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Old 01-05-2008, 01:08 PM   #1
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Ron Paul: What a great voting record!

Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Voted NO to mandatory life sentences for two-time child sex offenders.
Voted NO to making visual illustrations of child pornography a crime.
Voted NO to making it a crime to take a trip to a foreign country to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer.
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR.
Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes.
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish federal Medicare entitlement; leave it to states.
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight.
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration.
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet).
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More on Ron Paul's not-so-hidden Pro Jesus agenda and be found here:

http://www.issues2000.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:29 PM   #3
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Ever heard of a libertarian?
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Ever heard of a libertarian?
Is that like a librarian?
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He's lacking of common sense, that makes him good enough to replace Butch.
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He's lacking of common sense, that makes him good enough to replace Butch.
He has more intelligence in his right pinky than you will ever have. Accomplished a hell of alot more than you ever will as well. Please contribute to your community before you sit here judging a real hero.
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..

Coz I'm not a citizen I cant vote - but i CAN educate my friends on what candidates policies are.. and help THEM make a good decision
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The reasons are more important than the name of the bill. Yes just because a bill has a fancy name doesnt mean there are 500 bad things in it
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[Voted to] Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)

This has been a Republican thing for years, a lot want it gone, its a waste and it sucks, I imagine you are a product of public schools.
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so he pretty much votes by his belief in Libertarianism, wow, what a dumb ass sticking to his beliefs, must be weak minded to not be swayed away from how he believes.
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So what if Dr. Paul voted yes to an issue that infringes on your belief? Such as banning gay adoptions.George Bush voted yay to snort yay.
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..

Coz I'm not a citizen I cant vote - but i CAN educate my friends on what candidates policies are.. and help THEM make a good decision
um why not just get yourself a citizenship?
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One big problem with these bills are they add quite a few extras onto them, often at last minute. Some of these weren't popular enough to get any approval or support numerous times before.

Then someone like you can make a statement to the ignorant about Ron Paul's vote and misinterpret it to mean that he's in favor of child predators and child porn. A tactic to bait the sheep and mock their ignorance, and they don't even realize it. There are so many ignorant people that they'll believe you too. You might even be ignorant enough to believe it yourself.

All you've really done is post a few sensational titles carefully chosen from a page and given it no context. Odds are you don't even really know why you don't like Ron Paul. It's probably an emotional response because you don't like the popularity he's achieved, or some of the other people who like him rather than take the time to look at what he's saying with an open mind.

If you really want to discuss his stance on an issue, find out the real reason behind a vote.
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um why not just get yourself a citizenship?
workin on it - havent been here very long
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..

Coz I'm not a citizen I cant vote - but i CAN educate my friends on what candidates policies are.. and help THEM make a good decision
The question is would your goverment and its citizens pay for my baby's health care? The world is not a perfect and I dont believe I should work so your baby can get health care.
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..

Coz I'm not a citizen I cant vote - but i CAN educate my friends on what candidates policies are.. and help THEM make a good decision
Do you really believe some of this? They wouldn't have refused treatment.

Many or most countries in the world would not have granted citizenship just for being born on their native soil to non-citizens.
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One big problem with these bills are they add quite a few extras onto them, often at last minute. Some of these weren't popular enough to get any approval or support numerous times before.
I was also going to say this too. Everyone looks at this list and see things like, "wow, he didn't vote yes on the amber alert law, this is the law that helps protect abducted kids! He must be an idiot!"

But when you examine things further, this amber alert bill is how they snuck the 2257 law in. No one wanted to say no to helping abducted kids, so they threw that bullshit law in there on top of that to make sure it got passed without any commotion.

I'm sure there are other legitimate reasons for the way he voted on the other bills too that might not be readily apparent at first look.
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I don't agree with a lot of libertarian views, but he seems like the only honest one running. All the rest come off as desperate sales people that will say anything to try and get in.
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..

Coz I'm not a citizen I cant vote - but i CAN educate my friends on what candidates policies are.. and help THEM make a good decision
First, I am sorry for your child's illness. I hope she has recovered.

