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Old 12-04-2007, 11:27 AM   #51
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Why are there so many liberal fags here?
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:30 AM   #52
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Hey, I made an error while writing and that's what you used to comeback at what I said. How clever and original.
no, I was answering GITZINGER ...

I already had come back on you saying, opinions and non-facts....
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:31 AM   #53
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Why are there so many liberal fags here?
you are signing up to fight?
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:32 AM   #54
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Honestly? You really think that every government should share all information with the public? So then should police agencies divulge information on undercover activities since our tax dollars are paying for it as well?

There are typically reasons that this information isn't shared with the general public and suprisingly enough, it's not just because there is a devious plot of world domination involved. Sometimes, it's just to maintain the safety of the people who have their lives on the line.
There's a time to keep things under wraps, and there's a time for openness.

We supposedly live in a Republic, not a tyranny - not in a dictatorship. The citizens are supposed to be ultimately responsible for the course of our government in a Republic.

As prompted by our founding fathers, it's out _Responsibility_ to keep our government in check. There's nothing more American.

Our current government has lied to us time and time again. That's not the way things are supposed to work. They're supposed to be accountable to us.

Unless, of course, you favor the devolvement of our now quasi-republic into a police state/dictatorship.
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There was Jack Benny, Chaplin, Jimmy Durante, George Burns and now there is GFY and Government...

... with rising stars like the Ivy League failure - DaddyHalBucks, incoherent unpresidential George and, of course, the delusional self-appointed King of Comedy - theKing himself.

Where have all these flowers gone?

It has been a long time passing since this thread started and not one bee to the honeypot



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Of course, the main blame (80%) falls on Saddam for this unfortunate outcome of war, but you can also blame the Iraqi people (20%)..
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:49 AM   #56
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I already served my country during Desert Storm. I don't believe in the Iraq war, nor did I believe in the last one. I just think flaming liberals are fags, and are so righteously indignant that arguing with them is like being a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:09 PM   #58
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There's a time to keep things under wraps, and there's a time for openness.

We supposedly live in a Republic, not a tyranny - not in a dictatorship. The citizens are supposed to be ultimately responsible for the course of our government in a Republic.

As prompted by our founding fathers, it's out _Responsibility_ to keep our government in check. There's nothing more American.

Our current government has lied to us time and time again. That's not the way things are supposed to work. They're supposed to be accountable to us.

Unless, of course, you favor the devolvement of our now quasi-republic into a police state/dictatorship.

There is a difference between lying and withholding information. I know the government has lied to the population of both the country and the world, I can't argue that point. But, they also withhold information that would compromise the integrity of the situation. I bet you were one of the many that dogged Haraldo for drawing up troop positions in the sand and now you would like the government to do just that?

What I'm saying, and have been saying throughout this entire thread is that there is a lot more going on than any of us know or will ever know, so making decisions based on lacking information isn't something I tend to do. I agree that something needed to be done with the situation that was and still is brewing in the middle east, I don't, however, agree with how this war has been fought and many of the decisions that have been made.
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Those 3,000 centrifuges are for peaceful purposes. Same thing with their enormous underground nuclear facility at Natanz.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
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Those 3,000 centrifuges are for peaceful purposes. Same thing with their enormous underground nuclear facility at Natanz.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
You are a realtor as well as an expert on nuclear facilities in other countries????

Congrats
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In the post 9/11 era and in an age of portable WMDs, GWB has a very tough job keeping up our national security.

An important thing to note is that most of the GWB haters on this board are foreigners. So, what exactly is their committment to keeping our country safe?

Zippo. So I don't think they have much credibility.
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In the post 9/11 era and in an age of portable WMDs, GWB has a very tough job keeping up our national security.
it is HARD work ....

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The Bush administration intends to slash counter terrorism funding for police, firefighters and rescue departments nation-wide by more than half next year, according to budget documents obtained by The Associated Press.

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This is President Bush's last budget, and the new administration would have to live with the funding decisions.


