BVF

I'm predicting an Obama victory in Texas....Ohio is a toss up.

DEAL WITH IT!!

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tony286

it should be interesting.

GatorB

Yeah so far Obama got 31 delegates and Hillary 22. Wow 9 whole delegate difference so far.

jryan89

they're both libs, so i don't care

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kane

Her people have said that if she doesn't win Texas and Ohio she will drop out because it will be hard for the super delegates to support her if she lost most of the states

MandyBlake

i wonder if she'll concede the nomination or if she'll go all the way to the convention...

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sortie

I think it's the other way round that she will be closest to winning Texas.
I think she will get slaughtered in Ohio.

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sortie

She should drop out to redeem herself because she messed up any chance
of Obama picking her as a runing mate.

She got too personal.

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BVF

Wow...this dumb redneck sucks at math.

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i don't think he would pick her anyway.

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GatorB

Um 31-22 is 9. Which is what it was at the time I checked CNN. I didnt know renecks could be born and raised near Chicago.


for an update it''s now 38 for Obama and 27 for Hillary that a whopping 11 delegate lead.

Try learning about things.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/pri...ults/state/#WI

Dirty F

Good for Obama. Just kinda sad to see the next president is mainly voted on because of his skin colour.

GatorB

Hillary never would have "lowered" herself to accept the VP spot anyways.

Corona

If you think Obama is getting more votes than Hillary because he is black, then you don't know much about the US.

If Obama was all white he would have kicked her ass long ago.

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mikesouth

got news for yall it aint over...what about those delegates in FL that Hillalry won? they aint counting those because supposedly they dont count...but it aint over yet....dont kid yourself. Although I'd prefer Obama to Hillary

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Drake

He isn't President yet.

Nobody really knows what will happen during the general election.

Drake

It's still too early to conclude who will definitely get the nomination. It's been a very close race throughout.

Obama and Clinton are relatively similar on their policy positions. Obama has superior oratory skills which wins people over. He just has more charisma and that's important in getting support.

spanky part 2

A 72 year old who wants to continue along the Bush path.

A 46 year old brilliant man who is all about change.

Yeah, I have no idea what will happen.

Zorgman

Question. If by some chance Hillary wins. What does that make Bill? The First Man? ( rather then The First Lady)

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Drake

Hey, the distinction is clear to me too, but I really don't know how others will vote. People voted for Bush a second time well after he set the country on the Bush Path.

Drake

Remember, this is a country where for a long time after 9/11 anybody who criticized the Iraq War was ostracized and seen as unpatriotic. Celebs were booed, records pulled, and vitriol spewed. Today, it's hip to jump on the 'Iraq war was a bad idea' train. People have all but forgotten how the attitude was a complete 180 a couple years ago.

spanky part 2

It will take about 5 mins in the first debate. Obama will eat him for lunch. Don't get me wrong, McCain is a good man, but he is a grandpa, and set in his ways. No fucking way he is our next pres. The conservatives are throwing him to the wolves in hopes that the dems fuck things up and they can make a big comeback in 4 years.

the neocons don't give up that easy.

D

There's a lot more to it than that.

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It'd be the "First Gentleman"

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Zorgman

He's no Gentleman! :D
Give the man a cigar

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Hillary would make a far better president than the inexperienced Obama ... Change my ass, once he is in the lions cage in Washington DC, he will be like any other president ...

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kane

I saw it on CNN and can't find the news story. It wasn't a done deal, but the reporter said that if she doesn't win those states should would give strong thought to dropping out. She will have trouble getting super delegates to support her if she doesn't win states. It would look really bad and piss off a lot of people if she lost 2/3rds of the states and still got the nomination.

spunkmaster

The press knows this is 100% over and they'll push it to the end for ratings.

The hildabeast has to get 60% in Texas, Ohio and PA to just catch up to Obama
and she has zero chance to do this !

I personally don't like McCain and I think if Obama won he would have zero chance to change anything. It takes 60 senators and about 260 congress members to give the President what he wants and the votes aren't there for 99.99% of his agenda.

If you remember Clinton's first two years as President it was a complete disaster. It was a 100% total failure and he had both the house and senate
controlled by the Dems with large margins.

In fact, it was such a failure it gave control to the GOP and then he started getting things done only when the GOP let him. Everything Clinton signed after 1994 was first approved by Newt Gingrich and Clinton took the credit.

Obama will be a disaster as well but fuck he isn't Bush so all will be good with the world !

Nothing will really change but it will still be good !

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I think the same can be said for anyone that wins. If it is Obama or Clinton the republicans will be pissed because they have lost everything and they will be standing in the way of everything they can. If it is McCain the dems are going to see him as Bush part 2 and they will not be too willing to work with him so I think it doesn't matter who wins they will have a big uphill battle.

spunkmaster

I think so !

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If Hillary were to win the nomination Republicans would certainly have had alot to worry about.

Now the Democrats will have an inexperienced noob.

