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Old 12-21-2007, 08:05 AM   #1
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Europeans: Today 9 more countries entered the Schengen Agreement

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I love it - no stupid border controls anymore. When i travelled between Germany and Czech Republic i always had to stop, show my passport, wait for hours sometimes. Now i simply drive through like it's all one big country. great.
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:07 AM   #2
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:11 AM   #3
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As easy as traveling around the states now
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:18 AM   #4
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As easy as traveling around the states now
yeah - with the small difference that we're talking about separate countries - not states here.

that would be more like: no border controls between USA, Canada and Mexico. Everyone can go whereever he wants.
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Poland entered it as well today. We can drive right into germany now
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I think its great news

what I cant understand is that 24 countries can all share a open border so that it makes trade and travel so easy and yet the USA seems determined to make it harder for canadians to enter thier country.

Is canada high risk?
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Yeah, baby! We also joined the agreement!
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I feel sorry for the Lithuanians - they had a doc here on the tv, these guys have to keep 1000+ miles borderline with Russia guarded. Guess who are gonna try to get into the EU the next months.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:16 AM   #10
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Poland entered it as well today. We can drive right into germany now
and like usual you come with a Polonez and go back with a BMW???
























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I think its great - Now if the UK would just sign up it would be perfect.
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Now i simply drive through like it's all one big country.
Good, but still smaller than Russia alone?
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I think its great - Now if the UK would just sign up it would be perfect.
thatll never happen

they dont wanna change to Euros dont wanna be a part of the EU and frankly a country which is that different where cost of life is that expensive isnt something most ppl within the EU are waiting for
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this should definitely drop the cost of drugs & illegal weapons across the entire union......killer!

i bet a gram of "something" costs way less in chzech than in germany
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Yeah, finally my mate from Moscow who lives in Prague for like 8 years already will be able to travel around Europe without visa as well..

They have there the clause that if you have the "permanent resident" status in one of the Schengen countries you are regarded as their citizen at the borders.
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over here in America they're teechin' us the more freedom we get, the more the 'turrorists' win.


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this should definitely drop the cost of drugs & illegal weapons across the entire union......killer!

i bet a gram of "something" costs way less in chzech than in germany
Not really, these countries are not the "recipients" or "target countries"

Thanks god the dope thing is not that spread here as in the west yet, but that will yet come I am afraid..
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Good, but still smaller than Russia alone?
Russia covers half of the Asia in case you never noticed..
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Russia covers half of the Asia in case you never noticed..
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I feel sorry for the Lithuanians - they had a doc here on the tv, these guys have to keep 1000+ miles borderline with Russia guarded. Guess who are gonna try to get into the EU the next months.
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Lithuania borders w/ Russia only in Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg) region, which is enclave; and the border is only 650 km , which is less than 400 mi
Also bordering with Russia: Latvia, Estonia
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Also bordering with Russia: Latvia, Estonia
they said 1000km but youre right thats including belarus
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I loved it when I was in Europe, you just had the sign that you're leaving Germany and entering Belgium. No passport checks stop, no baggage checks, you just go and you're in a different country. :D
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you mean there are still people in those countries that havent already left to go to western and central europe already?

Austria has soooo many fucking people from the east here its not even funny. im not so sure open borders with some of these new Schengen countries was such a good idea. do you really want your security to be ran by ex-soviet states? these people are still way behind the rest of europe and lower wages lead to more corruption and bribery, which in turn leads to smuggling, theft, etc.

now when you steal a car you only have to cross one border instead of two to get it out of the EU. great.
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Pretty cool. I was looking into Schengen a few weeks ago, now I can see even more countries.
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what I cant understand is that 24 countries can all share a open border so that it makes trade and travel so easy and yet the USA seems determined to make it harder for canadians to enter thier country.

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you mean there are still people in those countries that havent already left to go to western and central europe already?

