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Old 01-29-2008, 08:19 AM   #1
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Smoking a joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes in terms of lung cancer

Cool, more dead drug addicts sooner than later

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080129/..._cannabis_dc_2
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:21 AM   #2
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So, I could smoke 2 joints instead and won't live longer ? Na, thanks!
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:22 AM   #3
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No no, according to all the stoners (who, in their own words, arent addicted, they just smoke all day long) weed is some kind of miracle drug which does more good than bad to your body.
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speaking about lung cancer, anyone know the exact stats?


if a person is smoking a pack of cigs daily for a 30 year old period - how likely is he to develop lung cancer?

anyone know the % for that?
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Here comes the first weed addict defeding his miracle drug.
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yeah well, maybe they should use humidors or w/e it is then!
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speaking about lung cancer, anyone know the exact stats?


if a person is smoking a pack of cigs daily for a 30 year old period - how likely is he to develop lung cancer?

anyone know the % for that?
Heaps of different stats on the % it increases the risk around, but the individual/genetical base risk probably varies alot. It's a very controversial topic, certainly no excuse, but genetic predestination seems to make a huge difference.
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speaking about lung cancer, anyone know the exact stats?


if a person is smoking a pack of cigs daily for a 30 year old period - how likely is he to develop lung cancer?

anyone know the % for that?

100%

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yeah well, maybe they should use humidors or w/e it is then!
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100%

not true, that would mean that every person who smokes cigs for the majority of his/her life, dies of lung cancer, while its obviously not the case
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I find it completely pathetic and childish the way a person with one vice attacks another (person) whom decided on another (vice).

But hey, alcohol causes brain damage (actually, the dendrites), and does tend to make its users slow in the head.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:12 AM   #15
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oh shit - and i smoke 2o joints a day
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:15 AM   #17
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That's a lie. Weed heals everything.
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I quit cigs now for 3 weeks i gave myself a diet and exercise routine also to give something to aim for and not make quitting the cigarettes so hard and its been quite easy.
Im 20 and smoked since i was 14, from about 16 ive smoked twenty a day or close. I couldnt imagine leaving it so late to quit that your 30,40+ years old. By then the damage is mostly already done and chances of getting cancer are very high for you then.
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there is no direct link to smoking and lung cancer. what about people who don't smoke that get lung cancer or people who smoke their entire lives and don't get it.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:33 AM   #20
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that's a bullshit fact

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...L&type=science

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318526,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html
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there is no direct link to smoking and lung cancer. what about people who don't smoke that get lung cancer or people who smoke their entire lives and don't get it.
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The co-relation is to the amount of tar produced. Not lung cancer. These studies are never accurate any ways because they have a hard time finding people who only smoke weed, most smoke cigarettes as well. Also marijuana doesn't have a lot of chemicals added during production that tabacco has. Its no miracle, smoke anything enough and you'll probably get lung cancer.
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Hey, everyone has their drug. Could be drinking, snorting, shooting, smoking.

There are far worse things out there than weed, at least it doesn't completely destroy people's lives. Shit, I was high most of my college career and I did pretty well.

So, why are you so bent about people smoking weed?
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Hey, everyone has their drug. Could be drinking, snorting, shooting, smoking.

There are far worse things out there than weed, at least it doesn't completely destroy people's lives. Shit, I was high most of my college career and I did pretty well.

So, why are you so bent about people smoking weed?

Just trolling for sig value.
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Hey, everyone has their drug. Could be drinking, snorting, shooting, smoking.

There are far worse things out there than weed, at least it doesn't completely destroy people's lives. Shit, I was high most of my college career and I did pretty well.

So, why are you so bent about people smoking weed?
"i smoked weed and i have done pretty well".

well, u surely didn't do well because of your intelligence

AH AH you owned yourself.
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Shooting is not a drug, drinking (water, juices, alcohol, whatever!)is natural, but smoking is not.

Get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.
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The fucking Sun gives you cancer, eatting red meat gives you cancer, everyday you hear about something else that puts you at risk for cancer. If I'm going to get cancer, I want to get it from something I enjoy now and then.
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"i smoked weed and i have done pretty well".

well, u surely didn't do well because of your intelligence

AH AH you owned yourself.
I'm not sure how you figured that I owned myself. Maybe you could explain it with your superior intelligence.
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Wow a political sig.

