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Old 01-30-2008, 09:30 AM   #1
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Congrats to ron paul supporters

Your man outlasted Fred and Rudy.

Now when's Paul gonna withdraw? He senile or something?

Maybe he's thinking about whether to run independent. Why stick around to finish in last place on Feb 5?
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:31 AM   #2
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because he has a shit load of support and money, despite what is spoon fed to the drones by the media.
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lol i love this he hasn't even gotten close in votes and people are talking like Ron Paul has a chance woot!!!
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lol i love this he hasn't even gotten close in votes and people are talking like Ron Paul has a chance woot!!!
You're another media drone. lol It's getting better for Ron Paul all the time!

The path to the convention is twisty. For instance Iowa, no delegates were awarded at the caucus. That's because voters didn't directly choose national convention delegates; they selected the county and state delegates who will make that decision. And if another candidate like Huckabee is no longer in the race at the time of the state convention in June, his delegates are free to support whomever they want.

How about the poll vote in Nevada? What the media didn't tell you was that Nevada chooses more delegates to the national convention than South Carolina. And guess who did well there in Nevada? It was a laugh when they said Nevada didn't matter.

Yeah ok, righttttt... Ron Paul doesn't have a shot. lolololol
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lol i love this he hasn't even gotten close in votes and people are talking like Ron Paul has a chance woot!!!
U scare me.

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There was one Political Analyst that was on CNN the last night (Black Guy) who brought up Ron Paul saying he's still in it and mentioned how the media avoids this guy in a way he's never seen before.
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The original argument Paul supporters used to say they had a shot was that potential Paul votes were being severely undercounted because they were polling those who voted republican in the last election. We've seen now this just isn't true to any reasonable extent. Paul has the support of about 5% of the country and that is it.
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The original argument Paul supporters used to say they had a shot was that potential Paul votes were being severely undercounted because they were polling those who voted republican in the last election. We've seen now this just isn't true to any reasonable extent. Paul has the support of about 5% of the country and that is it.
Curious that thats about the percentage of Americans with an above average IQ. Seriously though, I think your #s are way off. Ive seen hundreads of people on the streets holding Ron Paul sign in Tampa Bay area alone and absolutly not one other candidates. So keep sucking the medias cock if you like.
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Curious that thats about the percentage of Americans with an above average IQ. Seriously though, I think your #s are way off. Ive seen hundreads of people on the streets holding Ron Paul sign in Tampa Bay area alone and absolutly not one other candidates. So keep sucking the medias cock if you like.
Here's over 100 national polls for you.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...192.html#polls

The average of the polls conducted in the past week is 5% for Paul.
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There was one Political Analyst that was on CNN the last night (Black Guy) who brought up Ron Paul saying he's still in it and mentioned how the media avoids this guy in a way he's never seen before.
lol i tend to agree i have 2 tv's going all day one on cnn and one on msnbc and i never see anything on about the guy. I mean come on give equal airtime to all the candidates for christ sakes. I can not recall seeing anything about Hunter or
Kucinich either except about them dropping out....
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I still think Ron Paul would have made a good prez
To extreme for most folks over the age of 40. Plus his appearance does not sit well with most folks. Most people judge from the get go by the looks when they first meet someone...
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lol i tend to agree i have 2 tv's going all day one on cnn and one on msnbc and i never see anything on about the guy. I mean come on give equal airtime to all the candidates for christ sakes. I can not recall seeing anything about Hunter or
Kucinich either except about them dropping out....
Do you want equal time for all fifteen or twenty candidates from all of the multiple parties or just the two major parties?
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Do you want equal time for all fifteen or twenty candidates from all of the multiple parties or just the two major parties?
Equal time for any candidate in any party thats running...
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Plus his appearance does not sit well with most folks. Most people judge from the get go by the looks when they first meet someone...
I agree he may be extreme for the silly old folks, but Mccain has some major hygiene problems and looks old as dirt, but he is till going to win. It all comes down to who the media is feeding the masses as the winner. The adult industry is going to be whining like babies in a couple of years if not sooner.
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Do you want equal time for all fifteen or twenty candidates from all of the multiple parties or just the two major parties?
There are only 5 candidates stop making dumb ass statements. he had higher poll ratings that Thompson, yet Thompson got all kinds of air time. Your statement has no merit.
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I agree he may be extreme for the silly old folks, but Mccain has some major hygiene problems and looks old as dirt, but he is till going to win. It all comes down to who the media is feeding the masses as the winner. The adult industry is going to be whining like babies in a couple of years if not sooner.
Im on the fence about Mccain. He has been around along time and folks who dont even follow politics are somewhat familiar with his name. I guess in the background i am silently rooting for Mccain because i sure in the hell don't want to see Romeny get the nomination.

