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Old 11-03-2007, 08:18 AM   #1
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Programmers: Can you write this?

What I would like to have is a script that will automatically check me in online, 24 hours to my flight departure so I don't have to get up at 6:00 AM the day before I fly somewhere.

Is that doable?

Essentially, want it set up so that after I make my reservations I can go to the script, put in my confirmation number and departure date/time and the script will login to the airlines and check in 24 hours prior.

If so, how much $$ ?

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Old 11-03-2007, 09:32 AM   #2
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Your lazy. How often do you do this?
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Your lazy. How often do you do this?
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It's possible, all it takes is a CURL / DB combo.
I'd say it'd take a skilled programmer about 3 hours to get the basic framework, 2+ hours to do the http debugging. Depending on the level of interface you want, time on top of that.
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Is that doable?

If so, how much $$ ?

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Depends, just one airline, or many?
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for $50 you can email me the confirmation code and i'll do it, im usually up at 4AM CST
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b) you're underestimating the project.
No db? And where exactly does the script keep the date, time, flight #, airline, website information?
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No db? And where exactly does the script keep the date, time, flight #, airline, website information?
flat file, no need for a database for 1 record
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Your lazy. How often do you do this?
Probably 4 times a month lately. Also, this airlines is implementing a new system that makes it worthwhile to be the first to do online check-in.

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Depends, just one airline, or many?
Usually the same airline. If multiple airlines will make it a chore, then one will be fine since it is the one I fly the most frequently
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for $50 you can email me the confirmation code and i'll do it, im usually up at 4AM CST
$50 one-time, or per incident?
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No db? And where exactly does the script keep the date, time, flight #, airline, website information?
an xml file :D
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If it's one airline maybe.... but if it does end up being more, than I wouldn't recommend a flat file system. It's certainly possible but not the most effective way.
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depends on how many you want me to do, i'll give you a discount per
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Let me talk to an Indian programmer first (if no one here can do it).
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If it's one airline maybe.... but if it does end up being more, than I wouldn't recommend a flat file system. It's certainly possible but not the most effective way.
I fly SWA a lot more than anything else. That would be the most important.
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Usually the same airline. If multiple airlines will make it a chore, then one will be fine since it is the one I fly the most frequently
If you're actually interested, hit me up on ICQ, and we'll see what we can do. 398-768-519

Honestly though, what you're looking for is probably impossible. These airlines drop a huge amount into development, and part of that is to make sure little script kiddies can't login remotely. More than likely, it can't be done.

If you ever need some serious development done, then definitely hit me up. I'm sure I can put a smile on your face.
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a) you probably won't need a db.
b) you're underestimating the project.
a) Since when did this turn into a pissing contest? If you're wanting to record logins, log actions etc, you wouldn't piss around with flat files.
b) I seriously doubt that. I specialise in writing apps like this ;)

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If you're actually interested, hit me up on ICQ, and we'll see what we can do. 398-768-519

Honestly though, what you're looking for is probably impossible. These airlines drop a huge amount into development, and part of that is to make sure little script kiddies can't login remotely. More than likely, it can't be done.
If you can login from your browser and do it, it can be duplicated.
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Let me show you exactly what needs to be done.

Please go to http://southwest.com/
Check in Online
It asks for Confirmation number, first and last name

If you are within 24 hours it takes you to a page where you can click a button to check in and print the pass (don't need the printing done)
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In other words, you are trying to get the low numbered boarding pass so you get a better choice of seats?

Set your alarm. Wake up for 10 minutes, do the work, go back to sleep. What's the big deal?
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If you can login from your browser and do it, it can be duplicated.
Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
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In other words, you are trying to get the low numbered boarding pass so you get a better choice of seats?

Set your alarm. Wake up for 10 minutes, do the work, go back to sleep. What's the big deal?
I usually leave at 6:25 AM, I usually go to bed between 3-4 AM.
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Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
Not exactly true.

My bank has two places for me to input my password and account number, along with Site Keys.

