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Old 10-14-2007, 12:54 PM   #101
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I see PDC in your resume along with some other telcos. I thought they had DDA doing their initial/secondary distribution? I worked in directories and distribution..the likes of Verizon/Frontier for MANY years in my past life. Those companies you listed are involved in Yellow Pages. So you are saying you delivered phonebooks on initial distribution by contract with these publishers? They don't contract out to companies outside of YPPA for a multitude of reasons. DDA handle a lot of distribution contracts.. and then hires folks off the street to hand deliver the phonebooks on initial.
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I see PDC in your resume along with some other telcos. I thought they had DDA doing their initial/secondary distribution? I worked in directories and distribution..the likes of Verizon/Frontier for MANY years in my past life. Those companies you listed are involved in Yellow Pages. So you are saying you delivered phonebooks on initial distribution by contract with these publishers? They don't contract out to companies outside of YPPA for a multitude of reasons. DDA handle a lot of distribution contracts.. and then hires folks off the street to hand deliver the phonebooks on initial.
DDA has several contracts with the publishers as does PDC. Both of them do about the same thing. Secondary distribution is almost always done by USPS using PVDSs at DDU rates anymore. A significant portion of the initial distribution in some markets is accomplished that way as well and towards the end that is all I would do is mailings. If the book is very small, it goes DSCF and I never got to touch those cause they went from the plant directly to the delivery unit.

The intial distribution is usually outsourced to places like DDA/PDC who hire people off the street to work as independent contractors. YB still does most of theirs directly, except in a few states, they have vendored that out now, the vast majority of my work was done with them. PDC is a bunch of assholes, I did not extend my arrangement with them beyond the initial project.

They contracted to my company as a large crew. At the height of it, I had four rental vans running crews of two each plus my van and my assistant. Ten people, 10K books a day at about $0.40 per book. Thats $4,000 a day. I got my drivers from a staffing agency, the assistants from the local homeless shelters for $50 a day and away it went. Then if I had managed to snag the mailing project, which sometimes paid several thousand dollars itself, I'd go do that while everyone else was out running routes.

Make friends with the distribution people, make yourself useful a couple of times, put a couple of people under you in rental vans and pretty soon you can start negotiating your rate higher than what they publish or offer to anyone else. I have gotten as high as $0.80 a book, the vast majority being about half that, and I can throw 2,000 books in a day easy single handed.

I have not fucked with books for a couple of years now, aside from the occasional mailing project here and there. Sometimes I do recycle runs for YB and warehouse cleanouts of back stock, only because I can double dip. Getting paid to clean out the warehouse, then I turn around and broker the scrap paper to the mills by the truck load. Anymore, I make more money running my other ventures - not worth the hassles of dealing with the YB empire which has gotten hard to deal with these last few years.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:34 AM   #105
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DDA has several contracts with the publishers as does PDC. Both of them do about the same thing. Secondary distribution is almost always done by USPS using PVDSs at DDU rates anymore. A significant portion of the initial distribution in some markets is accomplished that way as well and towards the end that is all I would do is mailings. If the book is very small, it goes DSCF and I never got to touch those cause they went from the plant directly to the delivery unit.

The intial distribution is usually outsourced to places like DDA/PDC who hire people off the street to work as independent contractors. YB still does most of theirs directly, except in a few states, they have vendored that out now, the vast majority of my work was done with them. PDC is a bunch of assholes, I did not extend my arrangement with them beyond the initial project.

They contracted to my company as a large crew. At the height of it, I had four rental vans running crews of two each plus my van and my assistant. Ten people, 10K books a day at about $0.40 per book. Thats $4,000 a day. I got my drivers from a staffing agency, the assistants from the local homeless shelters for $50 a day and away it went. Then if I had managed to snag the mailing project, which sometimes paid several thousand dollars itself, I'd go do that while everyone else was out running routes.

Make friends with the distribution people, make yourself useful a couple of times, put a couple of people under you in rental vans and pretty soon you can start negotiating your rate higher than what they publish or offer to anyone else. I have gotten as high as $0.80 a book, the vast majority being about half that, and I can throw 2,000 books in a day easy single handed.