But it doesn't matter who gets the republican nomination Hilliary or Obama will take the election....
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Ron Paul has placed 2nd in two states, and polls higher in the west, where they have yet to vote... and he has more money than the other Republicans. Why would he drop out now?
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Thompson has media connections and knows how to play them. Paul does not simple as that. Yes the media at time can be a bit biased but it is up to Paul to rattle his tin cup against the bars and not just his supporters who often come off as some strange cult followers which is just down right creepy.

Another issue I do not think he has even considered besides hiring a better PR team, is that Americans hate several things politics aside. They hate tow truck drivers, Doctors, and Lawyers. Ron Paul is at least two of those and he insists on being called Dr. Ron Paul. In case you have not noticed I believe Huckabee has been feeling some of the same backlash because he is also a pastor or some religious shit and people are not comfortable with that crap that at least he does have the majority of the bible thumpers behind him.

Lastly please stop saying that those with a higher IQ support him. Typically IQ has very little to do with to many factors to even make it a valid insult and to top it off, insulting anyone and everyone by saying whomever does not support him is less intellegent. Maybe some of us like his ideas but feel he is overselling the farm even for a politician. Maybe some of us feel his powers could be better used elsewhere. Maybe some of us feel he should be bringing up more of these arguements in debates and the news challenging candidates to respond and when they dont calling them out again in the media for being pussies. Lastly many of us are concerned with his age, honestly he seems to have a foot and a half in the grave already. Then his usage of gothic style lettering does not help the fact much when the first thing that comes to my mind is ok who will his VP be cause this dude is going to die in the first 2 years of office.
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There are only 5 candidates stop making dumb ass statements. he had higher poll ratings that Thompson, yet Thompson got all kinds of air time. Your statement has no merit.
You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer...now are you. They are around fifteen or twenty candidates from multiple minor parties...all of which I have seen debate on C-Span. They do not get air time by the main stream media.
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Im on the fence about Mccain. He has been around along time and folks who dont even follow politics are somewhat familiar with his name. I guess in the background i am silently rooting for Mccain because i sure in the hell don't want to see Romeny get the nomination.

But it doesn't matter who gets the republican nomination Hilliary or Obama will take the election....
Thats how McCain is going to be run against IMHO.. "He has been around a long time".. Old school. His stated Iraq policy is also vietnam era thinking. It may be right, but the point is he will have a bullseye on the entire time with stuff like that. Also how he ripped the evangelicals after 2000, then sucked back up to Falwell before he died. Get ready for those sound bites and attacks, they're comin'.

He's a loose cannon.. I dub him "most likely to have a Howard Dean moment" lol. And of all the republicans with a shot, I like him the most. He should have beaten Bush in the first place, that was his time.

Ron Paul has been impressive everytime he opens his mouth I think. Problem is media bias. Media LOVES to decide for everyone who and what we're supposed to like.
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Ron Paul has placed 2nd in two states, and polls higher in the west, where they have yet to vote... and he has more money than the other Republicans. Why would he drop out now?
No he does not have more money than all of the other Republicans. Romney has a personal fortune of several hundred million.
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That is the problem. You actually believe that and as a result, McCain wins.
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Thompson has media connections and knows how to play them. Paul does not simple as that. Yes the media at time can be a bit biased but it is up to Paul to rattle his tin cup against the bars and not just his supporters who often come off as some strange cult followers which is just down right creepy.

Another issue I do not think he has even considered besides hiring a better PR team, is that Americans hate several things politics aside. They hate tow truck drivers, Doctors, and Lawyers. Ron Paul is at least two of those and he insists on being called Dr. Ron Paul. In case you have not noticed I believe Huckabee has been feeling some of the same backlash because he is also a pastor or some religious shit and people are not comfortable with that crap that at least he does have the majority of the bible thumpers behind him.

