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Old 12-03-2007, 10:30 PM   #1
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ama joe sent cops to my studio now blames me

This slime ball told me on icq that he was calling lafilm and police and send them to my studio! Now cops come to his house and he blames me! Funny if it was me, which it was not then maybe he should not cry wolf? This guy is a scum bag watch out! Here are some things people have to say in the biz about him. And these are people that know him and do business with him not people that have never met him!
May 21, 2007, 3:03 PM
Lisa Ann Vs. AMA Joe
By LUKE IS BACK |

Monday afternoon I call Lisa Ann of Clear Talent Management.
Lisa: "Joe?s an agent?s nightmare. He booked eight people last Friday to do handjobs. It?s a calamity of a day. You ask eight porn people to be somewhere at a certain time, obviously it?s not going to happen. Some of the people were late.
"Today one of my girls had a shoot over there. He told her, "It?s cancelled. I?m no longer doing business with Lisa?s agency because the girls were late.?
"Two people were late.
"He was yelling at me last Friday. ?Why don?t you control your girls?? Well, one of the girls who was late has never been late before.
"The shout-out I?d like to give to Joe is: ?My girls can not possibly be any later than his checks.?
"I?m not the only agency he owes money to."

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Emily Evermoore Vs. AMA
She emails me:

I only Breezed over your stories about joe and dennis for ama but I am sure the bad things said are right! Joe and Dennis have fucked me by saling content they never paid me for they also will make cut in there filming or "redue" pick ups saying the one pick up was "bad" one shoot took 12hr. for a ganzo! I later found out they produced 2 movies that day!!! Not only that but they took stills there are now selling on there site for way to much and NEVER paid me these stills were supose to be for three films he told me he would be filming but after stills for all three films he told me he would have to film the rest another day AMA is the skum of the earth as for his to wifes....I use to be in the drug seen (I have been sober for 2months!) the addition his lovers suffer are not a sex addition. LADIES AVOID WORKING FOR AMA!!!!!!



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Emily Evermoore Vs. AMA
She emails me:

I only Breezed over your stories about joe and dennis for ama but I am sure the bad things said are right! Joe and Dennis have fucked me by saling content they never paid me for they also will make cut in there filming or "redue" pick ups saying the one pick up was "bad" one shoot took 12hr. for a ganzo! I later found out they produced 2 movies that day!!! Not only that but they took stills there are now selling on there site for way to much and NEVER paid me these stills were supose to be for three films he told me he would be filming but after stills for all three films he told me he would have to film the rest another day AMA is the skum of the earth as for his to wifes....I use to be in the drug seen (I have been sober for 2months!) the addition his lovers suffer are not a sex addition. LADIES AVOID WORKING FOR AMA!!!!!!



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Joe Ama - this guy reminds me of a pick pocket or some guy that sells
you a vcr on the street but when you get home and unwrap the nice
pakaging it is a box of rocks. He should be on every agents black list
and everyone else - get cash up front before you shoot or forget it he
will bail back to Las Vegas or Colorado He had me shoot in his
unpermitted location with no showers or bathrooms, negotiated with the
talent and gave me a list of stuff to shoot (little did I know he told
them only 1/2 of what was on my sheet) He then put the talent through a
grueling shoot. Shot 6 complete scenes with stills, video and acting
scenarios which I completed in record time with no brakes and no food or
water supplied by Ama Joe Many hours later the talent laughed when he
tried to blame me for taking too long. They complained that they did
twice what was agreed upon at the start of the shoot to no avail. He
just called the agent and tried shift blame and squirm out of paying
more, but I am sure the agent knew what was up or found out after
talking to the talent.
The talent loudly stated they would never work for him again and stormed
out after thanking me for being nice to them and assuring me it was not
my fault. Three weeks later he only paid me 1/3 of what we agreed apon
even though every single still was perfectly exposed and video was way
better than his "features" that were shot by the shakiest camera camera
I have scene and were certainly not capable of ataining over 2 stars
from avn I heard he has hired (set up scam) many camera people just to
get the talent cheap and keep them longer that agreed upon and blame it
on them (set up scam) I was going to call the labor board on him but
seemed like too much trouble, may still...
Agents - bear in mind any producer is responsible for his employees
actions.
Talent, industry professionals, suppliers and everyone else - Stay away
from this lying, cheating, rip off artist. Why spend so much time,
energy and effort trying to rip people off when if you treat them right
riches will come back to you tenfold?

