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Old 09-13-2002, 09:16 AM   #1
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Was Hitler the most popular leader in European History?

THE GERMAN NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS MARCH 29th 1936
TOTAL QUALIFIED VOTES 45,453,691
TOTAL VOTES CAST 45,001,489 99.0%
VOTES 'NO' OR INVALID 540,211
VOTES FOR HITLER'S NSDAP 44,461,278 98.8%
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:20 AM   #2
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Hitler was truly skilled.
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He was a genius and a great speaker, he used his power to convince on the people of Germany and quickly became a popular political figure. Judging from these statistics you could say that he was the most popular leader ever, however the election in those years was not held in normal circumstances.
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:25 AM   #4
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THE GERMAN NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS MARCH 29th 1936
TOTAL QUALIFIED VOTES 45,453,691
TOTAL VOTES CAST 45,001,489 99.0%
VOTES 'NO' OR INVALID 540,211
VOTES FOR HITLER'S NSDAP 44,461,278 98.8%
What's your obsession with Hitler?

I think it might be time you cancel the Discovery Channel...
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:29 AM   #5
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What's your obsession with Hitler?

I think it might be time you cancel the Discovery Channel...
What? You are not proud of your European history jammy boy?
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Old 09-13-2002, 09:38 AM   #6
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hitler's still clearly one of the most popular leaders ever. how many leaders have such support even after death? i'd wager it's a handful.
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He was a real genius and obviously he could do the same things now.
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obviously he could do the same things now.
I doubt that, anything that can be labeled "nazi" will be shot down pretty quickly these days.
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why? the nazi term would be widely introduced for 1st time now. Since Bush managed to become US president, having Hitler in our days creating an empire looks piece of cake.
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why? the nazi term would be widely introduced for 1st time now. Since Bush managed to become US president, having Hitler in our days creating an empire looks piece of cake.
Hehe, are you comparing Bush to Hitler?
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why? the nazi term would be widely introduced for 1st time now. Since Bush managed to become US president, having Hitler in our days creating an empire looks piece of cake.

Oh my...Another smart european ass.
I am black american and can tell you, only racism I saw is in Europe. But can not say Greece as I didnt visit that country.
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What racism has to do with the whole topic?
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I am German
My Grandmother is Gypsy and has a nice tattoo from Hitlers Regime.

nuff said

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What racism has to do with the whole topic?
Millions of little Hitlers still live in your EU.
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Oh my...Another smart european ass.
yes


I am black american
everytime you talk to someone do you introduce your skin color?


and can tell you, only racism I saw is in Europe.
no comments


But can not say Greece as I didnt visit that country.
be my guest
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Hitler was a fool, and not even close to being a genius. The only geniuses in Nazi Germany were his generals. As long as Hitler listened to his generals he had victories. Once he started to believe his own propaganda and didn't listen to his generals the war was lost.

Hitler was a good orator, that's it. He was at the right place at the right time and was lucky enough to be surrounded by geniuses. But Hitler himself was no genius.
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manga,are you black?
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lol, you dont play fair
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I would say in contemporary history.
i think:

- Ancient history: Julius Caesar or Alexander The Great
- Middle Ages: Charlemagne
- Modern History: Napoleon
- Contemporary History: Hitler
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Besides, i dont recall any elections in the date you say. The NSDAP was in power since 1933 and there was no need for further elections.

The last election i recall in NS germany was in August 19, 1934 Plebiscite allows Hitler to combine Chancellorship and Presidency.
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Besides, i dont recall any elections in the date you say. The NSDAP was in power since 1933 and there was no need for further elections.

The last election i recall in NS germany was in August 19, 1934 Plebiscite allows Hitler to combine Chancellorship and Presidency.

http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/ahpopular.htm
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http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/ahpopular.htm
LOL, that doesnt seem a trustfully source dont you think? If you want to talk about history you need to have your sources straight.
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first of all i am not a black and hitlers troops never come to my country

what i can say what manga says are true but not completely

he has the most genius generals you can find in whole world history at same time

his generals see what motorized troops can do.

What hitler done good is selecting true generals in true time.

But also why he losses is he never listen his generals when he begin to lose. He started to thing he is god or something like that.

Napoleon(sorry if wrote it wrong) made same mistake in past never never never go to russia in winter.




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Hitler was a fool, and not even close to being a genius. The only geniuses in Nazi Germany were his generals. As long as Hitler listened to his generals he had victories. Once he started to believe his own propaganda and didn't listen to his generals the war was lost.

Hitler was a good orator, that's it. He was at the right place at the right time and was lucky enough to be surrounded by geniuses. But Hitler himself was no genius.
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Look just like Skinheads except they are Romanian, they hate whites and beat up white kids and rape white girls.