Austria has soooo many fucking people from the east here its not even funny. im not so sure open borders with some of these new Schengen countries was such a good idea. do you really want your security to be ran by ex-soviet states? these people are still way behind the rest of europe and lower wages lead to more corruption and bribery, which in turn leads to smuggling, theft, etc.

now when you steal a car you only have to cross one border instead of two to get it out of the EU. great.
It's all those fucking Poles. My parents are from Slovakia and I speak the language. That also helps me understand Polish and wherever you go in well developped parts of Europe, the place will be swarmed with Poles. Just fucking infested. Makes you wander if there's still any Poles left in motherloving Poland?
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It's all those fucking Poles. My parents are from Slovakia and I speak the language. That also helps me understand Polish and wherever you go in well developped parts of Europe, the place will be swarmed with Poles. Just fucking infested. Makes you wander if there's still any Poles left in motherloving Poland?
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Poland entered it as well today. We can drive right into germany now
it also makes it easier for the nazis to invade ;)
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It's all those fucking Poles. My parents are from Slovakia and I speak the language. That also helps me understand Polish and wherever you go in well developped parts of Europe, the place will be swarmed with Poles. Just fucking infested. Makes you wander if there's still any Poles left in motherloving Poland?
The problem is they are willing to work and just get on with it.

I went to a shopping center in London before I came here - every bar, cafe and shop was fully staffed by Poles. They get the same money as the Brits as we have a minimum wage that is paid as standard by most service and retial companies. So it isnt a cheap labour issue.

They just work harder and better.
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The reasons they did that is because Europeans have low birth rates, so there will be nobody to pay taxes when they retire. The choice was simple: Eastern Europeans or Arabs/Turks/Asians.
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It's all those fucking Poles. My parents are from Slovakia and I speak the language. That also helps me understand Polish and wherever you go in well developped parts of Europe, the place will be swarmed with Poles. Just fucking infested. Makes you wander if there's still any Poles left in motherloving Poland?
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it also makes it easier for the nazis to invade ;)
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you mean there are still people in those countries that havent already left to go to western and central europe already?

Austria has soooo many fucking people from the east here its not even funny. im not so sure open borders with some of these new Schengen countries was such a good idea. do you really want your security to be ran by ex-soviet states? these people are still way behind the rest of europe and lower wages lead to more corruption and bribery, which in turn leads to smuggling, theft, etc.

now when you steal a car you only have to cross one border instead of two to get it out of the EU. great.
Schengen in fact doesn't change a thing..
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What do you think?

I love it - no stupid border controls anymore. When i travelled between Germany and Czech Republic i always had to stop, show my passport, wait for hours sometimes. Now i simply drive through like it's all one big country. great.
I don't think it's that great because now criminals can travel freely.

They have to implement some sort of monitoring to prevent illegal organization to further expand their business. it was easier for them with the borders closed..imagine now.
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I don't think it's that great because now criminals can travel freely.

They have to implement some sort of monitoring to prevent illegal organization to further expand their business. it was easier for them with the borders closed..imagine now.
this has been brought up before - and i still think it's wrong.

first of all: Italiens were already allowed to travel freely since years

second: within 30 kilometers left and right of the borders the controls will be much higher than before. and they will go after what looks suspicious, not generally everyone that just wants to travel from A to B

and third: the border controls over the last 2 or 3 years were a joke anyways, most of the time they merely lifted their head from their newspapers or breakfast.
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The problem is they are willing to work and just get on with it.

I went to a shopping center in London before I came here - every bar, cafe and shop was fully staffed by Poles. They get the same money as the Brits as we have a minimum wage that is paid as standard by most service and retial companies. So it isnt a cheap labour issue.

They just work harder and better.
That's not the case - the case is that locals won't do the job. It's the same thing here, for some jobs you just won't find locals as they are rather heckin on their ass then work for the minimum wage.
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The biggest pain in the ass are Gypsies around here - 500 thousand people 95 pct. unemployed, they don't know the language and they don't want to adapt.

Every country has it's "Mexicans" and I doubt your mexicans are 95 pct. unemployed.. this post makes totally no sense..
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this has been brought up before - and i still think it's wrong.

first of all: Italiens were already allowed to travel freely since years

second: within 30 kilometers left and right of the borders the controls will be much higher than before. and they will go after what looks suspicious, not generally everyone that just wants to travel from A to B

and third: the border controls over the last 2 or 3 years were a joke anyways, most of the time they merely lifted their head from their newspapers or breakfast.
I totally agree, moreover - the efficiency of organized crime was never dependent on the quality of border controls, 99 pct. of busts are shills or informators
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I think its great news

what I cant understand is that 24 countries can all share a open border so that it makes trade and travel so easy and yet the USA seems determined to make it harder for canadians to enter thier country.

Is canada high risk?
It's not about Canada... it's about Americans trying to fool themselves post-9/11 that they are secure from more terrorists... the answer of course, is not more security, but better foreign policies.
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I don't think it's that great because now criminals can travel freely.
They never use borders. Thy can afford to take a plane. So nothing will chgange.
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