IMO joints are for hippies, group sessions and dirt weed

I hear glass is the way to go. I have been smokin glass bowls a daily for the last 16 years.

I can still paddle out in big surf no problem.

I'll drop dead this year prolly.
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Well don't smoke it then if it's that bad... you can vaporize, ingest, etc...
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So, why are you so bent about people smoking weed?
Because it's illegal.
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LOL..!!

What a pathetic excuse.

Do you speed?
Do you change lanes without signaling?
Do you fight?
Do you download rips?
Do you copy music, or movies?
Is all your software licensed and registered?
Do you pay ALL you taxes, and never submit erroneous declarations?
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I don't really care. I enjoy smoking weed... It smells good, tastes good and gets me on a good mellow high. Plus it's green like my text.
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Here comes the first weed addict defeding his miracle drug.
Just sounds like he's pointing out how the study that kicked off this thread really isn't all that scientifically significant.

As far as the affects pot on intellect goes - I reckon it can go both ways... Carl Sagan came up with most of "Cosmos" stoned out of his mind in the shower.
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You are an idiot.

What the fuck does it have to do with someone illegally abusing a controlled substance then driving a car or operating machinery and endangering my life?

Marijuana is illegal for a reason.
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You are an idiot.

What the fuck does it have to do with someone illegally abusing a controlled substance then driving a car or operating machinery and endangering my life?

Marijuana is illegal for a reason.
Are you against alcohol being legal?
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I don't smoke weed, but I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes, but i can't, guess i should just quit cold.

And as for this "anti-marijuana propaganda" - i'm not buyin' it
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You are an idiot.

What the fuck does it have to do with someone illegally abusing a controlled substance then driving a car or operating machinery and endangering my life?

Marijuana is illegal for a reason.
So then you assume that everyone who smokes weed drives a car or operates machinery while high?

You don't seem to have an issue with people drinking, what if people drink and operate machinery or drive and endanger your life? That's still ok because booze isn't a controlled substance?
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marijuana is not a drug, it's a herbal remedy for life.
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Are you against alcohol being legal?
Why are you posting in lime color? Are you some kind of faggot?
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The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Dr. Donald Tashkin, a UCLA pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."
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so is speeding. I tried to use an easy one for you to wrap your mind around!

Breaking the law is breaking the law!

BTW:
If you drink pop (diet or not) &/or eat sweets (junk food) you'll become fat and get diabetes, and have a heart attack AND have a stroke.

If you eat at McDonalds (or any fast food place) you'll become fat (if you're not already) and have a heart attack and a stroke AND diabetes!

If you drink alcohol, you get Cirrhosis (liver damage), and brain damage and drink and drive and kill somebody.

And in case you are wondering, I do not smoke pot.

Yes, marijuana is illegal. And EXACTLY what is the fucking reason, genius?

Women voting was illegel.
Atheists running for office is SOME dumbass States is illegal.
It was illegal for a black person to own property!

What does that tell you about laws, other than some conservative fucking moron (past presidents) whose little mind was threatened by low vote count?

War on drugs ... bah hah hah... twat a fucking hypocrisy!
- Alcohol abuse kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!
- Smoking cigarettes kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!
- Obesity kills more Americans than ALL drug use combine!

IT being illegal only tells me those that set laws are fucking morons that refuse to move with the times!


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You don't seem to have an issue with people drinking, what if people drink and operate machinery or drive and endanger your life? That's still ok because booze isn't a controlled substance?
Hey, why not legalize H, Meth and Crack while we are at it?

Moron.
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You know wha'ts funny? Although I don't advocate anyone do any drugs, I myself smoke more than 1 joint every morning. You know what I do right after that? I run 10-12km.

Now I'm not going to claim that smoking dope improves performance, of course, but ask yourself this question: How many of you non-smokers (Franck, Hateman, ...) think you could keep up in a 12km run?
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Why are you avoiding the question? Are you some kind of hypocrite?
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So weed is 20 times as bad but 20 times more people died who didn't smoke it.
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Basically marijuana being made illegal had nothing to do with smoking it! It had everything to do with big business, DUPONT and MONSANTO and DOW, wanting to makes billions of dollars on clothing made of crappy plastic fibers = Polyester and Nylon as well as other products that hemp would have kept them from making as much money on!
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If you drink alcohol, you get Cirrhosis (liver damage), and brain damage and drink and drive and kill somebody.
Alcohol is not addictive, you retard.
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