Lastly please stop saying that those with a higher IQ support him. Typically IQ has very little to do with to many factors to even make it a valid insult and to top it off, insulting anyone and everyone by saying whomever does not support him is less intellegent. Maybe some of us like his ideas but feel he is overselling the farm even for a politician. Maybe some of us feel his powers could be better used elsewhere. Maybe some of us feel he should be bringing up more of these arguements in debates and the news challenging candidates to respond and when they dont calling them out again in the media for being pussies. Lastly many of us are concerned with his age, honestly he seems to have a foot and a half in the grave already. Then his usage of gothic style lettering does not help the fact much when the first thing that comes to my mind is ok who will his VP be cause this dude is going to die in the first 2 years of office.
Well if Thompson has media connections he needs new one cause this time around he was no were in the media picture. As for the Ron Paul supporters i seen them out and they acted civil just like the other supporters for other candidates.

I agree with you about the IQ comment. But if you don't follow politics on a daily bases like most folks he does come off as a nutjob cause they have no clue what the hell he is talking about. People are to wrapped up in there everyday lives with work and family which by all means is understandable. .Those same family's when they go to the polls will vote based on what they seen on there 6 o clock news or what ever they watch for the political coverage.

As for the debates well we all seen how those have gone. The candidates who are drawing the most media attention are getting the majority of the questions. As for the age issue i believe Paul is only a year older then Mccain. I haven't seen any health problems reported on Paul but i have seen issues on Mccain brought up . Regan was 16 days days away from 70 when he became president.
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Who really thinks Mike Gravel, Jim Gilmore, Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback and Tom Tancredo deserved as much media attention as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney or John McCain?
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Thats how McCain is going to be run against IMHO.. "He has been around a long time".. Old school. His stated Iraq policy is also vietnam era thinking. It may be right, but the point is he will have a bullseye on the entire time with stuff like that. Also how he ripped the evangelicals after 2000, then sucked back up to Falwell before he died. Get ready for those sound bites and attacks, they're comin'.

He's a loose cannon.. I dub him "most likely to have a Howard Dean moment" lol. And of all the republicans with a shot, I like him the most. He should have beaten Bush in the first place, that was his time.

Ron Paul has been impressive everytime he opens his mouth I think. Problem is media bias. Media LOVES to decide for everyone who and what we're supposed to like.
If McCain runs that way he will loose. This election coming up with have the highest turn out for voters in any election. It will also have the highest number of under 40 voters as well. People now are waking up and smelling the coffee now that they cant pay there bills and now there wallets are getting hit hard. People what change and most will see McCain as the same dog and pony show. With that being said this favors the democrats with Hillary and Obama who's campaign has been focused around change....
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Here's over 100 national polls for you.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...192.html#polls

The average of the polls conducted in the past week is 5% for Paul.
and the spread is often in favour if guiliani, fl being the only primary rp didn't beat him in
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That is the problem. You actually believe that and as a result, McCain wins.
McCain will not win. McCain isstill in a tight race right now. But even if he manages to get the nomination he will not win the election...
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That is the problem. You actually believe that and as a result, McCain wins.
baddog, I'v watched you post this over and over but no-one seems to get it. Republicans tend to win BECAUSE of who the Democrats nominate, not because they have the better candidate.

Walter F. Mondale
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Last election I voted for Bush, actually I voted against Kerry. This election I will vote against Hillary not for McCain but the results will be the same, a Republican president.
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Who really thinks Mike Gravel, Jim Gilmore, Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback and Tom Tancredo deserved as much media attention as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney or John McCain?
If you are gonna address folks as presidential nominees they should all have the
same equal air time to make there case to the American people why they should vote for them.
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and the spread is often in favour if guiliani, fl being the only primary rp didn't beat him in
Nevada is the ONLY state where Paul didn't finish as predicted by the average of the weekly polls.

Final polls vs Results (From Real Clear Politics)

Iowa. Final poll. Paul 5th. actual Paul 5th
NH. 5th vs 5th
Michigan. 4th vs 4th
NV. 6th vs 2nd
SC. 5th vs 5th
FL. 5th vs 5th

Example. Michigan
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Paul was expected to finish 4th with 5.8% of the vote. He finished 4th with 6.3%.
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baddog, I'v watched you post this over and over but no-one seems to get it. Republicans tend to win BECAUSE of who the Democrats nominate, not because they have the better candidate.