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Hitler was a fool, and not even close to being a genius. The only geniuses in Nazi Germany were his generals. As long as Hitler listened to his generals he had victories. Once he started to believe his own propaganda and didn't listen to his generals the war was lost.

Hitler was a good orator, that's it. He was at the right place at the right time and was lucky enough to be surrounded by geniuses. But Hitler himself was no genius.
Pretty much hit the nail on the head. By the way you European, America bashing assholes, kiss my royal American ass, you owe your existence to the USA, because Russia would own your ass if it wasn't for the USA. Ungrateful MF's.
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. By the way you European, America bashing assholes, kiss my royal American ass, you owe your existence to the USA, because Russia would own your ass if it wasn't for the USA. Ungrateful MF's.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It never ends

The constant stream of americans who have me in stitches with comments like that

I was laughing so hard, I fell off my chair!
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. By the way you European, America bashing assholes, kiss my royal American ass, you owe your existence to the USA, because Russia would own your ass if it wasn't for the USA. Ungrateful MF's.
Pathfinder,

Why do you keep repeating yourself?
I guess your memory is still not what it used to be?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It never ends

The constant stream of americans who have me in stitches with comments like that

I was laughing so hard, I fell off my chair!
Dumb fuck, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War. Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by Amercia, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years. Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA. This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.

None of you European, America bashers can dispute the truth of the statement above. I will not respond to what you consider to be funny wise assed comments about the statement above, so forget it.
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Pathfinder,

Why do you keep repeating yourself?
I guess your memory is still not what it used to be?
I am not Pathfinder, but unlike yourself Pathfinder was an intelligent person. I have stated and will restate, I know Pathfinder has passed on.
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. By the way you European, America bashing assholes, kiss my royal American ass, you owe your existence to the USA, because Russia would own your ass if it wasn't for the USA. Ungrateful MF's.
What you seem to forget is the UK paid for every gun, bullet and plane we had from the US. You wrote off the debt Germany had built up. And you only came into it after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour and we supported your war in the Pacific.

Look at who sold Hitler steel to build his Panzers. The US owes a lot of it's success to the second world war.

Remember it was World War 2 not European War 1
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What you seem to forget is the UK paid for every gun, bullet and plane we had from the US. You wrote off the debt Germany had built up. And you only came into it after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour and we supported your war in the Pacific.

Look at who sold Hitler steel to build his Panzers. The US owes a lot of it's success to the second world war.

Remember it was World War 2 not European War 1
Sorry Charly but I was not speaking about the Second World War but this that was posted above.

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Dumb fuck, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War. Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by Amercia, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years. Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA. This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.

None of you European, America bashers can dispute the truth of the statement above. I will not respond to what you consider to be funny wise assed comments about the statement above, so forget it.
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Dumb fuck, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War. Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by Amercia, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years. Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA. This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.

None of you European, America bashers can dispute the truth of the statement above. I will not respond to what you consider to be funny wise assed comments about the statement above, so forget it.
uh-huh-huh

stop making me laugh

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Was it to save the world that the US spent trillions of dollars, protecting paddy fields from the dirty rotten commies from the North Vietnam? You could have bought the entire country for 10% of what you spent and not lost a single man.

And they were protecting a despot who ruled the south.

The arms race was the biggest con the world has known. Both populations were tricked into spending a fortune to build weapons, so that the arms makers could prosper.
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What you seem to forget is the UK paid for every gun, bullet and plane we had from the US. You wrote off the debt Germany had built up. And you only came into it after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour and we supported your war in the Pacific.

Look at who sold Hitler steel to build his Panzers. The US owes a lot of it's success to the second world war.

Remember it was World War 2 not European War 1
It is useless to present him simple historical facts, he will not accept them. His misplaced pride stimulates his delusional behavior and his lack of selfworth.
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Don't capitalise his name!

He's obviously a fuckwad ... and isn't worth the extra effort it takes to press 'shift'!
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Was it to save the world that the US spent trillions of dollars, protecting paddy fields from the dirty rotten commies from the North Vietnam? You could have bought the entire country for 10% of what you spent and not lost a single man.

And they were protecting a despot who ruled the south.

The arms race was the biggest con the world has known. Both populations were tricked into spending a fortune to build weapons, so that the arms makers could prosper.
I am sorry Charly, I did not know that you were of the same mind set as Massivecock, so I will not respond to ridiculous statements. I will provide you with a link that was provided by Massivecock. If you have a couple of hours you will probably enjoy it because it is full of conspiracy bullshit. I listened to the whole thing and found it amusing, but you will probably find truth. Go for it.

