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Old 02-07-2008, 10:26 PM   #1
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When is a sponsor going to do a 100PPS?

For the ENTIRE MONTH

31 FULL Days of 100 PPS!

That would be badass and man would they get a shit load of traffic. For the ENTIRE MONTH, not these little promos some sponsors do.

The one day a week high PPS doesn't get anyone excited anymore.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:11 AM   #2
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They are in this biz to make money, not to spend their money from home ...
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:49 AM   #3
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:53 AM   #4
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We've had a $100PPTPTTTS ($100 Pay Per 3.333 Sales) dealio going on for quite some time now!

Jump on, yo!!
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:56 AM   #5
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No one would do that. Think about it.... a big sponsor could possibly afford to do it would already be doing 2000 sales per day or so, so thats 60,000 in that month not to count the extra sales they'd get for the big bucks.

60,000 x 100 = $6,000,000

I think you might see someone be bold enough to do it for a week, but not anymore it simply would cost them too much.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:57 AM   #6
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We've had a $100PPTPTTTS ($100 Pay Per 3.333 Sales) dealio going on for quite some time now!

Jump on, yo!!

lol what amarketer
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:06 AM   #7
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Hmm, somehow I never cared too much about any special payouts. I take a closer look at all my sponsors once every few months, and those that made me the most money in the past get the most traffic, and those who didn't convert get nothing anymore.

I somehow don't have time to switch links forward and backward with every new promo that's announced
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:38 AM   #8
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would a good idea for shaving everyone for a whole month....lol
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:07 AM   #9
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No one would do that. Think about it.... a big sponsor could possibly afford to do it would already be doing 2000 sales per day or so, so thats 60,000 in that month not to count the extra sales they'd get for the big bucks.

60,000 x 100 = $6,000,000

I think you might see someone be bold enough to do it for a week, but not anymore it simply would cost them too much.

but think about all the rebills they might get
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:14 AM   #10
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I always wonder HOW they avoid someone sending like 50 of his friends to make $1 trials, cash it and cancel it...
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:34 AM   #11
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We had a $135 pps for a whole month.. And we still have the ability to reach $250 pps
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:40 AM   #12
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I can do $100 PPS for http://www.getrichinporn.com/maintour.php/497/56/A

who wants it? ICQ me 161759738
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:48 AM   #13
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I always wonder HOW they avoid someone sending like 50 of his friends to make $1 trials, cash it and cancel it...
Fraud is not that difficult to catch, and the solution is simple: sponsors don't pay out on fraud. It makes it even easier since the criminals always make the most noise when you first tell them "oh ya, you know that $10,000 you thought you made by scamming us? You aren't getting 1 cent of it"

They bitch and moan and threaten, and then they disappear. Personally I think it's hilarious when some dude thinks he can "fly under the radar" and that he's the first person to ever think of scamming a sponsor
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:58 AM   #14
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but think about all the rebills they might get
Each member would have to rebill for at least 4 months in order to make the money back that they paid out.

Most people sell passes at $25 to $40 tops. So even on a $30 a month pass that would take 4 months to make $120.

Maybe less with upsells to cams etc, but it wouldn't work out I don't think. In my opinion the longest $100 PPS you will see is one week at the most!
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:03 AM   #15
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I remember incredibledollars having a 1 week promo with 100$ PPS.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:12 AM   #16
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didn't pussycash have a $125 PPS for a few months ?
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:12 AM   #17
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It can be done and the sponsors would have a huge increase of traffic before the promo period and at the end. Those galleries would still be out there trickling that traffic to the sponsors. Hell, you might get some new affiliates as well who would continue to do business beyond the promotion period.
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didn't pussycash have a $125 PPS for a few months ?
I think that's like after you've reached X amount of sales based on prior sales you had that month.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:34 AM   #19
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It can be done and the sponsors would have a huge increase of traffic before the promo period and at the end. Those galleries would still be out there trickling that traffic to the sponsors. Hell, you might get some new affiliates as well who would continue to do business beyond the promotion period.
If the payout was on trials - there are not many paysite sponsors that have a per-trial net-net VPS of over $100. There would be absolutely zero profit from all of those joins for the period in question. So, if it were even 1000 joins per day for 30 days, that's $3,000,000 in payout (HUGE cashflow crunch) - with a net-net loss of at least $300,000 - $1,000,000 (depending on VPS) which would be realized over say a 12 month period.

So for any sponsor to do this they would need several million dollars of cash just sitting there, on top of normal operating expenses. In addition, assuming a per-trial VPS of, say, $70 and a normal payout of $30, with a net-net profit of $20 per join (payout + variable costs + fixed costs), the program would have to pick up an ADDITIONAL 45,000 joins on top of their normal business before breaking a profit.

So, give a 12 month time horizon a program would have to add, on average, 134 NEW joins per day over an 11 month period to BREAK EVEN on the $900,000 net loss of the promo (using $100PPS / $70 VPS / $20 net profit per join).

This does not even factor in the time-value of money on $3 million dollars, even at say 3% interest over 12 months that return is (compounded monthly) about $91,000. That's not even including the opportunity cost of $3 million dollars (which could be invested in, say, purchasing one or several other profitable businesses).

I run all the promos here and I do this math all the time. A $100 PPS promo would be the ideal way for me to put us out of business in 30 days
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:36 AM   #20
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It was done years ago.
It was called Club 100.

Co owned by noneother than Sweet T and Mike AI.

Most of yall would bitch about it now though and cry about the upsales even though you were getting 100% of the membership money.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #21
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If the payout was on trials - there are not many paysite sponsors that have a per-trial net-net VPS of over $100. There would be absolutely zero profit from all of those joins for the period in question. So, if it were even 1000 joins per day for 30 days, that's $3,000,000 in payout (HUGE cashflow crunch) - with a net-net loss of at least $300,000 - $1,000,000 (depending on VPS) which would be realized over say a 12 month period.

So for any sponsor to do this they would need several million dollars of cash just sitting there, on top of normal operating expenses. In addition, assuming a per-trial VPS of, say, $70 and a normal payout of $30, with a net-net profit of $20 per join (payout + variable costs + fixed costs), the program would have to pick up an ADDITIONAL 45,000 joins on top of their normal business before breaking a profit.

So, give a 12 month time horizon a program would have to add, on average, 134 NEW joins per day over an 11 month period to BREAK EVEN on the $900,000 net loss of the promo (using $100PPS / $70 VPS / $20 net profit per join).

This does not even factor in the time-value of money on $3 million dollars, even at say 3% interest over 12 months that return is (compounded monthly) about $91,000. That's not even including the opportunity cost of $3 million dollars (which could be invested in, say, purchasing one or several other profitable businesses).

I run all the promos here and I do this math all the time. A $100 PPS promo would be the ideal way for me to put us out of business in 30 days
I would suggest doing it in February. Only 28 days
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:43 AM   #22
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But thats right yall want a guranteed something up front istead of 100% of the membership revenue.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:48 AM   #23
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I would suggest doing it in February. Only 28 days
lol .. or make a new month "Februmarch" and run it for the whole month of Februmarch.. every 4 years.. on February 29th
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:50 AM   #24
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No one would do it. The 1 day is so that everyone jumps on and the program gets sales a few days before and after the promo on top of promo day sales. It helps even things out.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:47 PM   #25
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We've been doing it several time at TopBucks
Stay tuned for our announcements!
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this sounds interesting to thebossxxx hmmmmmmm
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