Second, your baby would have received emergency care regardless of ability to pay, health coverage, or citizenship. This is why people are pissed off here because someone has to pay for your baby's care if you don't. And there are thousands of illegals coming over for citizenship and FREE Healthcare. The difference between these folks and people like me is that the hospital/Dr. will come take my house, car, bank account or anything else if I don't pay the bill.

Third, I am not aware of any country in the world where the mother retains native citizenship their child can not get citizenship. It requires filling out paperwork, but that's what happens when you deal with the government. My wife had our first child in Indonesia and She was not given Indonesian citizenship.

Please do not educate your friends and neighbors in this way. There is already too much bullshit floating around.
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before all you idiots buy into this douchbag's bullshit, go out and get an objective opinion of the man. Ron Paul would have made a fantastic president. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen.
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One big problem with these bills are they add quite a few extras onto them, often at last minute. Some of these weren't popular enough to get any approval or support numerous times before.

Then someone like you can make a statement to the ignorant about Ron Paul's vote and misinterpret it to mean that he's in favor of child predators and child porn. A tactic to bait the sheep and mock their ignorance, and they don't even realize it. There are so many ignorant people that they'll believe you too. You might even be ignorant enough to believe it yourself.

All you've really done is post a few sensational titles carefully chosen from a page and given it no context. Odds are you don't even really know why you don't like Ron Paul. It's probably an emotional response because you don't like the popularity he's achieved, or some of the other people who like him rather than take the time to look at what he's saying with an open mind.

If you really want to discuss his stance on an issue, find out the real reason behind a vote.
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Ron Paul: Typical Lying Politician


* Get the federal government out of abortion decision. (Nov 2007)

orly? mind explaining this one you liar?
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother?s life. (Oct 2003)
* Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother?s life. (Oct 2003)
* Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
* Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
*Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
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# Government out of regulating economy(Jan 2007)
# Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004)

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No legislation to counteract the homosexual agenda. (Sep 2007)
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
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AMERICA NEEDS MORE JESUS ACCORDING TO RON PAUL
* Don't impeach judges for decisions on legislature prayers. (Sep 2007)
* Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
* Equal funds for abstinence as contraceptive-based education. (Sep 2007)
* Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
* Guarantee parity for home school diplomas. (Sep 2007)
* Voted NO on allowing Courts to decide on "God" in Pledge of Allegiance. (Jul 2006)
* Voted NO on allowing vouchers in DC schools. (Aug 1998)
* Voted YES on vouchers for private & parochial schools. (Nov 1997)
* Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
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* Big Oil profits ok; Big Oil subsidies are not. (Jun 2007)
ORLY?
* Voted NO on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007)
* Voted NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)
* Voted NO on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
* Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)
* Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)
* Repeal the gas tax. (May 2001)

RON PAUL IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR BIG OIL AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BUY HIM
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Well, I'm disappointed on his view/voting record on the majority of that.


These two here though, I fully support 100%
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration.
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messages.finance.yahoo.com — NewsWire / New York / 1-5-08 // Fox News parent company NewsCorp (NWS/NYSE) has lost over $3 billion in market capitalization in less than a week as the stock plummeted to a 52 week low amid electioneering charges against Fox for excluding a major presidential candidate from a nationally televised forum. Many feel Fox is trying to rig the election
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Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Voted NO to mandatory life sentences for two-time child sex offenders.
Voted NO to making visual illustrations of child pornography a crime.
Voted NO to making it a crime to take a trip to a foreign country to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer.
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR.
Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes.
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish federal Medicare entitlement; leave it to states.
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight.
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration.
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet).
Did you do any research on any of this that you just posted?
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Did you do any research on any of this that you just posted?
Of course he didnt. he is just a lonely troll that hopes guliani gets elected.
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Obviously, MaliciousBiz is a parrot. No original words of his own. He can only google and paste what he finds.
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So what you are saying is he voted no on raising my taxes and voted yes on removing many programs that chew them up.

NICE! I love this guy!
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HAHAHAHA......

