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xmas13 · 11-15-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

You don't like "the man" telling you want to do.. you make your own rules on life blah blah blah. I'm done.

The customer is always right.

xmas13 · 11-15-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

It is VERY rare that most people receive service so bad it warrants a $0

You are assuming that it must be very rare, based on .... ?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 11-15-2007, 02:34 PM

The real Sinatra, he knew how to tip...

...his hat.

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xmas13 · 11-15-2007, 02:35 PM

xmas13 · 11-15-2007, 02:37 PM

LLCoolRay · 11-15-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real Sinatra

THIS FUCKERRR!!! I am so heated right now.

Ron Weiner this "hot shot" lawyer from Atlanta comes into chops tonight to entertain 7 of his friends.

Right off the bat he orders 3 bottles of Cabernet valued at $150 a piece and shellfish appetizer for 8 people roughly $600 and a bottle of tattinger $80.

Very polite, educated, well spoken and youthful were the guests he was entertaining. He also made it a point that he was the person to get the bill at the end of the night.

Having provided PERFECT service, including wine recomondation, wine service, beautifuly decorated and garnished shelfish towers wich included colosal stone crab claws, oysters, lobster and shrimp, i also showcased table side skills wich involved Fileting and de-boning 2 dover sole's as well as carving 44oz double porterhouse's tableside, i was SURE TO HAVE THIS ONE!!!!!

My assistants and i did not miss a beat, even providing our guests with hot towels and lemon to clean their filthy hands after enjoying the expensive appatizer.

A perfect 2 course meal, Shellfish tower and Entre's leaves no room in the bellys of my guests, and push's them to settle for the check after i offer them desert, after dinner drinks and beverages...

The check was roughly $1700
and included 20% gratutity was automaticly placed on the check for the party size of 8 people, brining the final bill to $2040 for 8 people.
VERY GOOD for a restaurant with a $100/ a head check average.

it is then that I CHOSEEEEEEEEE to waive the automatic 20% gratuity thinking that this HOT SHOT would tip us 20% easily and possibly more.

In this case i could have simply taken my 20% and said GOODNIGHT.

Instead i give him the choice, by judgin his charactar i thought he would be a DECENT 20 percent tipper by the way he was spening..

boy was i wrong...

after using his "club card" he knocked off a savings of 10% from the check, brining the check down to $1600

he then proceded to tip me a MEASLY 12% on 1600 !!!!! the
DISCOUNTED PRICE!!!

He Shorted me $140 by 20% terms!!

Here comes the worst part.....

12% of $1600 is a $200 Tip....

This tip gets SPLIT 50/50 with a back waiter

THEN i tip a bus boy out 2.75% of my sales. IN this case
$1700 x .0275= -$47.00.

THEN another .05% for a bartender -$8.5

then another .05% for a food runner -$8.5

Then -$5 for a stocker.

Wich Leaves me with $31 dollars wich then goes into a checking system and is taxed just like any paycheck anyone else would recieve.

ID LIKE TO SAY A BIG FUCK YOU TO RON WEINER WHO DINED AT CHOPS TUESDAY NIGHT. Next time i wait on you, you fat fuck, i wont put that included gratuity past your check you piece of shit.. you shorted me $140 that would have made all the diffference, but you had to figure out a way to afford to treat your friends, so you took it out of my pocket you fuck.

What goes around, comes around.

joe mac

Word to the wise! That's why they include 20% automatically on the bill. Maybe next time you will think twice about removing it! Now you know! And knowing is half the battle.

Snake Doctor · 11-15-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

I used to think like you. Then about 5 years ago when I was in school I worked at a bar.

Servers deserve every cent of tips they receive to deal with asshole cocksmokers who think they are too clever to leave a decent tip.

This is not correct. MOST servers deserve every cent they get and then some. SOME servers deserve to be starved out of the industry because they fucking suck.
I'm not just talking about being slow or being obviously new either, I'm talking about assholes with attitude that make you feel like they're doing you a favor by being there.
They don't deserve anything but the complaint I give to management.

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

I would rather be remembered as the patron who made someone's day then the cheap fuckwad asshole who didn't tip because the kitchen threw the server under the bus and fucked up an order.

I agree, if the food is bad that shouldn't affect the tip. The tip is for the service and not for the quality of the meal.
HOWEVER, if my order is fucked up, my server should notice it and correct it before it gets to my table. He/She knows what I ordered and how I ordered it and if they made the wrong thing, didn't remove the indgredient I wanted them to, or didn't add the ingredient I wanted them to, the server should catch that.
Otherwise I'm sitting there that much longer waiting to get what I wanted.

