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Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 01:22 PM

Being from Sweden, I'm used to fucked up tax policies, but this one is even more insane than usual.

Got a letter today from the Swedish IRS. They've been looking into our biz for a few weeks now. According to them, we must pay VAT for all memberships sold to our paysites to european citizens.

My question now is: Is there anyone here doing this? From any european country? Please help and respond either way.

And, before you ask, of course we pay income tax on all money earned by the company. This is just the VAT I'm talking about here on the memberships to our sites, not sirtes we are affiliates to.

Thanks for your help.

Sexy Rex · 10-10-2007, 01:28 PM

We're in France and we're paying VAT on EU customers.
US companies selling memberships to EU customers should also pay VAT to EU acording to EU laws. They don't have a way to enforce it outside EU so they focus on companies in their reach I guess.

Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 01:32 PM

This was complete news for me... How much VAT do you pay?

u-Bob · 10-10-2007, 01:37 PM

21 %

Theo · 10-10-2007, 01:38 PM

incorp abroad

Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 01:48 PM

Fuck... Our accountant had no idea about this, and neither did the Swedish IRS when I asked them a few years back.

I always thought this went under "services" and was excluded from VAT.

justsexxx · 10-10-2007, 01:52 PM

When you sell memberships to EU citizens you should pay VAT yes...That sucks ass. Means it will cost you 20% or so on your EU memberships.

Payserve for example pays me VAT too(which I have to pay myself to the tax as well tho)

CIVMatt · 10-10-2007, 01:53 PM

America isn't looking so bad now afterall is it

Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt

America isn't looking so bad now afterall is it

Lol, have never said America was bad, lots of things I love with your country and lots of things I don't like. Same as with Sweden even though I prefer to live here

Dirty F · 10-10-2007, 02:02 PM

Anna

MaDalton · 10-10-2007, 02:05 PM

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Theo · 10-10-2007, 02:05 PM

Anna

Dirty F · 10-10-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Anna

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Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

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Franck and

Soul_Rebel

Well, I guess those bastards are right then Could have told me this back in 2005 instead of now though. That's quite a lot of money they'll be getting now

borked · 10-10-2007, 02:35 PM

Yeah, VAT needs paying on all Euro signups from EU companies.
19.6% in France

You're selling a service in Europe to European customers, so local VAT needs collecting.
Incorporate your business outside the EU to avoid...

ronbotx · 10-10-2007, 02:56 PM

Aww.. poor little socialist upset with the high taxes. If you expect your government to take care of you from cradle to grave and provide all these wonderful "FREE" services, like rationed, universal health care...somebodys got to pay

Whats's the problem?

After Shock Media · 10-10-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Aww.. poor little socialist upset with the high taxes. If you expect your government to take care of you from cradle to grave and provide all these wonderful "FREE" services, like rationed, universal health care...somebodys got to pay

Whats's the problem?

She doesnt seem all upset about the tax, she seems upset that nobody told her about it before hand.

GT-Omar · 10-10-2007, 03:08 PM

Hey Anna sent you an ICQ

Violetta · 10-10-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Aww.. poor little socialist upset with the high taxes. If you expect your government to take care of you from cradle to grave and provide all these wonderful "FREE" services, like rationed, universal health care...somebodys got to pay

Whats's the problem?

ronbotx · 10-10-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

Sorry but there's a six month waiting list for that anal exam....

Anna_O · 10-10-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx

Aww.. poor little socialist upset with the high taxes. If you expect your government to take care of you from cradle to grave and provide all these wonderful "FREE" services, like rationed, universal health care...somebodys got to pay

Whats's the problem?

Who said I'm a socialist? I vote to the right, not to the left. Anyway, as ASM so kindly pointed out, I'm mostly upset that nobody told us about it.

Omar, having ICQ problems but trying to connect now.

dazzato · 10-10-2007, 03:42 PM

move to switzerland

we have only 7.6% VAT and we have tax deals with EU

so you are safe

10-10-2007, 03:44 PM

in the Netherlands it is 20%, was 19%

Diligent · 10-10-2007, 04:31 PM

Anna, there's a minimum turnover (omsättning) You have to reach before You have to register for, and collect, VAT... make sure to check that with SKV to begin with!

Unfortunately, it looks like You're in for the highest VAT we have in Sweden; 25%
(there are 3 levels I think, depending on what goods/services are sold; 6%, 12% and 25%).

10-10-2007, 01:22 PM	#1
Anna_O Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,773	My government wants us to pay VAT on our memberships... EU webmasters inside please. Being from Sweden, I'm used to fucked up tax policies, but this one is even more insane than usual. Got a letter today from the Swedish IRS. They've been looking into our biz for a few weeks now. According to them, we must pay VAT for all memberships sold to our paysites to european citizens. My question now is: Is there anyone here doing this? From any european country? Please help and respond either way. And, before you ask, of course we pay income tax on all money earned by the company. This is just the VAT I'm talking about here on the memberships to our sites, not sirtes we are affiliates to. Thanks for your help. __________________ Fetish by Anna Paysite - Nylons Bondage Latex Lesbians Glamour Annas Dungeon - 70k / day Fetish TGP ICQ 246797915

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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	in the Netherlands it is 20%, was 19% Last edited by ThumbLord; 10-10-2007 at 03:44 PM.. Reason: typo

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