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/the...nny__34kbps_.rm
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PAGE NOT FOUND!
You can go to our homepage, browse our newswire, or look at our current news features

Looks like a conspiracy to me

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I am not trying to convince TK, there are lots of people reading this board besides him. Never let a bigot speak unopposed or we will end up in the situation in 1939. Has anyone thought that those figures might have been slightly rigged?

Hitler came to power in a country where someone would steal a wheel barrow of money, taking the wheel barrow and leaving the money. He was used by the industialists and Generals to rebuild Germany.

However the puppet got too powerful and in the end they feared him. He used hate and prejudice to unite people to his own ends, that tool is still be used today and we must be on our guard.

Being American, English or Eskimo should not hide us from the truth, we are first humans and inhabitors of a small planet we call the Earth. We should live together and not look for why we're different, but seek out what we have in common.

*Getting off "Hippy" soap box*
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Looks like a conspiracy to me

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I am not trying to convince TK, there are lots of people reading this board besides him. Never let a bigot speak unopposed or we will end up in the situation in 1939. Has anyone thought that those figures might have been slightly rigged?

Hitler came to power in a country where someone would steal a wheel barrow of money, taking the wheel barrow and leaving the money. He was used by the industialists and Generals to rebuild Germany.

However the puppet got too powerful and in the end they feared him. He used hate and prejudice to unite people to his own ends, that tool is still be used today and we must be on our guard.

Being American, English or Eskimo should not hide us from the truth, we are first humans and inhabitors of a small planet we call the Earth. We should live together and not look for why we're different, but seek out what we have in common.

*Getting off "Hippy" soap box*
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/the_...ny__34kbps_.rm

Try this.
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Old 09-13-2002, 12:50 PM   #43
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Being American, English or Eskimo should not hide us from the truth, we are first humans and inhabitors of a small planet we call the Earth. We should live together and not look for why we're different, but seek out what we have in common.
Multicutluralism.

Funny how its only whitey that is forced to practice it.

Take your speech to Saudi Arabia and give it and see what happens. Take it to China and see what happens. Take it to Rwanda and they will drag you naked through the streets behind a jeep.

Multiculturalism is a joke.

In 200 years this theory of multiculturalism will be blamed for the deaths of Europe and the United States.

When it gets bad, the rahowa will come. But it may be too late by then.
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:04 PM   #44
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Multiculturalism is a joke.

In 200 years this theory of multiculturalism will be blamed for the deaths of Europe and the United States.

When it gets bad, the rahowa will come. But it may be too late by then.
rahowa? yet another pathetic attempt to rape nietzsche by second handing him? you know, he dumped his best friend wagner because of all that nazi shit.

"above all, do not mistake me for someone else."

Creativity is rooted in individuality, not racial collectivism.
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:07 PM   #45
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The term rahowa predates matt hale and the wcotc. Bone up on your lefty rhetoric.

It will come. Hopefully soon.
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:11 PM   #46
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The term rahowa predates matt hale and the wcotc. Bone up on your lefty rhetoric.

It will come. Hopefully soon.
Don't need it, I'm anti-political. Groupthink makes me go elsewhere. I hate the left, the right, and the middle.
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Don't need it, I'm anti-political. Groupthink makes me go elsewhere. I hate the left, the right, and the middle.
You proved what side you sympathize with when you called me a nazi and used it in a derogatory manner. Tell me about your diet and your musical tastes.
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:28 PM   #48
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I agree, some of the biggest racist and hate mongers are the first to accuse everyone else.

But because they practise hate is not an excuse for us to. Though we have to be on guard and punish those that take advantage of us.

If Clinton had been stronger we may not of had 9/11. Who knows?
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THE GERMAN NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS MARCH 29th 1936
TOTAL QUALIFIED VOTES 45,453,691
TOTAL VOTES CAST 45,001,489 99.0%
VOTES 'NO' OR INVALID 540,211
VOTES FOR HITLER'S NSDAP 44,461,278 98.8%



That poll was like any vote ever carried out in a dictatorship.... ie soviet union etc... u got no choice.

The last free elections in germany prior to the war were in 1933 when the Nazis actually lost votes in comparison to prior elections. However because of the german proportional representation system, the Nazis were needed by the right to keep the communist out of power.

And that, my friends, is that.
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Your subject line is a bit out of whack as well.

I doubt that if you polled the entire population of Europe at that time that the majority would be pro-Hitler.

It may be possible that he had the largest majority of votes for any single country in Europe but doubtful that he is the most popular leader in Europe as a whole of all time.
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