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BusterBunny · 02-19-2008, 11:24 PM

one hundo

MasterKeyword · 02-19-2008, 11:24 PM

cien !!!

LeRoy · 02-20-2008, 12:48 AM

What is going one here? Lets just get back to selling porn. Fuck all the bullshit.

Johny Traffic · 02-20-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

So you are saying that a tube site with hour long videos is going to be just as popular as one with 2 min videos?

Or are you saying that sponsors giving away full length video clips is not going to hurt sales to their sites but instead help them get more sales ? (picture and video membership sites not cam,dating, etc..)

I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.

No, what I am saying is unless you have invented a time machine and can go back and uninvent you tubes then you have to either learn to adapt and try and work with it or find a different job.

Those who think that you cant sell porn, because someone is giving a movie away for free has a very steep learning curve and need to learn why people pay for porn. Free porn has always been around. Far more was passed around free way before the internet was invented.

Those who think they are losing sales because of tube sites and want it all to go back to how it was before tube sites were invented, will be of little relevance soon, because they wont be here.

Free sites have now evolved. They are not going anywhere, no chest banging or shouting on GFY is going to turn the clocks back.

Pay sites have to sell to the customer by offing the customer what he wants. Offering something more, better. Not by trying to force the customer into signing up because they cant find free porn somewhere else.

Unfortunatly most webmasters cant understand this simple point and think some magic is going to happen and we will all go back to better days before tube sites. But like I said, no matter as those webmasters wont be here much longer

Johny Traffic · 02-20-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

The only possible way this can work for everyone is if all tube sites as a group institute a 1-2 minute long maximum rule for the vids. Then we could all work with them as Paul is doing. But for now they are not and Paul is being a complete dick....

LOL

Maybe someone will come up with the great idea of Tube2 sites like the TGP2 sites.

Not going to happen. Forget it. Tube sites are not going anywhere. Learn to live with it, offer something better or find a new job

Turboface · 02-20-2008, 01:11 AM

What is really going on here?

spooky181 · 02-20-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

LOL

Maybe someone will come up with the great idea of Tube2 sites like the TGP2 sites.

Not going to happen. Forget it. Tube sites are not going anywhere. Learn to live with it, offer something better or find a new job

Ooooh I see, now I get it....I have to offer 5 hour free videos. Thanks for the lesson, off to work I go...

Sausage · 02-20-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Ooooh I see, now I get it....I have to offer 5 hour free videos. Thanks for the lesson, off to work I go...

Actually TGP2 worked on the idea of giving less to the surfer rather than more.... so one would assume given his argument of Tube2 that it would give less too

Not that either method did or would work because water doesn't flow up hill.

Johny Traffic · 02-20-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Ooooh I see, now I get it....I have to offer 5 hour free videos. Thanks for the lesson, off to work I go...

Well if you think that to compete with a tube site you need to offer 5 hour free videos then its best you start looking for a new job now. I cant keep repeating this if you wont listen.

Tube sites are not going anywhere

Johny Traffic · 02-20-2008, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Actually TGP2 worked on the idea of giving less to the surfer rather than more.... so one would assume given his argument of Tube2 that it would give less too

Not that either method did or would work because water doesn't flow up hill.

Exactly. It wouldnt work and isnt going to happen anyway.

Tube sites are going to get bigger offer better vids, longer vids and more vids and there is going to be more and more tube sites. All competing to give the best vids available.

Those who think the way to deal with this FACT is to shout on GFY about getting them shut down are of little consiquence, as they wont be here in a year anyway.

Tube sites are going no where. Learn to live with it or learn to flip burgers

LadyMischief · 02-20-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Exactly. It wouldnt work and isnt going to happen anyway.

Tube sites are going to get bigger offer better vids, longer vids and more vids and there is going to be more and more tube sites. All competing to give the best vids available.

Those who think the way to deal with this FACT is to shout on GFY about getting them shut down are of little consiquence, as they wont be here in a year anyway.

Tube sites are going no where. Learn to live with it or learn to flip burgers

Man, you hit the nail on the head. Nice to see someone else with sense around here, I was kind of thinking all sense went out the window.

campimp · 02-20-2008, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This is business and our first loyalty is to our family, then employees, then affiliates. People in the business are a bit further down the list and posters on GFY come very low.

tell us how you really feel

naughtyconnect · 02-20-2008, 08:09 AM

New Tube Sites are like the war on drugs, you cant stop it, theres going to be huge demand for free movie porn until the end of time. Either figure out a way to profit from it or get in a business that wont be cannibalized by tube sites. You cant tell me you didnt see it coming, PaulM is just getting with the times

will76 · 02-20-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

No, what I am saying is unless you have invented a time machine and can go back and uninvent you tubes then you have to either learn to adapt and try and work with it or find a different job.

Those who think that you cant sell porn, because someone is giving a movie away for free has a very steep learning curve and need to learn why people pay for porn. Free porn has always been around. Far more was passed around free way before the internet was invented.

Those who think they are losing sales because of tube sites and want it all to go back to how it was before tube sites were invented, will be of little relevance soon, because they wont be here.

Free sites have now evolved. They are not going anywhere, no chest banging or shouting on GFY is going to turn the clocks back.