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

As has been stated in this thread already - some people have class, some don't, period. Are you 'correct' that tipping isn't 'mandatory' - YES - but who fucking cares, that only makes you a dick who is 'right'. I would rather be on the 'wrong' side of the equation and be a decent human being.. I can't imagine how much saliva you've eaten in your life from all the food that has been spit on.

Hey man, my mother was a waitress at Denny's for 40 years, so I've definitely heard your side of the story many times.
BUT it was also my mother who taught me to leave a penny on the table if the service was horrible or the server had an attitude. (If you stiff them that just says you're a cheapskate, if you leave a penny you're sending a message)

15% is standard, what I leave for standard service. I'll tip more than that if the service is exceptional, and I'll tip less than that if the service is subpar.

I think that servers who go above and beyond and really bust their ass providing you with great service deserve to get paid more than the servers who just do the bare minimum, but if you want to overtip everyone because you think it makes you a better person, then so be it.

Dollarmansteve · 11-15-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

You are assuming that it must be very rare, based on .... ?

scientific research in my laboratory, what else.

BlackCrayon · 11-15-2007, 02:50 PM

People who work for less than minimum wage and rely on customers to make up their lack of pay are taking a risk and they should know that. You win some, you lose some. Hopefully you come out on top at the end of the day and if not why work such a shitty job in the first place?

Dollarmansteve · 11-15-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

15% is standard, what I leave for standard service. I'll tip more than that if the service is exceptional, and I'll tip less than that if the service is subpar.

Bingo, and this is what i said about 6 posts above. Some people will vehemently disagree since they dont "play by society's rules".. ANARCHY RULES.

frostyimpressions · 11-15-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

If the pay is such a problem, why would someone take a less than minimum wage job? And don't tell me that's all that's available. McDonald's is paying out above minimum wage these days and they can't keep anybody working.

The person takes the less than minimum wage job because they want to make tips. And that's great, they should, it's kind of like a mini business they are running. But if they want to make tips, they have to earn those tips. If they do not have the ability to make their customers happy, then McDonald's is probably a much better route to go.

Service. Service. Service. It's the service industry. The industry revolves around giving people service and a pleasant experience. If I sit down, I should be getting that pleasant experience. Unfortunately, I rarely do.

I never said that they don't have to earn tips. I worked as a server for five years to support myself during college. I did a good job and stayed serving because the pay was good and most people were generous. It's just frustrating when you do a good job and go out of your way to make a pleasant experience for the guests of parties of 8 or more and they don't leave you shit because they think it's what I am already being paid to do.

frostyimpressions · 11-15-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

The customer is always right.

The customer is always right.....until they are wrong.

Snake Doctor · 11-15-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

Bingo, and this is what i said about 6 posts above. Some people will vehemently disagree since they dont "play by society's rules".. ANARCHY RULES.

Of course all of that being said, I don't tip at starbucks or really anywhere else that has a tip jar on the counter. If I have to go to a counter then this isn't a "tipping place"

I don't tip cab drivers unless they help with luggage. If I don't have luggage I don't tip (I do round up to the next $ though, I'm not that bad)

I also don't tip delivery drivers if there's a delivery charge added to my bill. (this is the same as the mandatory 20% gratuity IMO)

I think the whole "tip" culture has gotten really out of hand...I've seen tip jars at the drive thru window at Wendy's for crying out loud.

dig420 · 11-15-2007, 03:15 PM

IF you don't tip, you're a jackass, a loser, and a tool. Make all the lame-ass justifications you want, but that's the bottom line.

Pics Traffic · 11-15-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Of course all of that being said, I don't tip at starbucks or really anywhere else that has a tip jar on the counter. If I have to go to a counter then this isn't a "tipping place"

I don't tip cab drivers unless they help with luggage. If I don't have luggage I don't tip (I do round up to the next $ though, I'm not that bad)

I also don't tip delivery drivers if there's a delivery charge added to my bill. (this is the same as the mandatory 20% gratuity IMO)

I think the whole "tip" culture has gotten really out of hand...I've seen tip jars at the drive thru window at Wendy's for crying out loud.

Pleasurepays · 11-15-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

It's called doing something pleasant, assmunch! It puts a smile on someone's face and to me that's worth an extra $2.00.

you are one of those assholes giving out money to guys on street corners.

i hate to do this.

i really do...

but i feel it needs to be done

sorry.

BUT

he doesn't really want to work for food

he isn't really religious... so he didnt reallly mean the "god bless you" part

and he isn't a veteran.

he is just a an addicted/disturbed predator who targets people like you. you are in that group who are the most selfish. you are in that group of those selfish people who enable junkies and alcoholics, so you can feel good about yourself for a fleeting moment at the expense of the misery you perpetuate in others.

