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Old 10-16-2007, 03:25 PM   #1
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The Unseen China

Part 1 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=TOas6eP9_Ao
In this thirty-minute documentary we propose to look at how China's one billion unseen ordinary citizens has been affected by China's economic transition. And we show that corruption in economic reforms has left many Chinese poor and angry.

Part 2 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=bWQyVmP_tWA
We follow labor researcher Zhang Yaozu as he visits laid-off workers in northeast China, once the nation's industrial hub and now due to the privatization of state-owned enterprises called China's Rust Belt.

Part 3 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=TltnQoR9uhw
Zhang Yaozu spends a night with a laid-off worker family, and listens to their complaints and concerns. The next morning he visits farmers who've lost their land to greedy developers and corrupt officials.

Part 4 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=kxUZIG0Eea4
Using the 2008 Olympics as pre-text Beijing officials have forcibly evicted hundreds of thousands of Beijing residents from their homes. We talk to one such resident Jia Zeshu who's fighting City Hall.

Part 5 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=xfJFjtTexrQ
One resident Yang Honglin is about to lose his wife because of Beijing's eviction process.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:30 PM   #2
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That's what happens when you have government controlling everything.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:44 PM   #3
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:04 PM   #4
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:05 PM   #5
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Why does everyone omit the word Communist when talking about Communist China?
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:44 PM   #7
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:46 PM   #8
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I find documentaries about the USA way more frightening.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:22 PM   #9
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I guess this is what China calls progresses
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:11 PM   #10
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I guess this is what China calls progresses
As opposed to progress in the US...



Oops, guess there are unseen parts of every country.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:46 PM   #11
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Exactly...
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:48 PM   #12
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My girlfriend is chinese. I would have to say that the stories presented are fairly one sided. I will hopefully get to check it out for myself soon enough and be able to report back.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:22 PM   #13
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As opposed to progress in the US...



Oops, guess there are unseen parts of every country.


Yep its in all countrys...this thing we all call progress

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Old 10-16-2007, 08:50 PM   #14
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:59 PM   #15
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Communism rules!







...for those in charge.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:27 AM   #16
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:35 AM   #17
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:44 AM   #18
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My girlfriend is chinese. I would have to say that the stories presented are fairly one sided. I will hopefully get to check it out for myself soon enough and be able to report back.
just dont go to a web caffee and try to open GFY...
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:52 AM   #19
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People will watch and believe 100% of it and then watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and dismiss it all as one sided.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:02 AM   #20
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Communism rules!


...for those in charge.
yes
they have the total power to do whatever they want...
and this is rules for those in power
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:21 AM   #21
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just dont go to a web caffee and try to open GFY...
yes, and it is the same reasons why women who visit many middle eastern countries are required to wear a veil or even a full burqua. It's the law locally, and it would be stupid to break the local law.

When you like someone with freedom, going somewhere with less freedom is sometimes difficult.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:40 AM   #22
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Progress is what you make of it.

How many on this board started working in porn and had very little, and are now doing at least 5 times better????


And dont tell me you can not progress in a Communist country. They do have things called the black market.
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pornguy, I like your outlook on things. You can make a very negative situation positive. haha
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:07 AM   #25
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all countries have the same problem, graft and corruption, unemployment, etc. government officials especially the presidents/leaders must know everything about this, unfortunately sometimes they are the first one who allows this things to happen. and the people are most affected.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:22 AM   #27
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:48 AM   #28
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just dont go to a web caffee and try to open GFY...
sure you can . . there is no problem in that . . china is pretty relaxed ..
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That's a very good piece of advice
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:51 AM   #30
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In China, you don't stand a chance against the government.

In the USA, you have much better odds. Our courts and our constitutional protections are supposed to protect people.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:28 AM   #31
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In China and a few more of the world's "booming economies", the growth is very select... and the expectations on someting more than that are rediculous.

For those countries to reach "western standard" (including employment rate), they'll have to fish up more money than is possible from OUR economies.

Americans can already see the effect at home of money moving over there...
Imagine multiplying everything (not just their influx of capital, but also our economical deterioration) with 10, or even 100, for those countries to rise above their general countrywide poverty status...(!)

Just how do you think the US, and Canada, and European countries, and "the rest of the west" would be like?

Things just aren't holding up, we in the west have been living on like 80% of the world's total possible wealth, whilst being FAR less of the world's total population.

We become significantly poorer (as nations and average population at least) while they become only marginally richer.

Want a good life for yourself in 20 years from now?
* Move to a developing country and sell products/services worldwide to those who can afford it.
* Do all you can on your own to maintain a good health.
* Do all you can on your own to keep burglars away, and to avoid becoming a victim of general crime.

I'm not shitting you, and I'm not paranoid... this is realism.
Better be on top of your game, and not trust in government or law to be there for you in the future.
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