Pay sites have to sell to the customer by offing the customer what he wants. Offering something more, better. Not by trying to force the customer into signing up because they cant find free porn somewhere else.

Unfortunatly most webmasters cant understand this simple point and think some magic is going to happen and we will all go back to better days before tube sites. But like I said, no matter as those webmasters wont be here much longer

So, you agree with this then ? http://www.viraldiscussion.com/post/...n-adapt-or-die

Johny Traffic · 02-20-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Man, you hit the nail on the head. Nice to see someone else with sense around here, I was kind of thinking all sense went out the window.

People with sense round here?

Its become like watching monkeys at the zoo here. Amusing once a year for about 1/2 an hour. Those with sense like to watch the monkeys beating their chests and swinging from one dum ass idea to the next

tony286 · 02-20-2008, 10:47 AM

You all keep forgetting the industry all goes tube crazy full scenes given away. Governments around the world are going to start filtering out porn. Now I know the adapt or die crowd and the short term thinkers have a hard time with this.
We know for the most part politicians are not the most net savy bunch. Bt's,newsgroups even tgps its foreign but a tube site just click and there is a full length anal scene.
All you forward thinkers have to start thinking outside your own little industry . Porn has always been sold behind counters, in shops with darkened windows. Since its not open access its been tolerated.
Because things for the first time have gotten slow,people are scared and are going to embrace the giving the house away mentality. We are on the road to being banned off the web. Mark my words and then people will cry its not fair ,they are picking on us.If we dont police ourselves others will do it for us.

Hell House Vic · 02-20-2008, 10:51 AM

Paul,

The logic leading up to your conclusions is OK - that it comes down to money being the first priority. But in the end your conclusion that you should partake in the adult tube phenomenon is most probably incorrect. We tried a bit of tube traffic maybe 6-9 months ago... it was LOUSY. There are definitely MUCH better ways to get traffic even in the short term - not to mention that over the long term tube sites may make it a LOT more difficult to SELL any adult video product on the web.

You should reconsider.

L-Pink · 02-20-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

You all keep forgetting the industry all goes tube crazy full scenes given away. Governments around the world are going to start filtering out porn. Now I know the adapt or die crowd and the short term thinkers have a hard time with this.
We know for the most part politicians are not the most net savy bunch. Bt's,newsgroups even tgps its foreign but a tube site just click and there is a full length anal scene.
All you forward thinkers have to start thinking outside your own little industry . Porn has always been sold behind counters, in shops with darkened windows. Since its not open access its been tolerated.
Because things for the first time have gotten slow,people are scared and are going to embrace the giving the house away mentality. We are on the road to being banned off the web. Mark my words and then people will cry its not fair ,they are picking on us.If we dont police ourselves others will do it for us.

spacedog · 02-21-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

http://www.redtube.com/8259

Guess he thinks his name is worth more than an entire industry or wants it to be at the industries expense.

Looks like redtube is run by an idiot, LOL..
His affiliate link is missing his ccbill id

will76 · 02-21-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Man, you hit the nail on the head. Nice to see someone else with sense around here, I was kind of thinking all sense went out the window.

I wonder if you would agree with my thoughts on this matter (link in sig).

sacX · 02-21-2008, 02:27 AM

It's Paul's content he can do whatever the fuck he likes with it.

spooky181 · 02-21-2008, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sacX

It's Paul's content he can do whatever the fuck he likes with it.

He has a program that has affilliates, so doing whatever the fuck he likes comes at the cost of his affiliates, and therefore comes at the cost of himself...

fuckingfuck · 02-21-2008, 04:36 AM

Hahaha so the poor guy is on the verge of going skint? NICE ONE.

Nydahl · 02-21-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

He has a program that has affilliates, so doing whatever the fuck he likes comes at the cost of his affiliates, and therefore comes at the cost of himself...

its thier free choise to be or not to be an affiliate of Paul's prog - they can go away anytime I guess

BVF · 02-21-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

its thier free choise to be or not to be an affiliate of Paul's prog - they can go away anytime I guess

This is true....He has the right to do whatever the fuck he wants...I clowned him about the young wife and all but hell, he has a family to feed...

At least Paul didn't put a BS spin on it like Twistys did...Paul acted like a man and basically said , "I'm going to do this and if you don't like it, fuck off"...

He specializes in vanilla porn with run of the mill eastern European teen girl stock...That's the WORST thing to be selling right now...Maybe because I'm not in the teen niche but I can't recognize paul's content from any other teen content out there.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You all keep forgetting the industry all goes tube crazy full scenes given away. Governments around the world are going to start filtering out porn. Now I know the adapt or die crowd and the short term thinkers have a hard time with this. We know for the most part politicians are not the most net savy bunch. Bt's,newsgroups even tgps its foreign but a tube site just click and there is a full length anal scene. All you forward thinkers have to start thinking outside your own little industry . Porn has always been sold behind counters, in shops with darkened windows. Since its not open access its been tolerated. Because things for the first time have gotten slow,people are scared and are going to embrace the giving the house away mentality. We are on the road to being banned off the web. Mark my words and then people will cry its not fair ,they are picking on us.If we dont police ourselves others will do it for us.

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