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Posted by Kevin Stich of at 7:52pm
Joe from AMA.......Burns Talent $500.00

Monday, August 22nd, 2005. Jessica Jammer was hired for a g/g set
at 12:00pm to shoot for AMA Video. She was told by AMA, payment can be
picked up on the 31st of August. It has been now 1 month later,
still NO PAYMENT! Details were that 3 girls were hired from me to
shoot that day and I was told that all checks would be available on
August 31, 2005, along with management fees. August 31, I go to AMA ,
7334 Topanga Canyon Rd, to collect all checks for the girls. Joe
proceeds to hand me one check for the total amount of 1,300. I asked
him why he was paying me in one check for 3 different girls and myself,
his response..... That is all I have in the budget . I replied
with that is not acceptable, as well as, this is not the original
agreement. So he paid the other two girls their agreed rates and
told me that he was going to contact his producer and myself and have a
meeting to discuss the issue. After several attempts to contact him,
he has refused to pay both Jessica and myself. He has also refused to
speak to either one of us. A total of 3 girls shot that day and 2
were paid, but not Jessica Jammer.

His response now is to contact his lawyer.

I was not going to post this at all, until after reading that he had
burned a producer on another occasion for location fee. I feel that by
bringing this issue to light, that not only will both of us possibly be
compensated as originally agreed upon, in addition there might be other
talent with similar stories.

BEWARE ALL TALENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted by Stoney Curtis of Celestial Productions / Lethal Hardcore at 12:56pm
Warning to all Talent and Home Owners, Joe at AMA Video has not paid for Location.

Back on 8/31 we rented out our location to Joe and he promised he would send the check the next day well it is 9/20 and we still have no check. He has told my assistant who handles this for me he sent it several times. I am warning talent and location people GET YOUR MONEY as soon as you are done dont fall for the check in the mail line like we did!! I know this is not related to porn performance but I felt that people should know the Directors that dont pay like they promise too!!!

Besides Joe was warned that if he didnt have some respect and class and make good on the money that I would post this because at this point it is no longer about the money!!

If anyone else has had trouble with this company please report to this site!!
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:32 PM   #2
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:36 PM   #3
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I thought it was standard to pay a model on the same day as the shoot.
Its what I always did anyways.
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not paying peeps is bad bizz.. no matter who you are.

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Old 12-03-2007, 10:42 PM   #8
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Donny,

How many threads do we need to get this settled?

I posted repeatedly in the others, and do so again. Why? No idea, except that I hate to see people walk to the cliff and throw themselves over the edge.

KNOCK IT OFF.

Get your attorney, take it to court. Spend YOUR time on cranking out content.

Slinging shit won't DO anything. You can stop this foolishness and make some bank.

If you are right, as you seem to think, a judge will agree. THEN you can repost here and link to the XBIZ threads showing the news releases about how you won in court.

Until then, you just look like a dick.

Sorry man.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:44 PM   #9
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I thought it was standard to pay a model on the same day as the shoot.
Its what I always did anyways.
It is unless you can't afford the model and have to sell her content to pay her! Then the content is such low quality you cant sell it! Some companies do pay payroll and take taxes out but, pay on time. We pay all our talent same day!
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Yup and that is the point I am trying to prove!
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It is unless you can't afford the model and have to sell her content to pay her! Then the content is such low quality you cant sell it! Some companies do pay payroll and take taxes out but, pay on time. We pay all our talent same day!
Like the "Long" girls that you procured from MySpace (as all good predators do), and then let them stay at your place as long as they shot with you for free?

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I got a message this morning from a person who sent me a MySpace blog post that he said was written by the performer Donny Long.

Long often recruits new female talent to the adult industry, rechristens them with his last name, and shops them around to producers.

I contacted Long, who said that the blog post was indeed his.