Anyone can check me in to my flight as long as they have my confirmation number and my name.
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Wow, they really don't like this practice it seems.

"In a lawsuit filed by Southwest Airlines against BoardFirst, the U.S. District Court in Dallas, Texas recently granted Southwest’s request for an injunction to prohibit BoardFirst from helping our customers get “A” boarding passes. Consequently, we at BoardFirst.com are no longer able to take or process your orders for our service."
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PS. This is what pisses me off about so called "developers" these days. Have no idea what they're talking about, but pass themselves off as "professionals", making my job 10 times harder to get a quality message out there.

And don't even get me started on the Indians, Ukranians and Iranians who offer themselves at $15/hour...
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Wow, they really don't like this practice it seems.

"In a lawsuit filed by Southwest Airlines against BoardFirst, the U.S. District Court in Dallas, Texas recently granted Southwest?s request for an injunction to prohibit BoardFirst from helping our customers get ?A? boarding passes. Consequently, we at BoardFirst.com are no longer able to take or process your orders for our service."
So their entire program was solely for SWA? That seems a little odd. Could they really be getting that much business that it was worth a staff?
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Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
Bank of America has a new system called "My Portfolio" that does almost precisely this; for obvious reasons they limit the transactions to 'within BofA', but they login, get your account stats, and make a pretty little graph of your assets and debt.

So, yeah, it's possible.
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PS. This is what pisses me off about so called "developers" these days. Have no idea what they're talking about, but pass themselves off as "professionals", making my job 10 times harder to get a quality message out there.

And don't even get me started on the Indians, Ukranians and Iranians who offer themselves at $15/hour...
You're the one that strikes me as being clueless here. I personally had no issues what so ever writing an application that automatically without any user intervention logs into my ING, BOFA, Citibank, Chase, E-Trade accounts, and aggregates them into an overall view.

I'd love to hear what sort of "security protocols" are supposed to be stopping me. If any repetitious task can be done by a human, then it can be done by a computer just as well.
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PS. This is what pisses me off about so called "developers" these days. Have no idea what they're talking about, but pass themselves off as "professionals", making my job 10 times harder to get a quality message out there.

And don't even get me started on the Indians, Ukranians and Iranians who offer themselves at $15/hour...
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Bank of America has a new system called "My Portfolio" that does almost precisely this; for obvious reasons they limit the transactions to 'within BofA', but they login, get your account stats, and make a pretty little graph of your assets and debt.
From what you said, the service is either owned by BoA, or in conjunction with it, so obviously it's going to work. Go get some guy in Bombay to write a script that remotely logs into your bank account, and downloads your transaction history. I bet he can't do it.

I'm not saying what baddog wants is impossible, but just saying it's unlikely that the airlines haven't setup things to make it impossible, that's all. You first login, then check-in to your flight, but in the middle of that there's several things that happen to ensure you're an actual human logging in from the airline's web site, most of which you can duplicate remotely.

Anyway, again, if you need quality software, feel free to hit me up.
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From what you said, the service is either owned by BoA, or in conjunction with it, so obviously it's going to work. Go get some guy in Bombay to write a script that remotely logs into your bank account, and downloads your transaction history. I bet he can't do it.

I'm not saying what baddog wants is impossible, but just saying it's unlikely that the airlines haven't setup things to make it impossible, that's all. You first login, then check-in to your flight, but in the middle of that there's several things that happen to ensure you're an actual human logging in from the airline's web site, most of which you can duplicate remotely.

Anyway, again, if you need quality software, feel free to hit me up.
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In other words, you are trying to get the low numbered boarding pass so you get a better choice of seats?

Set your alarm. Wake up for 10 minutes, do the work, go back to sleep. What's the big deal?
An example of when it would come in handy is Weds when I am flying from NYC to Chicago I should be checking in for my flight back to LAX the next day.

Unfortunately, unless I can get this script put together before then I will probably be forced to sit in between to 300 pounders for the flight back home.
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Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
Yes? Just because you're sitting in front of the computer doesn't make it magical. All it is is a series of HTTP requests.