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Old 12-04-2007, 01:01 PM   #63
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In the post 9/11 era and in an age of portable WMDs, GWB has a very tough job keeping up our national security.

An important thing to note is that most of the GWB haters on this board are foreigners. So, what exactly is their committment to keeping our country safe?

Zippo. So I don't think they have much credibility.
Every word a gem and gets even funnier with each post

About credibility..... are you trying to resurrect the word???
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:01 PM   #64
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The intelligence report says Iran has a nuclear weapons program, but that it was put on hold.

Sounds like George W. Bush & co were right this time.

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Iran denied having any nuclear weapons program, and now they are happy that US intelligence considers it 'frozen' or 'on hold'?

What the fuck !
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I'd be comfortable with only nations that don't hold the religious beliefs that to die for your religion is the highest honor one can achieve having nukes.
Lmao you are a fucking idiot.

Bush said he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq because....wait for it....GOD TOLD HIM TO!

retard.
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Iran denied having any nuclear weapons program, and now they are happy that US intelligence considers it 'frozen' or 'on hold'?

What the fuck !
Iran is happy with the report because it means they have backed off from beating the wardrums. They never were building bombs.
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It's quite simple. Irans leader his insisted many times he wants the nuclear energy for electricity. If we go by the absolutley absurd logic by assuming that he is lying, we would have to assume that Bush is also lying about the intel on Iran, and then you are in a paradox...

logic 101
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In the post 9/11 era and in an age of portable WMDs, GWB has a very tough job keeping up our national security.
you never fail to make a complete ass out of yourself
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Iran is happy with the report because it means they have backed off from beating the wardrums. They never were building bombs.
You don't produce flowers with a nuclear weapons program.

Frozen/on hold is not cancelled.

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Lmao you are a fucking idiot.

Bush said he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq because....wait for it....GOD TOLD HIM TO!

retard.
It's okay that you don't understand how things work. It's not my job to teach you, either.
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It's okay that you don't understand how things work. It's not my job to teach you, either.
I don't understand how things work

You're right, If an arab or persian is religious he is a nutjob.

If someone goes to war because god told them to they are absolutley normal.

Get help.
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It's quite simple. Irans leader his insisted many times he wants the nuclear energy for electricity.
By admitting their nuclear weapons program was frozen they also admitted its existence.

Do you need translation in camel dialect?

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You don't produce flowers with a nuclear weapons program.

Frozen/on hold is not cancelled.

They never admitted a nuclear weapons program was in existance.

Read my earlier post, it's not a nuclear weapons program it is a nuclear energy program. The CIA lost all its credibility with Iraq, so basically.

If you are assuming Iran is lying about them making energy. You must also assume the CIA/BUSH is lying about their so called "intel". So your argument is totaly illogical!
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I don't understand how things work

You're right, If an arab or persian is religious he is a nutjob.
So who are you? A paki, a camel or a whore from Iran?

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Iran's foreign minister on Tuesday welcomed the U.S. decision to "correct" its claim that Tehran has an active nuclear weapons program


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This new US intelligence report still claims that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, and implies that Iranians are liars, and Iran welcomes this new report?

Strange reaction.

LOL.
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Yes, it welcomes a new report because they are no longer beating the war drums. I don't in any way see how that is admitting to building nukes.

Also, no I'm not a "paki" or an arab, but it's nice to admit that you are a racist, losing all your credibility. How old are you, 14?
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"I thought Europe was a country"
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Iran is happy with the report because it means they have backed off from beating the wardrums. They never were building bombs.
Seriously buzzy - they all lie. Iran lies, the US lies ad nausea... and, in the end - Iran will have nuclear capability along with any other countries who are threatened. Sadly - it makes sense, but sure not helpful.

Iran was messed with for decades by the US and then dumbo George opened his stupid mouth and threatened with his unoriginal "axis of evil" term. What did the "axis of evil" do? Arm themselves. Of course they are going to take whatever steps needed to have whatever weaponary as defense against predatory activity.

