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Old 12-29-2007, 05:04 PM   #51
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:10 PM   #52
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I don't have any proof that any of these people did anything wrong but they all had top level positions in the company and are all now in some way involved with SegPay. Here is the connections that I have been able to find.

Officers and Directors of SegPay:

PRESIDENT: Catherine Beardsley: worked at Ibill as a VP of marketing for many years and became the CEO the last year or so before the company shut down.

VICE PRESIDENT: David Wells: worked at Ibill and was said to be a "princple". So i am guessing that means he was a partner or had some form of ownership ?

OWNER of SegPay: Chris Williams: Former Head of Ibill EU (don't know how this stands now after the recent deal with TMM)

How many former ibill employees are working for this company? Kristi Greer, how many more ?
There are a few ex-iBill employees who found themselves with time on their hands and were employed by SegPay Will. Obviously these people have experience of the TTP business and have something to offer. As you said, Ms Greer is one such person.

It's prob relevant to draw distinctions between actual instigators - senior management and officers of the company and employees or individuals not specifically "employed" by iBill, but engaged as consultants/contractors to achieve specific aims. The "actual" management of the company are the people ultimately responsible for the conduct of iBill.

As to what degree the other people you mentioned have failed the clients and creditors of iBill, I can't say. It's impossible to know who knew what, when, and what action they took at that time.

However, it is worth pulling one name out of the hat, specifically Christopher Williams. Mr Williams has conducted himself honorably throughout the iBill fiasco and is directly responsible for successfully ensuring many webmasters were actually paid amounts owing - in the region of several million dollars. This was no thanks to iBill who were an obstacle course during that negotiation process.

Again, it depends on timing and can't be specific on this - at varying times the "actual management" (namely people holding the real power - they were often known as "consultants") of iBill were individuals with slimy backgrounds, some of whom were convicted felons and with "associations" with others in the same league.

Unfortunately when people enter or participate in a business where the real control is in the hands of crooks, this obviously can lead to contamination of others (front-end faces) who had little more than good intentions. It just a matter of distinguishing one from the other

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