Snake Doctor · 11-15-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA

So you're saying you work at starbucks?

_Richard_ · 11-15-2007, 04:03 PM

wtf is up with this thread lol

Big John · 11-15-2007, 04:32 PM

The don't tip/do tip argument is crazy. Service should ONLY be tipped according to the quality given. You get a teeny basic wage because doing your job well makes it pretty decent via tips. If you do not do your job properly then you deserve almost nothing.

An example - take any comission based sales job. If you don't go out there, do your job well and sell shit you earn nothing and don't eat. Why on earth is the same not true of waiting staff? The way they are paid, their job and their earnings are related to the service they give, so reward them accordingly. Those that can't be bothered to do their job deserve little or nothing much as the bad sales guy does.

Bottom line is if you are incapable of doing your job well then you should not be doing it and should certainly not be earning well from it. Those that do a decent job should be rewarded accordingly. It's how most jobs work one way or another i.e. those that perform are rewarded accordingly be it via commission, bonuses, promotion or in this case tips.

As for the original poster it's been said - what an idiot. Knocking the 'obligatory' 20% off in the first place was dumb but then to publically name and attempt to shame the guy on a adult forum...

I wonder how many links to this thread the guy who runs the restaurant has been sent by now? Hope the OP didn't like his waiting job there.

tony286 · 11-15-2007, 04:44 PM

I rarely get bad service because I treat the server like a person not my servant. Ive taken ice cold dont care and made them my best friend. I tip between 20% to 25% for good to better service. Also if I see a problem starting I have no problem making the manager aware early in the ballgame.

thonglife · 11-15-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

That's pretty good

Martin3 · 11-15-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

A handful of people don't notice it is on there and tip an additional 15%.

lol, I did that once. Picked up the tap on a birthday party. Was pretty drunk and didn't really read the bill, added 25% since he was pretty good for such a large party. A few days later I found the recipe in my pocket when I was doing laundry and realized 20% was already on it. DOH!

mrthumbs · 11-15-2007, 05:33 PM

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mister_nobodie · 11-15-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

It's called doing something pleasant, assmunch! It puts a smile on someone's face and to me that's worth an extra $2.00. You would probably bitch about the food being prepared wrong and then stiff the server when the server had absolutely nothing to do with preparing the food. You that kind of asshole. The one that punishes the server for every single mistake.

My drink is weak, server's fault. My food is wrong, server's fault. Valet scratched my car, server's fault. And the funny part about that is the server still tips out the same amount to all the people that fucked up your shit regardless of how arrogantly cheap you are. Tip outs are based on gross sales, not how much cheap dicks like you leave.

Why am I even in this debate?????

lol

he said he tips generously at least 5 times already
but since it sounds like nothing is ever your fault, maybe your puter fucked up and you didnt see it.

V_RocKs · 11-17-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest

not true

i was a waiter for many years. i rarely added tip onto the bill. and i had a 25% avg tip for many years at the better houses i worked at

Sure you can expect 25% on a $200 to $600 bill...

But to expect someone to pay $250 on a $1000 bill out of the kindness of their heart is just pure insanity.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 11-17-2007, 05:45 PM

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D · 11-17-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Tip should change with dollar volume, effort and time.

If I have a $100 bill at a restuarant a $20 tip is fine. If I have breakfast and the bill comes to $7 I'm not going to tip just $1.40. I'd tip $3 on that.

If I buy a rare-vintage $10,000 bottle of wine I am not going to tip $2000 for carrying it to my table. How does the "servers only make $2.13 per hour" argument hold up on a $10,000 bill for 5 minutes of work? So what do you tip someone for bringing you a $10,000 bottle of wine? $2000? $1000? $200? $100?

15-20% on wine is still considered proper etiquette. Some, considered authorities on such matters, though, might argue that as little as 8-10% is still fine.

It's important to realize that regardless of what you leave, the server/sommelier still will have to declare roughly 10% of the cost of that wine as income, or suffer the real possibility being red-flagged for an audit by the IRS. As the IRS will generally audit an entire restaurant and not an individual server, most restaurants insist, as an unspoken condition of employment, that front-end service staff declare at least that minimum 10% of total sales - food, wine, or whatever.

And then, there's also the likelihood that the server/sommelier will have to tip out 5-8% of the cost of that wine, regardless of what you actually leave, into the labor structure of the restaurant.

Putting someone in a position where they have to pay to work for me is something that I, personally, don't think I'd ever want to do.