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* Voted NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)

HAHAHA!!!!!!! LET'S KEEP GIVING THE OIL CORPS TAX MONEY WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO POST RECORD PROFITS FOR SOME REASON! EVEN THOUGH RON PAUL IS SUPPOSEDLY AGAINST GIVING TAX MONEY OUT FOR THIS SORT OF THING
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Ron Paul For President Period!
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:33 PM   #40
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I see that the very sane Malicious Biz hasnt cured his obsession for Ron Paul yet..

btw.. heres a good interview with Ron Paul he did 2 days ago ... Its more informative than the disinfo some trolls post around here..

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01042008/watch2.html
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are there are url's of his voting record?
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are there are url's of his voting record?
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More on Ron Paul's not-so-hidden Pro Jesus agenda and be found here:

http://www.issues2000.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_cat...an_id=BC031929
Here's one with links to details about each bill

If you look at it with open eyes you can spot a lot of inconsistencies in his voting record as opposed to the rhetoric spewed by paultards.

I've tried to point some out in this thread
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:29 PM   #43
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I recently discovered he is against giving citizenship to babies born in the US if their parents are Not citizens.

My new baby was born in California and is a citizen - I am not a citizen I'm long-term resident.

Now IF my baby had not been citizen she would not have got health coverage she did ... 2 weeks ago my baby was rushed to emergency and put on life support for 5 days after her lungs stopped functioning (she's 7 months old)
If she were not a citizen and didnt have coverage she may have been refused treatment and died.

Also some countries do NOT give citizenship to children born outside the country just because their parents are citizens.. so if those kids are NOT citizens of the USA and NOT citizens of the parents country -- where they fuck are they citizens??? citizens of NOWHERE?? how do they ever get a passport or drivers license or ANYTHING???

this is a really DUMB idea.

Looking at that list I've just now discovered a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul..
Kitty, you know I love you, but it has to be said for the lurkers that are reading if no one else:

You do realize that there is a huge number of people that feel this is a great idea. You would probably find that there are a lot more Americans against the "anchor baby" theory than in favor of it.

As far as finding "a toone of other reasns not to vote for Ron Paul" I am relatively confident that if you were diligent, you could find "a ton of reasons" to not vote for Obama or anyone else.
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The reasons are more important than the name of the bill. Yes just because a bill has a fancy name doesnt mean there are 500 bad things in it
Have to give you that one. But there is a pattern. Coincidence?

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I don't agree with a lot of libertarian views, but he seems like the only honest one running. All the rest come off as desperate sales people that will say anything to try and get in.
Since you are looking from the outside in, I will give you a hint. They all do, Paul included. They all effect people just like Paul effects you.

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At least he stands behind his beliefs and does not lie and decieve.
I am so glad we don't let you guys in our elections.

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RON PAUL IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR BIG OIL AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BUY HIM
Hello . . . he reps TX. I hear oil is rather popular there.

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Apparently.
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Hello . . . he reps TX. I hear oil is rather popular there.
I realise this. He didn't sit in congress as long as he did by totally sticking by his convictions
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Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Voted NO to mandatory life sentences for two-time child sex offenders.
Voted NO to making visual illustrations of child pornography a crime.
Voted NO to making it a crime to take a trip to a foreign country to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer.
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR.
Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes.
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record.
[Voted to] Abolish federal Medicare entitlement; leave it to states.
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight.
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration.
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet).

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FOX Stock at 52 Week Low Due to Electioneering Charges

messages.finance.yahoo.com ? NewsWire / New York / 1-5-08 // Fox News parent company NewsCorp (NWS/NYSE) has lost over $3 billion in market capitalization in less than a week as the stock plummeted to a 52 week low amid electioneering charges against Fox for excluding a major presidential candidate from a nationally televised forum. Many feel Fox is trying to rig the election
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Obviously, MaliciousBiz is a parrot. No original words of his own. He can only google and paste what he finds.
This thread is about Ron Paul's voting record. Of course I'm going to paste parts of it here. It's not like I'm copy/pasting biased articles written by pro or anti paul websites like many people have been.

I've been pasting facts for the most part in an attempt to get people to actually look through them. But, it seems my efforts have been largely all for naught judging by a lot of the replies in this thread.

But never mind me. I have no original thoughts. Back to searching "Ron Paul is a fucking retard" on google.

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