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Old 11-05-2007, 08:59 AM   #51
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They will contact you if they feel the need...but I am satisfied that you are on their watch list.

BTW...your reading comprehension...is lacking...now isn't it?
you're in desperate need of a knee in your face
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:09 AM   #52
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:57 AM   #53
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Getting back to Blackwater - if you need an example of how they act within the US - just go back two years to New Orleans during Katrina - remember those pickup trucks full of guys with auto-rifles cruising the floods you saw on TV - those were Blackwater Mercs brought in because the Prez couldnt authorize Natl Guard by law

Forgot about them Linkster OK, there is a point in trying to maintain a level of calm/moderation in a disaster area, tho seems very weird to think that needs groups of armed mercenaries roaming the neighborhood. If it was Bush who sent these people there, - he sure has a lack of concept of human relationships. Not sure of the actual scenario now, - what would be wrong with importing LE from other areas to help, or the Nat Guard, or was this another method of skirting the law?

No other western countries (or many countries less developed) would tolerate armed mercenaries cruising the streets with members of the public around - even in a disaster time. In the countries I'm familiar with that would be a *big* issue and the fallout would prob range from major inquiry to possible sackings in the govt - and poss laws to prohibit that happening again. The fact that these people are mercenarcies and known as such, would prob involve the removal of govt, or at least all members associated with engaging/instructing mercenaries.

It's not a secret that disasters can cause looting etc, some do, some don't - and looting also involves simply getting food and whatever to exist, not just with criminal intent. There are far worse scenarios than Katrina, tho that was on a fairly strong scale, and it's "normal" to send help and support to people in need under these circumstances - not trucks of armed wannabees.

The conduct of the current administration, leaves many questions - mainly relating to accountability and responsibility. From their current and recent past action, there is no apparent reason to trust or have confidence in their judgement. They are accountable and responsible to those who elected them and so far, there is little indication of either - or of being of any significant value to the US people or the country as a whole.

Only my - I'd trust a rattler first
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:05 AM   #54
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Just for you to look up greywolf.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/20060.html
Ah Thank you for that link ASM - missed it between theKings "pigshit" posts

Yep - aircraft ID N987SA is on a few flight plans here. It's fairly obvious from the flight plans what period the aircraft were being leased for "normal functions" and when they were engaged in "other activities".

When there is time, I'll check where that flew to
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:13 AM   #55
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Oh no's...Danny boy.
Oh yes... coward.

Still stalking and living in hope?? Pity you can't support a word you say and hide behind "blah, blah, pigshit". That obviously makes you very relevent

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Old 11-05-2007, 11:28 AM   #56
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Not talking specifically about what job they perform, their pay rates or the name of the company who engages them. The concept of using a load of has-been scum looking for more money is like employing a rabble. Believe me, there is more than just Blackwater involved - there are similar alleged "security" companies in other countries and got the same opinion of them - they need wiping off the map and hope they will be relatively soon, one way or other.
They have had to farm South America and other parts of the world for their mercenaries. For instance Chile. They actually hired a shitload of guys who were soldiers for Pinochet. Pretty fucked up if you ask me.

And you are right about similar security companies. Blackwater gets a lot of press because they are the largest and most prominent. But there are a lot of other companies like Blackwater that are handling security overseas with little to no oversight.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:30 AM   #57
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Bush could send Blackwater to Pakistan, no ?

I heard that there is a " bad man " there, that abuses his own people and proclaimed himself dictator...

Blackwater could bring " freedom and democracy " ....
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:32 AM   #58
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Bush could send Blackwater to Pakistan, no ?

I heard that there is a " bad man " there, that abuses his own people and proclaimed himself dictator...

Blackwater could bring " freedom and democracy " ....
They are already working on it Musharraf probably received anti-impeachment advice from the White House.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:33 AM   #59
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Bush could send Blackwater to Pakistan, no ?

I heard that there is a " bad man " there, that abuses his own people and proclaimed himself dictator...

Blackwater could bring " freedom and democracy " ....
They can also bring the 1.3 billion dollars we give the country.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:41 AM   #60
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They have had to farm South America and other parts of the world for their mercenaries. For instance Chile. They actually hired a shitload of guys who were soldiers for Pinochet. Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
Didn't know they recruited from the old terror regimes pk, but sounds an appropriate recruiting ground. They were well-trained and could be useful in having an element of 'non-traceable' and unaccountable people on the "staff". All the more reason not to trust any of them
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:05 PM   #61
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I have a question about Blackwater- If they operate in the US would they have to actually obey by laws? Or would they be exempt, like in Iraq?
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:08 PM   #62
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I have a question about Blackwater- If they operate in the US would they have to actually obey by laws? Or would they be exempt, like in Iraq?
They technically have to obey the laws when in the US.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:44 PM   #63
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They technically have to obey the laws when in the US.
When that deals with such topics as surveillance are you sure they must maintain the same standards as a government agency?
Will the be required to obtain warrants?
Can they detain you, if so for how long, if not for how long can you see an attorney when they charge you etc?
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:53 PM   #64
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When that deals with such topics as surveillance are you sure they must maintain the same standards as a government agency?
Will the be required to obtain warrants?
Can they detain you, if so for how long, if not for how long can you see an attorney when they charge you etc?
I'm just saying that "technically" they have to abide by laws. But the administration turns a blind eye to them so they can basically do whatever the fuck they want.

These guys charged the government $950 a day to be security in New Orleans. They paid their people $350 a day. Talk about a markup.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:56 PM   #65
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Really, so a giant remote air ship built to suck in and gather information that quit possibly is equiped on its undercarriage with a starlight and sunshine effect so that it looks like the day or night sky would need a warrant before it turned itself on?

Ok sorry I just realized this sounds like a real bad sci fi movie.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:19 AM   #66
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thx very interestnig
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