It'a a foul arguement that one kid on the block is entitled to have arms and others should not. None of them can be trusted with shit, whether they currently have nuclear capability or not.

Add to that, the hypocracy being displayed is a sad joke. The US has no problems with eg Pakistan or Egypt having nukes. At the same time Iran has nuclear neighbors - what are they expected to do??

Then there are the "agendas" - the only reason the US govt is in the Middle East relates to oil. Of course they don't want Iran to have more powerful weapons - they have tried to decades to control oil (tho it does not belong to them) and failed. The concept of Iran having nuclear capability places hopes of oil control even further away.

Awesome how school kids behave in the playground
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Yes, it welcomes a new report because they are no longer beating the war drums. I don't in any way see how that is admitting to building nukes.

Also, no I'm not a "paki" or an arab, but it's nice to admit that you are a racist, losing all your credibility. How old are you, 14?
I'm not a racist, i'm a Daily Telegraph reader, and Iranians don't have a nuclear weapons program, they just need electricity.

Please...........

Ok so you are not paki, not camel, not a whore from iran.

Are you a fag, a communist, a tard, do you eat bananas?

Just asking, no offense.
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I'm not a racist, i'm a Daily Telegraph reader, and Iranians don't have a nuclear weapons program, they just need electricity.

Please...........

Ok so you are not paki, not camel, not a whore from iran.

Are you a fag, a communist, a tard, do you eat bananas?

Just asking, no offense.
A daily telegraph reader, that explains it.

But anyway, i have provided a legitamate argument prooving that your argument is illogical and all you can do is return racist insults and flames, i think we know who is right
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This thread is truly disturbing... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

...some of the replies here are insane... why is it that so many americans treat politics like it's some kind of religion?

What you believe about your government or president or republican party or whatever is completely meaningless... how about looking at the facts???

Some of you should really try reading a few books or watching a documentary or two some time rather than just being pigheaded ignorant assholes all the time...




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Fuck Bush, Fuck Ahmadinejad.

The tard and the fag, would make a beautiful couple. They might not produce nukes but they are producing tard babies in the US and Iran.



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So who are you? A paki, a camel or a whore from Iran?
nice ....

gives you much credibility .....
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This new US intelligence report still claims that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, and implies that Iranians are liars, and Iran welcomes this new report?

Strange reaction.

LOL.
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So it sounds like many of you in this thread don't mind the idea of an Islamist country with a crackpot leader having Nuclear energy/weapons or whatever.

As far as you're concerned, there is no threat to our security. You should be glad we keep nukes out of the hands of governments who hate the West, and probably wouldn't hesitate to give access to fundamentalist crazy enough to set off the big one on our soil.

You can keep telling yourself there is no threat to America, but you are lying to yourselves.
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As far as you're concerned, there is no threat to our security. You should be glad we keep nukes out of the hands of governments who hate the West, and probably wouldn't hesitate to give access to fundamentalist crazy enough to set off the big one on our soil.
You are either stupid or ignorant ....

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The man who devised the Bush administration's Iraq troop surge has urged the US to consider sending elite troops to Pakistan to seize its nuclear weapons if the country descends into chaos.

In a series of scenarios drawn up for Pakistan, Frederick Kagan, a former West Point military historian, has called for the White House to consider various options for an unstable Pakistan.

These include: sending elite British or US troops to secure nuclear weapons capable of being transported out of the country and take them to a secret storage depot in New Mexico or a "remote redoubt" inside Pakistan; sending US troops to Pakistan's north-western border to fight the Taliban and al-Qaida; and a US military occupation of the capital Islamabad, and the provinces of Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan if asked for assistance by a fractured Pakistan military, so that the US could shore up President Pervez Musharraf and General Ashfaq Kayani, who became army chief this week.
So. what were you saying .....

Let me see ....