I just caught up with your other comments in this post. You obviously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about - it seems you're under the impression the internet works on pixie dust.

Take a peek at curl.

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From what you said, the service is either owned by BoA, or in conjunction with it, so obviously it's going to work. Go get some guy in Bombay to write a script that remotely logs into your bank account, and downloads your transaction history. I bet he can't do it. .
No. I thought I was being fairly clear by stating that it only limited payment transactions within BofA institutions. It will happily grab your info from PayPal, ING, your credit cards, and about 100 other institutions online.
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So their entire program was solely for SWA? That seems a little odd. Could they really be getting that much business that it was worth a staff?
Yeah, apparently one of several offering this kind of service. So they are probably who you're competing with for the best A seats too. SWA is suing them all.

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I'm sure StatsRemote could add this into their program :D
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You are absolutely correct. That is next on my list of things to get.
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Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
All this is no problem at all in most cases and there are quite a few applications and services that already do that. There are very few things that cannot be simulated if you know what you're doing.


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Sorry, not interested. Like others said before... scriptlance, elance or getafreelancer... pay someone $50... voila
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Is this what you want?

If you enter everything on the GET url (could be done easily in javascript, or preload first, last, or confnum, it'll automagically go to SouthWest). I couldn't debug further; I haven't used SouthWest in years.
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a) I simply stated that you don't need a db. If you can't take somebody elses opinion that's your problem.
b) Good for you.

I never said it can't be done. All I said was you're underestimating what he is asking for and it can't be done properly in 5 hours.
a) You're correct in this; the whole fucking thing is stateless. There's no point in a DB for something as throwaway as this.

As far as the second statement, you're also way off base. My 'shitty' version doesn't bother with any parsing, emailing success, etc. It just prints out the page that Baddog wanted to the screen.

Ya know what? That works, too.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:45 PM   #45
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So, anybody got a working confirmation number, or what?
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:36 PM   #46
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It's possible, all it takes is a CURL / DB combo.
I'd say it'd take a skilled programmer about 3 hours to get the basic framework, 2+ hours to do the http debugging. Depending on the level of interface you want, time on top of that.
15 minutes. It's also getting removed in 15 minutes.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:57 PM   #47
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So, anybody got a working confirmation number, or what?
I do, but you can't check in until 24 hours ahead of time, which means the next time will be Tuesday evening
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:12 PM   #48
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Ummm, no. Or, so you're saying if I give you my client card# and password to Royal Bank, you'd be able to write a script that remotely logs in, downloads my account history, and initiates a transfer to someone else's account? Sorry, but nope, and the airlines have the same sort of security protocols in place.
I have a couple similar scripts that run weekly and monthly on my accounts.
It's not easy for your typical script kiddie who has never read a single programming
book or taken a single class, but for a qualified professional it's pretty easy.
My own scripts do Washington Mutual Bank, Compass Bank, ePassporte, and
Linkpoint. The scripts have to get the transaction history for our profit sharing plan.

There are a lot of script kiddies posting what they can do with their level
of knowledge and that's cool. I've been a full time professional web
programmer for ten years now so I've done similar things several times.
For one airline it shouldn't take more than about an hour or two.
There are a couple of Perl modules made just for this type of thing
which make it pretty easy. In other words, $200 to [email protected].


For whoever said you don't need a database, but you use a flat file, go read
"Databases For Dummies" or something before posting again please.
A flat file is the most common type of database. Not all databases are
handled by relational database management systems.

For the person who said it can't be done by a program, what do you think
your web browser is? Anything you can do with your browser is being done
by a program since the browser IS a program. In both cases a human tells
the program what to do. The only difference between the normal way of doing
it with a browser and what baddog wants is that baddog wants the program
to wait several hours before carrying out the instructions. That's no big deal.
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I do, but you can't check in until 24 hours ahead of time, which means the next time will be Tuesday evening
Hit me up; people were fucking with it so I moved it.
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Why are you quoting the word 'shitty'? I never said anything about shitty.
I wasn't quoting you, doofus. That was MY statement.
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