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Old 11-17-2007, 04:33 PM   #1
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Anyone who makes business decisions based on GFY threads is a moron...

Five threads on the front page have reply wars in which someone stated they will not do business with someone else or a whole group of people based on the view points of other replies in the thread.

I just have to laugh... I was that way in the past. At one time I hated Scott (SleazyDream) and AaronM... I got over it and realized how childish that level of business decision making can be.

Grow up people.
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:43 PM   #3
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Seriously I would never do biz with anyone on my ignore list

keep in mind it took a lot for them to get there some are known scammers some are thiev's 1 is just dumb

So far it consist of:

AlienQ
Antonio
Barefootsies
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CDSmith
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not only would I never do biz with these people I would advise others who ask me not to do the same


Saying what is written on a message board dosent count is like saying what is written in a letter dosent count

words are words no matter what median delivers them
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:52 PM   #4
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Why shouldnt I allow gfy to have some influence in whom I will or will not do business with. Hell there is a whole wagon load of known scammers that you can only discover if you look for gfy threads and woe is you if you did not bother to do a search first.

Then there are those I do not agree with on a business mentality level. If I see someone that clearly supports the theft of others (adult and non adult). Then they justify themselves because it may or may not be legal in a given area, are people I am not to interested in doing business with. Hell why would I desire to do business with someone who does not value my material and publically supports theft?

Same can be said of companies that allow or look past certain actions of others or perform certain actions themselves.

I am far from stupid enough to just scoff and say its gfy afterall what do you expect.
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:53 PM   #5
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amen brutha, if two people can make good money together it shouldn't matter what their personal views are
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:54 PM   #6
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amen brutha, if two people can make good money together it shouldn't matter what their personal views are
Your smarter than that.
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:54 PM   #7
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was starting to write a long reply but said fuck it, its saturday evening

cheers

edit: but i hope that those who indeed base their biz decisions of what they read on GFY, would do biz with me
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:54 PM   #8
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words are words no matter what median delivers them
A median is something you to avoid hitting when you drive your car. You probably fail at this often. But the word you are looking for is medium.

Too bad that since you put me on ignore, you'll never read this piece of helpful advice. Oh well, your loss.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:29 PM   #9
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Seriously I would never do biz with anyone on my ignore list

keep in mind it took a lot for them to get there some are known scammers some are thiev's 1 is just dumb

So far it consist of:

AlienQ
Antonio
Barefootsies
bashbug
BlackCrayon
CAMOKAT
candyflip
CDSmith
cheapgallerydesign DS250
minusonebit
Renny
ridikuloz
Scott McD
Spunky
TDF
WarChild
woj

not only would I never do biz with these people I would advise others who ask me not to do the same


Saying what is written on a message board dosent count is like saying what is written in a letter dosent count

words are words no matter what median delivers them
Pitty... I have done business with Woj and would do it again. Great guy.

I love AlienQ designs. I have done mild-business with Warchild and found him to be a great guy...
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:30 PM   #10
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A median is something you to avoid hitting when you drive your car. You probably fail at this often. But the word you are looking for is medium.

Too bad that since you put me on ignore, you'll never read this piece of helpful advice. Oh well, your loss.
Now he will...

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Old 11-17-2007, 05:37 PM   #11
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:51 PM   #12
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:53 PM   #13
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Pitty... I have done business with Woj and would do it again. Great guy.

I love AlienQ designs. I have done mild-business with Warchild and found him to be a great guy...
Thats great

Its just that most of my properties are mainstream and I do hire out a shitload of work from the adult sector..... just dont have time for stupid people anymore.

I work just under 18 hours a day and manage a virtual staff, this leaves me with very few spare brain cells to play around with each day

so.... I decided the best thing for me to do is completely block out retards, crooks and scammer... im sorry I just dont have time for them
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:57 PM   #14
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I also dissagree with the woj thing.
Stupid remarks, stupid opinions, silly arguements should not get in the way of doing business, though it is yours to do as you wish with. I guess I just have a tolerance line. We can fight and argue till hell freezes over and that will not stop a business deal. However if there are some fundamental business issues we dissagree with than that changes things.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:04 PM   #15
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There are plenty of people to do biz with on this board and in this industry... If someone repeatedly proves themselves to be a complete cock via their posts, why would I want to give them money?
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:07 PM   #16
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Differences of OPINION will not stop me from doing business with anyone.

Patently rude or constant offensive behaviour certainly could. There is always room for disagreement-in fact I would suggest that differing viewpoints, handled properly, can INCREASE the value of any discussion and result in both parties actually gaining valuable insight. Insight they may have never discovered otherwise.

The men and women who I would be hesitant to do business with are those who constantly resort to such intellectual gems as, "No, YOU da nigga!" and so forth. If that is the best retort you're capable of, I sincerely doubt you can bring anything important to me or my work.

And of course, the obvious liars and thieves.

