BNP having the biggest illegal weapons depot in the UK ever and it wasnt reported on the news, if it was muslims there would of been an uproar.

Nice thread though.

[EonBlue]

The US hasn't been attacked again since 9/11 probably because Al Qaeda is waiting to get it's hands on the big prize: a nuke.

Then when an American city is nuked guys like Buzzy will be able to sit back and smuggly comment - "well, they got what they deserved".


Either way check these out for some good background info about what is really going on that you won't see or hear on CNN:

Watch this:

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

Read this:

http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-.../dp/0895260786

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

It was used as a terror attack of our own Government to strip us of more of our rights while the masses were scared shit less. Anyone remember being told to duct tape their houses and shit?

PS no I do not think the Government was behind 9/11. I just think that the current administration took advantage of it instead of using it to build more world peace like they easily could have. Such opportunity does not knock on ones door that often.

these dopey conspiracy theories ALMOST sound good until you ask,"to what end?"

at which point the theory falls apart.

[dig420]

Probably the same reasons there were no serious attacks before 9-11. There aren't terrorists around every street corner waiting to kill you, regardless of what Daddy George tells you.

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

The US hasn't been attacked again since 9/11 probably because Al Qaeda is waiting to get it's hands on the big prize: a nuke.

Then when an American city is nuked guys like Buzzy will be able to sit back and smuggly comment - "well, they got what they deserved".


Either way check these out for some good background info about what is really going on that you won't see or hear on CNN:

Watch this:

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

Read this:

http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-.../dp/0895260786

You need to check into a mental hospital. Al Qaeda is an ideology, but thanks for that secret info that Al Qaeda is trying to get a nuke, do you work for them?

Al Qaeda are targetting people EXACTLY like you who fit the sterotypical North american sterotype, the ignorant dumbass that dosen't know fuckall about outside his own country.

You have to look at WHY they attacked you, and if you look at the reasons which there are countless reasons you will see that America did bring it upon itself and only has itself to blame.

Get your head out of the sand, linking to racist and discriminative books dosen't help your cause either.

[dig420]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

these dopey conspiracy theories ALMOST sound good until you ask,"to what end?"

at which point the theory falls apart.

what conspiracy theory? He didn't state a theory, he stated a simple fact. The sky is blue, the grass is green and Republicans exploit fear based on terrorism. Have you ever listened to a Giuliana speech?

[dig420]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

these dopey conspiracy theories ALMOST sound good until you ask,"to what end?"

at which point the theory falls apart.

Are you so scared of the ragheads that you're willing to give up your right to a jury trial? You're willing to give the Govt. the power to snatch you up off the street and hold you forever without trial or even telling anyone where you are, and you'll willingly allow the govt. to tap your phones, monitor what you read and search your house without a warrant or a reason?

Disappointing. I thought you were a REAL man.

[directfiesta]

It took 10 years between both WTC attacks ....

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by dig420

Are you so scared of the ragheads that you're willing to give up your right to a jury trial? You're willing to give the Govt. the power to snatch you up off the street and hold you forever without trial or even telling anyone where you are, and you'll willingly allow the govt. to tap your phones, monitor what you read and search your house without a warrant or a reason?

Disappointing. I thought you were a REAL man.

and then some people spend so much time under their bed that common sense isn't even a distant memory for them anyome.
Diglet, if I ever go to trial, I'll have a Jury. I want my government to kill foriegn terrorists, not give them a trial.
The government will not snatch me off the street and hold me forever without trial nor have they done this to any other American citizen.
And yes, diglet, I'm completely ok with the governmnet listening in on calls made between suspected terrorists outside of our country. Especially when those calls are made into or out of our country.

See Diglet, I see things from the perspective of a citizen of the US watching the government do what I want it to do (however half assed they go about it). You, however, see things from the perspective of a terrorist. why is that?

[buzzy]

Define terrorist?

[dig420]

where you're going wrong Ronnie, is thinking it won't happen to you. Government NEVER voluntarily gives back power once it's seized it, and they ALWAYS abuse it. Read your history. They're already using provisions of the Patriot Act to go after non-terrorist related crime. You think pornographers are immune to this somehow?

[dig420]

Since when did all these macho John Wayne conservatives turn into such bedwetting pro-big government pussies?

Soldiers DIED to give you these freedoms, and you want to give them all back just because you're scared of Arabs?

[eroswebmaster]

What was it...9 years between the first WTC attack and the second?

Man give it some time, it will happen again.

[scottybuzz]

so wtc is the only target in the usa?

come on people think here please. They would want to attack you every day if the could. they dont think hmm, its been 8 years, lets wait another 2, just for the fun of it.

[ADL Colin]

Who wants to try to fly all the way to US with an Arabic surname to blow some shit up for Allah when you can just hop on a bus to Israel?

[12clicks]

sorry diglet. I live in the real world, not the imaginary one.
The government has not taken away ANY of MY rights. stop seeing yourself as the terrorist and you won't feel threatened.