One easy answer to the dilemma is to not buy a $10,000 bottle of wine at a restaurant. Buy the $10,000 bottle of wine at a winery, cellar, or whatever... bring it in to a restaurant (always a good idea to call ahead to determine their corkage policy)... pay the $10 - $50 corkage fee, and enjoy.

minusonebit · 11-17-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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NETbilling · 11-17-2007, 10:42 PM

I was a waiter for many years from the time I was 17 until I was done with college around 25 and I busted ass doing it and usually got tipped well. However, it depends where you work. A waiter at Pizza hut will certainly have to work much more for the dollars than a waiter at Spago and may work just as hard or harder. Now that I have money, I sympathize for waiters at lower price restaurants, especially when they bust ass and are nice. I tip well, usually 25%-30% at these places. However, at higher class and much more expensive restaurants, you often run into snottier waiters, bartenders and hosts.

Just because you want to charge me $150 for a fucking 16oz ribe-eye, does not mean you are going to get $30 (20%) for bringing me the plate. If you want 20%, you are going to have to be really cool, work really hard and justify the price of your over priced food. If you add 20% because I have more than 8 people or something like that, I will tell you to go blow yourself. I will tip what I feel your service was worth, whether it is 1 person or 20 in my party.

Mitch

DollarKing · 11-18-2007, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Madame0120

Not taking the 20% was a nOOb error. Old timers like me, know that the reason there is a charge for table over 6, is that the server tends to get stiffed,not just on the tip, but by not being able to turn your station as quickly.

However, what sucks the worst, is that a server can be taxed on the gross sales, and not the actual tip.

Personally, I'd rater see resturants pay a fair wage to service ppl so the wouldn't have to depend on the whims of a diner, to make bank.

As my Daddy is fond of saying ..

Greedy is as greedy does.

The only way workers could see a better wage granted them is if its legally forced onto the employers but this also applies to other job sectors too like fast food workers known to be exploited. Factory workers , you could go on about what a fairier wage should be.
I remember burger king hitting the news some time back making its workers clock off when it wasen't busy and then clock on when it was but only payed them when they clocked on but expected them there all day regardless.
Capitalism is about money and more money and making more money it dosen't recognise greed or retraint. Its all a cheating game by everyone to help themselves to a bigger slice of the pie at the end of the day.

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Big John Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Never never land Posts: 470	The don't tip/do tip argument is crazy. Service should ONLY be tipped according to the quality given. You get a teeny basic wage because doing your job well makes it pretty decent via tips. If you do not do your job properly then you deserve almost nothing. An example - take any comission based sales job. If you don't go out there, do your job well and sell shit you earn nothing and don't eat. Why on earth is the same not true of waiting staff? The way they are paid, their job and their earnings are related to the service they give, so reward them accordingly. Those that can't be bothered to do their job deserve little or nothing much as the bad sales guy does. Bottom line is if you are incapable of doing your job well then you should not be doing it and should certainly not be earning well from it. Those that do a decent job should be rewarded accordingly. It's how most jobs work one way or another i.e. those that perform are rewarded accordingly be it via commission, bonuses, promotion or in this case tips. As for the original poster it's been said - what an idiot. Knocking the 'obligatory' 20% off in the first place was dumb but then to publically name and attempt to shame the guy on a adult forum... I wonder how many links to this thread the guy who runs the restaurant has been sent by now? Hope the OP didn't like his waiting job there. __________________

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dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	IF you don't tip, you're a jackass, a loser, and a tool. Make all the lame-ass justifications you want, but that's the bottom line.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I rarely get bad service because I treat the server like a person not my servant. Ive taken ice cold dont care and made them my best friend. I tip between 20% to 25% for good to better service. Also if I see a problem starting I have no problem making the manager aware early in the ballgame.

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NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,574	I was a waiter for many years from the time I was 17 until I was done with college around 25 and I busted ass doing it and usually got tipped well. However, it depends where you work. A waiter at Pizza hut will certainly have to work much more for the dollars than a waiter at Spago and may work just as hard or harder. Now that I have money, I sympathize for waiters at lower price restaurants, especially when they bust ass and are nice. I tip well, usually 25%-30% at these places. However, at higher class and much more expensive restaurants, you often run into snottier waiters, bartenders and hosts. Just because you want to charge me $150 for a fucking 16oz ribe-eye, does not mean you are going to get $30 (20%) for bringing me the plate. If you want 20%, you are going to have to be really cool, work really hard and justify the price of your over priced food. If you add 20% because I have more than 8 people or something like that, I will tell you to go blow yourself. I will tip what I feel your service was worth, whether it is 1 person or 20 in my party. Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!