The rest is wide open.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:14 PM   #17
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In all the "drama" or "fights" that I've ever been involved in/with on GFY, I've never once recommended that people not do business with the people I'm up against.

They've told people not to do biz with me.... but I don't do the same in return.

If you don't like me, that's fine. If I don't like you, accept it. But I refuse to go out of my way to try to undermine someone's business/work.

That being said, I also don't go out of my way to tell other people that they should or should not do business with other people based on any drama on this board. If you want to, great... if not, great.

I'm sure this isn't making as much sense as I'd like it to.... the point is, when it comes to business, I believe people are free to make their own choices, regardless of personal feelings.
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I know this aint the same as loosing money but I learned a good lesson from GFY, When I first joined GFY I did some some link exchanges with one guy that used to post on here. I must have had around six text links on my site to his sites as well as a banner. After about a month I was doing a link exchange check and some of his sites were gone and one of them had been completly changed. He did not have any of my linkbacks on any of his sites and after reading some posts about him on here I kinda wish I had read the threads before doing any link exchanges with him. So I think in some cases it does help to read up on threads. But the ones where you get two people argueing I tend to ignore.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:33 PM   #19
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was starting to write a long reply but said fuck it, its saturday evening

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edit: but i hope that those who indeed base their biz decisions of what they read on GFY, would do biz with me
you do business ?


Seriously, I wouldn't do business with you but i might sleep with you
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I can say this much. When someone annoys the shit out of me because they act like a child they get put on the ignore list. At that point it is kinda hard to have the option to do business with them when all you ever see from them is:

This message is hidden because StuartD is on your ignore list.
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Five threads on the front page have reply wars in which someone stated they will not do business with someone else or a whole group of people based on the view points of other replies in the thread.

I just have to laugh... I was that way in the past. At one time I hated Scott (SleazyDream) and AaronM... I got over it and realized how childish that level of business decision making can be.

Grow up people.
I think you couldn't point a better example than with Sleazy. He says he's the same online and IRL... but my perceptions were still different. The guy is an awesome public speaker and very cool to talk to/hang out. I never done business with him but my opinion still changed when I met him face to face.
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I can say this much. When someone annoys the shit out of me because they act like a child they get put on the ignore list. At that point it is kinda hard to have the option to do business with them when all you ever see from them is:

This message is hidden because StuartD is on your ignore list.
I'm still honoured to have finally made it to someone's ignore list. Thanks man
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:38 PM   #25
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I work just under 18 hours a day
What? Jesus, I hope you make over a million a year or will within the next 4 years if you are working that much...

Then again... When I add up the reading up on shit aspect of my day... I guess I am right there with you.
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I also dissagree with the woj thing.
Stupid remarks, stupid opinions, silly arguements should not get in the way of doing business, though it is yours to do as you wish with. I guess I just have a tolerance line. We can fight and argue till hell freezes over and that will not stop a business deal. However if there are some fundamental business issues we dissagree with than that changes things.
I have emailed woj on 4 seperate occasions inquiring about some pretty large jobs...not one single reply...I gave up on ever considering him again
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Seriously I would never do biz with anyone on my ignore list

keep in mind it took a lot for them to get there some are known scammers some are thiev's 1 is just dumb

So far it consist of:

AlienQ
Antonio
Barefootsies
bashbug
BlackCrayon
CAMOKAT
candyflip
CDSmith
cheapgallerydesign DS250
minusonebit
Renny
ridikuloz
Scott McD
Spunky
TDF
WarChild
woj

not only would I never do biz with these people I would advise others who ask me not to do the same


Saying what is written on a message board dosent count is like saying what is written in a letter dosent count

words are words no matter what median delivers them
This is one list I'm proud to be on. The kinds of posts this pussyserver kid has made in the past obviously prompted me to speak out and point out his idiocy or otherwise disagree with him. In the 10 years I've been in this business everyone with whom I've done any type of business with at all (and there are an army of them) will tell you my record is solid, my word is my bond. Period. Pussyservers?... well for one thing, who is he? Never even heard of him before a couple of years ago. Just look at some of his posts and that's all the indication anyone needs for credibility.

Now, back to the drama... :D
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By the way, up until now I was completely unaware that this "pussy server" fellow and I had any issues 'tween us.

Shows you how much malice I had towards him doesn't it? As in none. Was barely aware of the guy.


I'm not the type to take much of this board horseshit seriously. There are a few here I won't do business with simply because they aren't the types I want to have anything at all to do with much less business. That list is quite short though. Everyone else starts with a clean slate with me, your word is good until you break it.


And V_rocks, if someone is constantly saying things on message boards that clearly indicate they are a complete asshole with zero people skills, zero manners, zero regard for anyone, why should I ignore that and trust them in business when there are tons of others here who don't act like that and who do conduct themselves in a more mature manner? Fact is I shouldn't, no one should. Only an idiot would.
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