Walter F. Mondale
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Last election I voted for Bush, actually I voted against Kerry. This election I will vote against Hillary not for McCain but the results will be the same, a Republican president.
Glad someone can comprehend.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:19 PM   #35
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lol we all fogot about a possible candidate http://www.chooseconnor2008.com/

I really hope people ain't sending him donations
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If you are gonna address folks as presidential nominees they should all have the
same equal air time to make there case to the American people why they should vote for them.
So the day after Obama beat Clinton in Iowa the "media" should have been careful to make sure they were still giving Kucinich equal air time with Clinton and Obama? Oh, come on. The news is about STORIES. After Iowa, Clinton and Obama were stories. Kucinich wasn't.
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COLIN - Are you seriously going to continue this with THESE people? I really can't take any more (laughing)!
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Hmm Im thinking maybe there could be a McCain Thompson ticket. That would get me to vote McCain.
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COLIN - Are you seriously going to continue this with THESE people? I really can't take any more (laughing)!
Just wanted to do a headcount. I think there are only 2 or only 3 left.
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So the day after Obama beat Clinton in Iowa the "media" should have been careful to make sure they were still giving Kucinich equal air time with Clinton and Obama? Oh, come on. The news is about STORIES. After Iowa, Clinton and Obama were stories. Kucinich wasn't.
If he is good enough to be called a presidential candidate then yes if should be good enough to get equal air time to state his case.
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Hmm Im thinking maybe there could be a McCain Thompson ticket. That would get me to vote McCain.
What's the logic? Take a Southerner as a VP to help fight for the South?
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COLIN - Are you seriously going to continue this with THESE people? I really can't take any more (laughing)!
Please enlighten us whats so funny so we can all have a good laugh
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If he is good enough to be called a presidential candidate then yes if should be good enough to get equal air time to state his case.
And this should be for all media sources? So for example, "Air America" should give equal time to all the Republican candidates?
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Please enlighten us whats so funny so we can all have a good laugh

#1 - "I think your #s are way off. Ive seen hundreads of people on the streets holding Ron Paul sign in Tampa Bay area alone and absolutly not one other candidates."

I shouldn't have to explain this...


#2 - I am not usually a betting man but for all those still delusional I'll give you 10:1 odds that Paul doesn't get the nomination.
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Here's over 100 national polls for you.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...192.html#polls

The average of the polls conducted in the past week is 5% for Paul.
I was gonna say 4% as to these results:
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

But hey I don't want the Ron Paul drones to go nuts on me so vote Ron Paul 2008 he has almost as good a chance as Ross Perot, so looking forward to it.
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What's the logic? Take a Southerner as a VP to help fight for the South?
No its more take a more conservative person onto the ticket. McCain is a bit wishy washy on some subjects republicans hold dear.
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You're another media drone. lol It's getting better for Ron Paul all the time!

The path to the convention is twisty. For instance Iowa, no delegates were awarded at the caucus. That's because voters didn't directly choose national convention delegates; they selected the county and state delegates who will make that decision. And if another candidate like Huckabee is no longer in the race at the time of the state convention in June, his delegates are free to support whomever they want.

How about the poll vote in Nevada? What the media didn't tell you was that Nevada chooses more delegates to the national convention than South Carolina. And guess who did well there in Nevada? It was a laugh when they said Nevada didn't matter.

Yeah ok, righttttt... Ron Paul doesn't have a shot. lolololol
LOL ok so this twisty path does it include a secret tactic of getting last or near last all the time slowly but surely lulling his competition into not caring then finally killing all the other candidates to get the nomination?
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#1 - "I think your #s are way off. Ive seen hundreads of people on the streets holding Ron Paul sign in Tampa Bay area alone and absolutly not one other candidates."

I shouldn't have to explain this...


#2 - I am not usually a betting man but for all those still delusional I'll give you 10:1 odds that Paul doesn't get the nomination.
Enlighten me were my numbers are off? I like yourself seen 100's as well on street corners with the Ron Paul signs. Just recently the Romeny supporters are starting to show up.


I am a betting man but i would not put my money on money Paul being nominated cause i know that will not happen. But i will bet you McCain will not win the election
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Enlighten me were my numbers are off? I like yourself seen 100's as well on street corners with the Ron Paul signs. Just recently the Romeny supporters are starting to show up.


I am a betting man but i would not put my money on money Paul being nominated cause i know that will not happen. But i will bet you McCain will not win the election
Umm... 100's of crazies on the street corner in one city = all national polls are wrong about Paul. Good logic and use of statistics.
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Umm... 100's of crazies on the street corner in one city = all national polls are wrong about Paul. Good logic and use of statistics.
lol so cause they are out supporting there candidate they like they all gotta be crazy? Did you even read anything i even posted? I never once said anything remotely about Paul winning. I posted why he would not win lol
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