I have not fucked with books for a couple of years now, aside from the occasional mailing project here and there. Sometimes I do recycle runs for YB and warehouse cleanouts of back stock, only because I can double dip. Getting paid to clean out the warehouse, then I turn around and broker the scrap paper to the mills by the truck load. Anymore, I make more money running my other ventures - not worth the hassles of dealing with the YB empire which has gotten hard to deal with these last few years.
I remember being at a YP convention some time ago and the chairman of PDC got up and started going off on all the big bells for some stupid shit... and the recycle runs are a hoot too. We used to piggy-back on Verizon's 18 wheelers packed to the brim with overprints. What a joke.. everyone thinks they are "Recycling" when in fact they are just dumping them in the landfill.. the glue in the bindings render the books unrecyclable.and fuck DDA.. fuckers stole my job as Frontier outsourced all secondary to those idiots. Interesting... well that was off topic for thread. Lmao. .. and I was on that list... If someone wants to use my exbankrupt, ex-felon/prisoner ass ID for something.. good luck on getting any approvals anywhere.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:19 PM   #108
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How fucking ironic is this? Minusonebit uses 300 webmaster passwords as blog content and simply says "that won't do any harm" and then i read this on his website:

http://www.keithkimmel.com/legal.shtml

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I like to hold companies accountable for their unlawful actions when their actions cause me and/or the general public to suffer, especially when it comes to privacy and fraud. This page is dedicated to some of the legal actions that I have filed and some of the successes I have had.
Kimmel v Ulrey Foods d/b/a Flyers Pizza:

This action was commenced on February 15, 2005 and sought a declaratory judgment under Ohio Revised Code 1349.18 et seq. to have the act of printing more than the last five digits of a credit card account number and/or printing the expiration date on a receipt given to a customer to be a violation of the The Ohio Consumer Sales Protection Act (OCSPA). This precedent setting case allows consumers statewide to bring a suit against any company who prints such receipts. This is on file at Ohio Attorney General's Office in the Public Inspection file. PIF #2342.
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How fucking ironic is this? Minusonebit uses 300 webmaster passwords as blog content and simply says "that won't do any harm" and then i read this on his website:

http://www.keithkimmel.com/legal.shtml

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This action was commenced on February 15, 2005 and sought a declaratory judgment under Ohio Revised Code 1349.18 et seq. to have the act of printing more than the last five digits of a credit card account number and/or printing the expiration date on a receipt given to a customer to be a violation of the The Ohio Consumer Sales Protection Act (OCSPA). This precedent setting case allows consumers statewide to bring a suit against any company who prints such receipts. This is on file at Ohio Attorney General's Office in the Public Inspection file. PIF #2342.
This point (if it could be called that) has already been "made" like ten fucking times now, you idiot. Do you have anything else? My blog is better than your posts. At least I offer my readers a different news item in each post.
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This point (if it could be called that) has already been "made" like ten fucking times now, you idiot. Do you have anything else? My blog is better than your posts. At least I offer my readers a different news item in each post.
So you never answered why you have no problems sharing 300 passwords but you cry like a little baby when your privacy is out in the open. Why dont you explain you dumb fucking cunt?
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I love it how the half the board after reading these threads thinks you are a fucking imbecile. I'll keep bumping them till the other half also reads it. I will bump it for as long as you are on this board.
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I love it how the half the board after reading these threads thinks you are a fucking imbecile.
everything gets forgottten immediately on this board

best example - minusonebit apparently sold his sig recently to BoyAlley

if half of the board thinks he's retarded as you say, then why did someone buy his sig?
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if half of the board thinks he's retarded as you say, then why did someone buy his sig?
Think really hard about what you just said for a minute.
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How fucking ironic is this? Minusonebit uses 300 webmaster passwords as blog content and simply says "that won't do any harm" and then i read this on his website:

http://www.keithkimmel.com/legal.shtml

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This action was commenced on February 15, 2005 and sought a declaratory judgment under Ohio Revised Code 1349.18 et seq. to have the act of printing more than the last five digits of a credit card account number and/or printing the expiration date on a receipt given to a customer to be a violation of the The Ohio Consumer Sales Protection Act (OCSPA). This precedent setting case allows consumers statewide to bring a suit against any company who prints such receipts. This is on file at Ohio Attorney General's Office in the Public Inspection file. PIF #2342.
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These were passwords from epass or some where else?
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These were passwords from epass or some where else?
No, from another program but it turned out there are people using the same passes for everything really. Soon after this there was a post showing "hacked" Epass accounts. But i think the damage was way bigger than that knowing what kind of scum hangs around here. The thing is i think most people on that list dont even know about it and simply one day find their sponsor payments changed or a server hacked or an Epass account emptied without having a clue how that happened.

Well, for sure it wasnt because of Minusonebrain, because he didnt do any harm by posting that shit
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it was for security though Franck!!!
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This thread still isn't going anywhere. Come on Franck, at four pages now and all you have managed to do is post my resume and bitch. You really suck at creating drama, you know?
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This thread still isn't going anywhere. Come on Franck, at four pages now and all you have managed to do is post my resume and bitch. You really suck at creating drama, you know?
No no, with every bump there are new people who learn about you.
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No no, with every bump there are new people who learn about you.
Learn about me?
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i met the intensecash guys at Internext in Miami this past August, nice guys

i never sent them traffic yet, i meant to, but now with involvement with minusonebrain i wont start to send them the traffic i intended to
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First off, the fuckhead you refer to in the second post, had my GFY nick jacked thanks to this fucking list. As Darkhorse as already mentioned, someone used info and had some fun with his account. Look back over my posts and you will realize that this was not me. I do not get into the middle of all this drama. My info was comprimised as well, and I have just last night come to find this out. I will be checking my credit reports today and pressing legal action if any fraud is discovered.