The person who sent it to me identified himself as a male performer who has worked with several women who have also worked with Long.

"This just proves that Donny is just in this all for himself," he wrote. "What do you expect when you bring such young talent on board?"

Long's full post is below, unedited. What do you think?

Agents and Their Pimp Hands

I tell you what I have no clue how agents do the things they do and put up with the things they put up with from these back stabbing flaky whores and make any money. I take my hat off to any agent that tries to manger girls and make money doing it!!!!!!! I have not been doing it for the money but would be nice to recover sometimes what you invest like aim testing time and so on. I think my problem is I am too much of a nice guy and put up with too much shit from these girls. I never wanted to open a agency and still never plan on doing so. I have been getting a lot of girls into the biz and out of like 11 in a little over a month ever single one of them have fucked me over and not came through or did what they said they would do. I am a very busy guy and between being talent shooting 2 scenes a day sometimes and trying to help these bitchs and its just a nightmare. I have been doing this for a lot of reasons first its kind of nice you got to admit to have a bunch of horny girls around sometimes and the whole thing of having a bunch of girls take the long name but the down falls of it are just not worth it. My house has been a mad house of girls fighting over everything especially the bathroom. sometimes 3 girls at a time.I think one person told me a very smart thing tonight and to think about. Most of my girls have been 18 and 19 years old. They said remember when you were that age you didn?t give a fuck about anything true? well that?s what I forget is 18 is a age that a girl just could care less about anything anyone has done for them and has no morals. Sort of like my xgirlfriend that fucked me over after I helped her have everything she wanted for over a year.

I have put money out of pocket, drove these cunts around on go sees and helped them in every way possible every free min. I have and the only thing I get out of them is ungratefulness. Most of these girls come into the biz because there life is all fucked up as it is and they need help. A lot of them are on drugs and trying to keep them off it just does not work long term either. Problem is when you try to help them they are so use to people trying to screw them over they just don?t realize what you are doing for them. One of the big things is a lot of them walk into the biz wanting to do everything anal dp and have no idea what they are in for and when you try to explain it to them and limit them to come into the biz slowly, they don?t listen. These bitchs think they know everything and don?t want to listen to anyone that tells them they are wrong and that we know better and we have been in the biz longer. This goes for everything agents tells the girls from not giving there numbers out to not trusting anyone lol. I have noticed one thing about the industry, agents and all the girls. Comes down to one thing the agent with the biggest pimp hand wins. That means who has the most power over a girl and can scare a girl the most with money contracts losing work and so on. Its simple look at the biggest to the smallest agents and compare who has the flakiest girls. Why are they the biggest and look at how long girls stay with the bigger agents. Why is that because the biggest agents have the most power.

Example 1 Candy Long 20 years old A girl I brought in and put money out for to get tested and let stay at my house and so on. I signed her up with goldstar and they got her working and one morning I get a call from Joel and he is telling me she is flaking on a shoot and this was not her first shoot! We are both pissed and call her telling her if she does not so up to set we will send her movies to her real job witch she works for the government lol. She claimed to be sick throwing up in riverside without a ride to the shoot in Malibu. After the threats to tell her job she showed up to the shoot. I get a call later from a friend of mine thats male talent jenner asking if I knew where candy was. Guess what she was not in riverside she was at his house because he was nice enough to let her stay there becuase she had nowhere to go. He woke up and her and his new truck were gone! Bottom line seems like ever time someone try?s to be captain save a hoe we get fucked.

Example 2 Vicky Tones 18 years old I brought into the biz also and still owes me 400 dollars for testing and what not she needed. She was a hard headed one that also had to learn everything the hard way. I took her to a red carpet event and told her how important it was not to get drunk or make a fool out of yourself or me because all the media was there and I had brought her there. Well guess what she made a fool out of herself not worth going into details. Second time take her onto primetime with some of the other long girls and guess what someone there gets her high before she goes on the show and sits there on the couch with me and 2 of the long girls and veronica and when people ask her questions she goes uhhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh stoned out of her mind while Jene Ross is sitting there writing about it for his site. So after that I should have told her to fuck off but no I hook her up with number1models because Joel wont take her and what does she do? 2 and a half hours late for the first shoot and 1 and a half on the second. "FIRED" and still leaving me messages to help her!