You ( the USA ) keep nukes out of the hands of " people crazy enough to set off the big one on our soil "

It is really sad to see how brainwashed you guys are, even AFTER the Iraq debacle ....
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But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:43 PM   #92
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This thread is ridiculous. You all must have all of the information regarding this whole situation and I'm just the guy talking out of his ass. I know it's the cool thing to dog America these days and I can't fight that, so you guys belief what you want and I'll continue to back the country that has given me an awesome life. I know it's not perfect and it's made decisions that could of been better, but so has every other country in the world.
You're right. We don't have the information. So let's nuke the bastards!!!!


It's amazing you have the brain power to breathe.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:43 PM   #93
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You are either stupid or ignorant ....



So. what were you saying .....

Let me see ....

You ( the USA ) keep nukes out of the hands of " people crazy enough to set off the big one on our soil "

It is really sad to see how brainwashed you guys are, even AFTER the Iraq debacle ....
So there is not islamic terrorism? Oh my god, if I just keep saying it over and over, then it must be true. What country are you from?
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:44 PM   #94
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Because I don't agree with you? I would rather be blind and deaf than an simple minded sheep that believes everything I see on tv.
where is it exactly that you got your information about Iraq and Iran from?
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:47 PM   #95
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You're right. We don't have the information. So let's nuke the bastards!!!!


It's amazing you have the brain power to breathe.
Why do you say that? In any of the posts in this or any other thread have you seen me say that we should nuke them?

It cracks me up that because my opinion on this subject is different from most of yours, that somehow makes me stupid. As with most contreversial topics on this board, everyones opinion seems to be fact and anyone who has an opinion that differs is now somehow labeled as having too little brain power to breathe.

Please explain to me why I am so stupid.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:50 PM   #96
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Ya, I'm sure Iraq and Iran were both just minding their business with no intent of ever causing problems for the world and the US just kicked in the door for now reason what so ever.

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Why do you say that? In any of the posts in this or any other thread have you seen me say that we should nuke them?

It cracks me up that because my opinion on this subject is different from most of yours, that somehow makes me stupid. As with most contreversial topics on this board, everyones opinion seems to be fact and anyone who has an opinion that differs is now somehow labeled as having too little brain power to breathe.

Please explain to me why I am so stupid.
You're free to make assumptions about what you are SURE of (even if sarcastic) but we're not, even using information that's been confirmed.

Please go about your business hypocritical retard. It's amusing.
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So there is not islamic terrorism? Oh my god, if I just keep saying it over and over, then it must be true. What country are you from?
use the approved term : islamo-facist ....
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:56 PM   #98
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You're free to make assumptions about what you are SURE of (even if sarcastic) but we're not, even using information that's been confirmed.

Please go about your business hypocritical retard. It's amusing.
I'm not sure of anything, that's why I'm not making assumptions. This is what I've been saying this entire time. I don't have all of the information and I'm not pretending to have all of the information like many of the people bashing me here. There is so much more going on then what you or I know about.

Go along with the rest of the America/Bush haters, I'm just not one of them. Sorry that seems to upset so many of you. I guess it's a good thing I'm in America where I can believe what I want, but then I guess I'm only allowed to use that argument when everyone agrees with me huh?
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:02 PM   #99
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I'm not sure of anything, that's why I'm not making assumptions.
But you are making assumptions. You assume that the government is looking out for our best interests. That Bush has information that is accurate. That they are doing the right thing because that's what you want them to do.

You've been TOLD that what they said was false. And yet you refuse to believe it because of your assumptions, not the facts presented.

And that's pretty dumb.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:35 PM   #100
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But you are making assumptions. You assume that the government is looking out for our best interests. That Bush has information that is accurate. That they are doing the right thing because that's what you want them to do.

You've been TOLD that what they said was false. And yet you refuse to believe it because of your assumptions, not the facts presented.

And that's pretty dumb.
No, I've been told by people who were in situations much like the one we are currently in that the reports that make the news are mostly false and don't contain nearly half the story. I take what the mainstream media reports with a grain of salt because I know that they all spin stories to further their own agendas. One event can be covered by multiple media agencies and they will all have different info and angles.

What I'm saying is that there is always more to the story then what is reported and to say otherwise is pretty dumb.
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