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I actually disagree. I think the republicans want Hillary.

the reason I say this is because McCain has many problems as a candidate, the main one is that the far right christian conservatives don't like him. They have already said they won't support him and without them getting elected will be very difficult. The republicans sold their souls to the christian right about 20 years ago and are now finding out how it feels when they abandon you. look at the 2006 congressional elections. The christian right turned their backs on the party and they lost the house an senate. That said they hate hillary even more then McCain so they might support McCain just as a way of combating hillary. They don't really have anything against obama though so there is a good chance they will not support McCain against him.

obama has also energized the party. Look at today's primaries. Over 1.1 million democrats turned out to vote in the primary, only around 350K republicans did. That is a huge disparity. Now many of the republicans may have stayed home because they see McCain as having had already won the nomination so no need voting, but it is still a telling number. Obama is a rock star where 25,000 people show up to see him everywhere he goes. If he re-energizes the young people and the base of the democratic party (which is appears he has done) and can actually get them to the polls he will be very hard to beat.

campimp

I wish obama could take bill as his running mate

having bill as the first lady is the only reason to vote for hillary

DaddyHalbucks

I think you are right. Ohio will probably go Hillary, but you never know..

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tranza

It's over for Hillary.

She's just too soft.

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BVF

How do you remember to BREATHE every day? You're so dumb that you wouldn't even remember to do it if it wasn't an involuntary action...

A "whopping" 11 delegate lead is added to an even MORE "whopping" 91 delegate lead....

How about you try looking past the dirty window in your trailer?

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Good for you that you're Dutch and therefore don't have to worry about it.

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What is the 'experience' needed that everybody keeps talking about? Balancing budgets, passing legislation? These things have been done ineffectually under people with supposedly more experience. Obama has a great deal of real life experience coming from a broken home in poverty to a Harvard grad and beyond. If he treats national spending like responsible household spending (and I haven't heard that he's in the red or losing his house) he could just as easily manage spending like Clinton or McCain. He's a Senator and has partaken in all the customary "selfless" good deeds with regard to volunteer community projects and has been involved in legislation.

I don't think we'll see much change even if he gets into office. Every President runs into the same problems - parties not coming together and rejecting all proposals from the other side, the lobbies and special interests with all the money and power to pull the plug or block legislation, politicians that have to satisfy their constituencies to remain in power will also strongarm the President to keep the status quo on how things are run. The only chance a President has is to try to make the process as transparent as possible. Let the nation know what legislation you're trying to pass and why, and broadcast who it is that is rejecting it and why.

Tom_PM

This is my only issue with Obama. All I know shows a savvy, normal everyday politician who is running a very good campaign.

All day the other day the talk was about the borrowed speech lines. Now listen, I dont have a problem with it. He's used them before and this time he just forgot to credit the governor who said them. Yes politicians borrow lines all the time. So why didnt anyone even point out that it demonstrates normal everyday politics, which he is supposedly running against? Nobody on any tv show full of pundits for and against him even caught that little tidbit. He's more teflon than ole Bill ever was, lol.

Also this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0

I really hope the debate tomorrow and next week sheds some light on what he plans to do. Politics as usual so far isn't demonstrative of change.. we need more information from him and I hope we get it.

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Rochard

All of the canidates are "about change". That's a line of bullshit already. This is more of the same; It's going to be business as usual in Washington DC.

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Drake

I look at it in the way the internet sprouted. It made many youngsters into millionaires. Many of the youngsters who made fortunes would never have had a chance in the Old System where getting a good job or running a top company relied on going to an elite university, knowing people with influence, etc. The Marc De's (former owner of ARS) of the internet had talent that many old timers would have dismissed and never mined had the internet not existed. But the internet being what it is didn't care about age or past experience that showed potential. It only cared about who had opportunity to get online and use their own skills to make something. So we can go with the Old Guard (more Clintonism or neo-con lipservice from McCain - both Washingon insiders) or with somebody energized with a slightly different approach, who arguably may be just as bad as his predecessor but not much worse (if it's possible).

Drake

I think Obama's platform is very similar to Clinton's. His positions are outlined on his site. It seems to me he has played it smart on the campaign trail. Why delve deeply into the issues when rhetoric and charm will get more support. Last night's speech was more about specifics than usual for him. He's for UHC, ending the war in Iraq but maintaining it in Afghan, amnesty for immigrants, and so forth. Can he do it? Would it make the country better or worse? Who knows, but it'll mostly be more of the same. A President can't radically shake up Washingon like Obama hopes.

Violetta

still MANY months to the election

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WarChild

Obama is intelligent, well spoken and charismatic, but make no mistake about it he's the same as every other stuffed shirt in Washington.

I find it particularily funny when people make ridiculous posts about Obama being for change. It's the best when they say something like "Obama is all abotu change and you stupid sheep can't see it.".

Do you know how the whole change thing came to be? It started appearing behind, under, around Obama during speaches. Just the single word "Change". Quickly it was picked up and now all the Obama supporters are screaming about change! Only they were force fed that by the people that really run the show and will be pulling the strings of the next President, whoever that might be.

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Last week Chris asked the governor of Wisconsin the very same question and he also had nothing to say and was dumbfounded. That tells you everything you need to know about how the media has treated/favored Obama and treated him with white gloves. If he and his campaign were getting grilled on his records and experiences or lack thereof, then there is no way any of his surrogates would be caught with their pants down like they have been by Chris Matthews on two occasions since Friday.

As for his claim to be about change, this newsweek article says a lot about his actual lack of anything to do with change.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/113672

If Hillary is smart she at least stays till the convention as that is a lot of time for the Republicans to dig at him and possibly exposes weaknesses and it also will allow the media time to decide if they want to do their jobs and be partisan or keep sucking his cock and glossing over all his shortcomings and highlighting his strengths.

spunkmaster

There's no way Clinton can win without fraud. She would need 62% of the votes in all the remaining states.

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She is goingt o cry to win again