Example 3 Lexi Long 20 years old A girl that her boyfriend came to me and wanted to bring her in doing only g/g. Long story short spent a lot of time and got fucked on that too. 5 days before the shoot wont even return calls. Like I said no morals or marbles for that matter.

Example 4 Roxy Long 20 years old another vicky tones that was a lier and had to learn everything the hard way and still owes me 400 dollars. This girl never got to shoot because she had some loser that was married that she was in love with effecting her job that she lied to me about also.

example 5 Angelina Long my favorite 18 years old also fucked me over really bad. This is the most resent and the worst one. She was a fan that fell in love with me and fucked me and Joel over really bad with her lies and all her bullshit and then I was dumb enough to believe her lies and give her a second shot and put her with lighthouse and 3 days later gone! Her responce is I she does not give a fuck about anyone or anythjing anyone has done for her. She just wants to go back to her druggy life in Oregon.

NOW FOR THE POSITIVE GIRL Hottie Hollie 22 years old porn star from Canada that has been trying to get usa ids and come and work for a while. She came down to stay with me and I got everything taken care of for her and I put her strait with ladirect. She should be back in a couple weeks when her ids get here. we will see but looks good.

Bottom line is I think I have learned to let the agents do there job and take the fall for these crazy bitchs. My days of helping them and putting my neck on the line is done the way I have been is over. I will still bring a lot of girls into the biz here coming up but things are going to change. Either I will bring them right to a agent and not bother trying to help them get a couple bookings first with the easier companies to work for or plan b is I am going to contract them for a period of 2 weeks then send them to a agent.
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Well I still do not htink ya should be makin waves with Ama.

But your choice really.
I wouldnt.
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Well I still do not htink ya should be makin waves with Ama.

But your choice really.
I wouldnt.
Its not waves its war! At the end of the day our content is better and we are going to be launching a nonexclusive content store that blows his away
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Jesus Christ Mike.

You must have a gif for everything. That could be your niche.

A few cents per download can add up fast, my friend.
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cliff notes anyone?

closest you will come to cliffs notes on this clusterfuck:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=787318


set aside some time. It is educational.
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closest you will come to cliffs notes on this clusterfuck:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=787318


set aside some time. It is educational.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=787318


set aside some time. It is educational.
funny how noone likes hearing the truth about such scum!
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Don't worry woj - and you would prob not want to read the police statements either. They have prob already taken four officers down with sheer boredom

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Who in there right state of mind would buy anything from you ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? Idiot
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Irony.. the adult industry is full of whiny jealous girls that need to grow up and just do their biz without all the fucking drama queen bullshit. You men need to start manning it up and acting like men instead of pissy c-unts.
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I'm too lazy to read the thread, but I agree to everything donnylong AND ama joe says!
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Irony.. the adult industry is full of whiny jealous girls that need to grow up and just do their biz without all the fucking drama queen bullshit. You men need to start manning it up and acting like men instead of pissy c-unts.

High Five sista! I can think of a few big business men in this industry who would never ever whine this much or lower themselves to look this cheap. They wouldn't have the time because they are truly too busy making money. Just try it and see if you can do it, close your eyes and imagine Lensman posting this...........hahahahahahah can't it is impossible. He is a gentlemen and a business man. How about Ron? Nope just wouldn't happen. Let?s throw Eric in the bunch? Nope again! hahaha But it is fun to read and laugh at everyone's posts.
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High Five sista! I can think of a few big business men in this industry who would never ever whine this much or lower themselves to look this cheap. They wouldn't have the time because they are truly too busy making money. Just try it and see if you can do it, close your eyes and imagine Lensman posting this...........hahahahahahah can't it is impossible. He is a gentlemen and a business man. How about Ron? Nope just wouldn't happen. Let?s throw Eric in the bunch? Nope again! hahaha But it is fun to read and laugh at everyone's posts.
Loryn you dont work for Lens anymore don't have to kiss his ass. lol
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