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Old 01-04-2008, 07:49 AM   #101
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hey Batts, sorry to hear you are moving on - you are correct, it is almost impossible these days for anybody to shoot their own content and run their own sites from a standing start. I should have told you this when we first began chatting but you seemed so optimistic and seemed to have more resources than most of the guys like you I talk to that I decided to let you give it a go. it's no embarassment that you didn't have the success you planned - very few, if any, would have done any better.

because of sonofsam and you, both whom i consider friends, i'm going to stop being so encouraging to newcomers and give them the facts to do with what they like. i fear you were an easy mark for people wanting to make some money off you.

best of luck with whatever your next endeavors are mate
Thanks Mutt, very well said and very true. Thanks for your time on ICQ in the past. You are one of the very small handful of honorable guys in the biz.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:51 AM   #102
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I am sorry you are going thru this Matt. I wish you only the very best in your future. It takes a very big person to admit defeat the way you have and I know full well where you are coming from. It wasn't so long ago that I had to go thru very similar things when my program got way too big for me and health issues arised from the stress and everything snowballed for me..... so I know probably better than most what you are going thru right now and I feel for you.

It takes very little to fail, but it takes A LOT to admit you failed..... kudos to you for being a REAL man, many could take notes from you.
Thanks Tam. I hope everything is going well for you now.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:54 AM   #103
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well good luck. i hope you pay everyone out though. i sent you an email requesting payment.
I am not sure where you sent it to but i did not receive it.

If you could kindly send to batts @ battsworld.com that would be great
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:59 AM   #104
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But I know all too well what it's like to have had a really bad 2007.

Best of luck in 2008 and everything you do after
Best of luck in 08 as well, things getting worse and worse spur us onto trying something completely different and that can sometimes be the best thing we do. Riding and relying on a sinking ship isn't a good way to live, and getting out before things get even worse can feel like a great relief.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:03 AM   #106
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Batts, i was unkind in the other thread. however having seen the first post in this thread. I wish you luck in your future endevours. most people dissapear, but you stood up. right thing to do.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:19 AM   #107
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Sometimes life kicks us in the ass...but, its how you handle those moments that really counts. You did right here, Batts - I truly wish you the very best and hope that '08 finds you on the upswing.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:21 AM   #108
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Batts, do you quit adult to go mainstream? ;)
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:24 AM   #109
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damn batts. You have given me lots of good tips last year. I see lots saying why not have someone else run the program and maybe there is more to it. Are you going to quit adult or just film. Any plans? Good luck man
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Batts, i was unkind in the other thread. however having seen the first post in this thread. I wish you luck in your future endevours. most people dissapear, but you stood up. right thing to do.
That happens when you think you know everything. Glad you said sorry. Well almost
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:41 AM   #112
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:59 AM   #113
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Your honesty and integrity really comes through in this thread, Batts. I wish you good luck with everything and I hope you enjoyed your time in the industry and found it valuable (if not as profitable as you'd hoped.)
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Might also be wise to use the same name on ICQ as you do on GFY.....But apparently not everybody does that.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:20 PM   #115
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:21 PM   #116
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wow, did not expect that.

good luck.
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hey Batts, ups and downs are the part of life. You are the man to face them .. work harder dude until you are over it.

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OK...Now that I have read this.......


Batts has stepped up, acknowledged the position he is in, and cowboy'd up to make everything right on his way out the door.

Newbies take note.......THIS is the honorable way to handle an industry exit. sonofsam could learn a thing or two from Batts.


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And you are added as well...But there is nobody named "Bake" in my contact list.
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And you are added as well...But there is nobody named "Bake" in my contact list.
It's mickbake on icq, but if I remember correctly, he's in Australia. So it's a big time difference for you.
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2008 will be the year of this type of announcement

on a batts note: if you had chosen your girls better I think you could have made it, you had the drive and seemed to have a nice enough rep in the biz, you really could have gone the distance for sure, but your girls were below average
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just as a catapiller thinks its life is about to end it turns into a butterfly ,Im sure this is just a speed bump and you will turn out just fine
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on a batts note: if you had chosen your girls better I think you could have made it, you had the drive and seemed to have a nice enough rep in the biz, you really could have gone the distance for sure, but your girls were below average
Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.
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Batts, stay with a regular job. Some deskjob.... You will earn your 2000 dollar a month.... and that will cover your food and rent. Thats about it.
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Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.
man, I really don't think so. you seemed to have a good head on your shoulders and were no worse than a lot of guys you see running programs these days

I didn't read the thread, but did you mention anywhere where you think you went wrong? lots of people could learn from it, and maybe you also, that way in the future you, and others, can avoid making the same mistakes
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Batts, your honesty is appreciated. the old saying: if you don't try, you automatically fail. If you do try, then you succeed where others have failed.

And handling it in this manner is 9/10th of it all.

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unfortunately, i have a feeling that a lot more people will be making this type of announcement...

best of luck with future endeavors batts....
i doubt that. I get what you are trying to say, that a lot more people will be quiting because they can't make a go of it, but I doubt many will go out with class. Most will just crash and burn and/or rip people off on their way out the door.


Good look to what ever you decide to do batts. Also I wouldn't say you failed. I am sure you will be selling your sites for something, so thats a plus right there. Also I bet you learned a lot of stuff during the time you ran your sites and shot content, maybe even some things you can take with you to your next venture. One of the best things I ever did was spending a year in network marketing, even though i failed terribly to make money I learned more about business, motivation, goals, public speaking, everything etc.. than I did from 4 years of college. Hopefully you can take some stuff with you from this too that will help you in the future.
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best of luck with future endeavors batts....
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Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.
Sorry but I also agree with Dial, or maybe it was you not getting the best out of the girls. A balance of both maybe.

To all the people giving out advice for people to pick up a camera and shoot content.

That's what Batts did and he was liked on the boards and I'm sure a lot of people sent him traffic.

My advice to anyone thinking of shooting your own content for your own site is this. Don't. Unless you KNOW you can crack it.
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Sorry but I also agree with Dial, or maybe it was you not getting the best out of the girls. A balance of both maybe.

To all the people giving out advice for people to pick up a camera and shoot content.

That's what Batts did and he was liked on the boards and I'm sure a lot of people sent him traffic.

My advice to anyone thinking of shooting your own content for your own site is this. Don't. Unless you KNOW you can crack it.
Paul, i respect you, i always have and i am the last person who should be saying anything but i have seen many other sites with girls that were alot different to my models and they are making massive money.

It was me that messed it up, not the models, not the affiliates, not the weather, it was ME
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Paul, i respect you, i always have and i am the last person who should be saying anything but i have seen many other sites with girls that were alot different to my models and they are making massive money.

It was me that messed it up, not the models, not the affiliates, not the weather, it was ME
Why give up? Hell, even partnering up with someone else might be beneficial for both parties.
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Batts,

You loose some, you win some. No one can forever win and be forever succesfull. Sometimes is better to know when to quit and you feel that now it is time, just do it.

If you apply the lessons you earned here I am sure that you will be succesfull on the next things that you are going to do.

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:44 AM   #148
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just sent you an email requesting $ owed. btw battsbucks is down.

Maybe he didn't pay his host either?
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #149
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Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.
I dunno, I really didn't think most of your girls were very attractive at all.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:13 PM   #150
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People told you that your sites were shit, but you kept shooting your shitty content.

You are stupid.
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