Comments made by this asshole who hacked my nick about epass is bullshit, as Mayor's Money (which is my biggest money maker right now) sends me all my money that way. Don't worry, that is NOT the same pass of the ones used for the programs.

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Even though Minusonebit is a fuckhead, he is NOT the only one to blame here...

Here's the fuckhead that started it all by giving others a way to find the cached page in google:
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/772961-holy-fuck-password-info-safe-wrong.html

Here's the fuckhead who actualy copied the whole list word for word and posted it on GFY, BREAKING A MAJOR GFY RULE JUST FOR THREAD VIEWS, and he's still not banned:
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/773076-traffichangar-google-cache-drama-2007-a.html

And here's the fuckhead who actually took the list and allegedly emptied out epass accounts, and he is also apparently not banned:
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/773087-traffichangar-google-cache-epass-account-draining-starts.html


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First off, the fuckhead you refer to in the second post, had my GFY nick jacked thanks to this fucking list. As Darkhorse as already mentioned, someone used info and had some fun with his account. Look back over my posts and you will realize that this was not me. I do not get into the middle of all this drama. My info was comprimised as well, and I have just last night come to find this out. I will be checking my credit reports today and pressing legal action if any fraud is discovered.

Comments made by this asshole who hacked my nick about epass is bullshit, as Mayor's Money (which is my biggest money maker right now) sends me all my money that way. Don't worry, that is NOT the same pass of the ones used for the programs.
If thats the case i take my words back. I called you an imbecile about 10 times.

And still Minusonebrain thinks he didnt do any damage

Im not sure why hes still lying. I mean, he, me and everybody else knows better. Why doesnt he drop the attitude and simply say "i'm sorry, i fucked up, im a hypocrite moron" so we can get let this go.
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What?

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Lets cry some more Dirty Franck, you fucking idiot.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:27 AM   #143
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Thank you for keeping this scumbag thread alive so the occasional reader can find it.
Minusonebite you are minus a whole lot more than a bite. Your excuses read to me as follows:
"Oh mommy! It was not my fault they left their passwords out and they jumped onto my blog! Blame them from being stupid mommy and not me for publishing them! After all I am just a small child and they are adults and accountable for my actions! Oh yeah and that car that I stole yesterday mommy, the guy left his keys in it! How can you possibly blame me...?"
What you did was wrong and irresponsible, and surely due to some lack of early training in social morality and human decency.
I am not your mother (thank god) and do not accept that excuse.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:34 AM   #144
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:16 AM   #145
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If thats the case i take my words back. I called you an imbecile about 10 times.

And still Minusonebrain thinks he didnt do any damage

Im not sure why hes still lying. I mean, he, me and everybody else knows better. Why doesnt he drop the attitude and simply say "i'm sorry, i fucked up, im a hypocrite moron" so we can get let this go.
I agree with you that this situation was not handled correctly. The facts could have been reported without a link to the google page.

As a sidenote, I have pulled credit reports and all looks okay as of now.

The amount of risk that this put all the webmasters listed in is inexcusable. it was childish and stupid.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:21 AM   #146
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Thank you for keeping this scumbag thread alive so the occasional reader can find it.
Minusonebite you are minus a whole lot more than a bite. Your excuses read to me as follows:
"Oh mommy! It was not my fault they left their passwords out and they jumped onto my blog! Blame them from being stupid mommy and not me for publishing them! After all I am just a small child and they are adults and accountable for my actions! Oh yeah and that car that I stole yesterday mommy, the guy left his keys in it! How can you possibly blame me...?"
What you did was wrong and irresponsible, and surely due to some lack of early training in social morality and human decency.
I am not your mother (thank god) and do not accept that excuse.
Dirty Franck supports content theft. Consider the source you stupid fucking newbie.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:56 AM   #147
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I agree with you that this situation was not handled correctly. The facts could have been reported without a link to the google page.

As a sidenote, I have pulled credit reports and all looks okay as of now.

The amount of risk that this put all the webmasters listed in is inexcusable. it was childish and stupid.
glad that our efforts to keept his thread alive have gotten it infront of your eyes so you knew what was going on, and that nothing happened to ya

bump for more people who arn't on GFY 24/7
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:40 PM   #148
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He made things worse..
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:46 PM   #149
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let people read this.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:47 PM   #150
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Someone remind me what we are all crying about again. I forgot.
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