Eric: Now that Shap himself has admitted that GayTube.com had stolen content on it... - GoFuckYourself.com

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:17 PM

can i get unbanned?

Is it proof enough?

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Originally Posted by Shap

The site does not have any stolen content on it now. It is 100% clean and will remain that way. Was it 100% clean a week ago? Regretfully, no it wasn't. I did not authorize it but ultimately I take full responsibility for it.

gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=810316

Shap · 02-24-2008, 07:18 PM

Damn, do you need gfy money that bad?

Doctor Dre · 02-24-2008, 07:20 PM

You bring nothing to the board anyways... stay banned

Shap · 02-24-2008, 07:20 PM

You probably should not have claimed my sites were illegal. They were not illegal and never have been.

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Damn, do you need gfy money that bad?

Do you??

unleashxxx · 02-24-2008, 07:21 PM

what if i claimed you are a hypocrite piece of shit? ban me i could give a fuck less.

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

You bring nothing to the board anyways... stay banned

Do you??

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

You probably should not have claimed my sites were illegal.

But they were at the time the claim was maid.

Unlicenced content = illegal site.

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:26 PM

I wish some of these twits would read up on user submitted content and the guidelines for having a site like that. In order to bypass 2257 you cannot actively remove content without following some guidelines. Signs of obvious cp, beast vids etc can be removed. Once you begin monitoring and removing content sans dmca request you lose the 2257 loophole. Whatever though not worth even arguing about.

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Redux

But they were at the time the claim was maid.

Unlicenced content = illegal site.

No actually it doesnt.

L-Pink · 02-24-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I wish some of these twits would read up on user submitted content and the guidelines for having a site like that. In order to bypass 2257 you cannot actively remove content without following some guidelines. Signs of obvious cp, beast vids etc can be removed. Once you begin monitoring and removing content sans dmca request you lose the 2257 loophole. Whatever though not worth even arguing about.

You are so much smarter than you look

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

You are so much smarter than you look

Touche!!

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

You are so much smarter than you look

Damn forgot..

TOUCHE!!

lazycash · 02-24-2008, 07:32 PM

Oh no, if Jet isn't unbanned how is he going to collect on all his contest winnings that are due him because the contest rules clearly state that you must have an active gfy account. I say we just take all his contest winnings that are due him and buy his neighbors some xmas presents.

Tempest · 02-24-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

No actually it doesnt.

<edit> nevermind.. read your statement about 2257 etc. But given nothing in that law has been tested in court, your fantasy that it's not illegal is just that.. a fantasy..

Chio · 02-24-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Touche!!

BAKO · 02-24-2008, 07:34 PM

hahaahahahaahaha

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

No actually it doesnt.

That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?

papill0n · 02-24-2008, 07:38 PM

this aint going to go away

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

<edit> nevermind.. read your statement about 2257 etc. But given nothing in that law has been tested in court, your fantasy that it's not illegal is just that.. a fantasy..

Does everyone really not understand how "user submitted" content works? As was said before. Currently this is a huge gray area. Until legislation is passed there was nothing illegal. Infringement? Yes, but technically a dmca is required for the site to remove the content. If the site starts policing the content and removes anything other than obviously "illegal" cp, beasty stuff, etc, at that point the 2257 loophole falls apart, and they would be open to 2257 inspection if they are in the states. Do I think its a good thing? Yes and no. The laws need to be streamlined more in order to fix things.

I just get tired of people trying to make a name by attacking whoever they can without having any idea of the facts and circumstances. Ban hammer needs to be thrown more often.

pocketkangaroo · 02-24-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Redux

That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?

Let me introduce you to a site you may have heard of:

https://youtube.com

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:43 PM

You are talking strictly laws here.

I didn't mean it that way.

What i meant was that the site was illegal in a broad term - considered by adult business community - that is, having unlicensed content on it and giving it away for free.

Using your logic, torrent sites and rapidshare type site are perfectly okay, which is NOT the case.

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Let me introduce you to a site you may have heard of:

youtube.com

And?

Just because it is owned by someone with deep pockets does not make it legal.

But just like in case with Shap, that fact has great influence on some peoples oppinion and actions.

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Redux

You are talking strictly laws here.

I didn't mean it that way.

What i meant was that the site was illegal in a broad term - considered by adult business community - that is, having unlicensed content on it and giving it away for free.

Using your logic, torrent sites and rapidshare type site are perfectly okay, which is NOT the case.

If you are going to run a "user submitted" video site and be able to do it there is only 2 ways.

1. somehow obtain 2257 docs from each user of the site. Run it like a cam site say like Ifriends etc. People are not getting paid, so very unlikely you can make this happen.

2. you allow user submitted content. You cannot police the content and pick and choose with what is uploaded. You remove content only when a copyright holder submits a dmca request. You only remove obvious illegal material such as Cp, and beasty, rape scenes, etc.

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You only remove obvious illegal material such as Cp, and beasty, rape scenes, etc.

This arguement is flawed on so many levels, I don't even want to go in there.

How about an hour long user submitted video? Is it "obvious" enough?

seeric · 02-24-2008, 07:57 PM

i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

A1R3K
Posts: 33,310

You are the one to talk!

Go post more "hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" or "I'm platipus" threads.

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Redux

This arguement is flawed on so many levels, I don't even want to go in there.

How about an hour long user submitted video? Is it "obvious" enough?

Well the way for the site to get around that is to limit the length of videos, and limit file sizes. Say 10 minute videos be the limit and say 175mb files.

Just curious what dog do you have in the fight? Are tube sites somehow going to decrease your contest earnings? Or have tube sites slowed down the number of packages left outside doorways in your building that you can "borrow"

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Well the way for the site to get around that is to limit the length of videos, and limit file sizes. Say 10 minute videos be the limit and say 175mb files.

Who's to decide what lenght or size the video should be?

Bottom line is: sites offering unlicenced content are unacceptible no matter how you spin it.

Shap · 02-24-2008, 08:06 PM

jet email me at tw-shap at twistys dot com.

woj · 02-24-2008, 08:10 PM

You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man...

Jet Redux · 02-24-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man...

Respected? LOL. Not lately.

As for drama, check the GFY rules page. It clearly states that drama is very welcome. And no rules were broken - more evidence had been presented than it was enough.

Oh, and Shap actually posted that he loved the attention that Twistys was getting from all the drama. So why did he run crying to the mods to ban me and lock the thread?

dropped9 · 02-24-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i soooooooooooooooooo hope eric leaves your ass banned.

worthless contest sig whores should be not seen or heard.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

AMEN!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JakeR · 02-24-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man...

Fap · 02-24-2008, 08:23 PM

I smell DRAMMAAAAAA

JFK · 02-24-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by banthis

I smell DRAMMAAAAAA

It's been a good week for it

Tempest · 02-24-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Does everyone really not understand how "user submitted" content works?

There's a huge difference between user "submitted" and user "created"... You simply cannot legally use anything that's been copyrighted without the rights to use it... You can talk about "gray areas" and split hairs, but at the end of the day everyone knows what's right and wrong.

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

There's a huge difference between user "submitted" and user "created"... You simply cannot legally use anything that's been copyrighted without the rights to use it... You can talk about "gray areas" and split hairs, but at the end of the day everyone knows what's right and wrong.

Yes what everyone knows, and what would take a federal bite out of a sites ass are two different things.

pornask · 02-24-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

You tried to create drama about a well known + respected gfyer, it backfired... now quit whining and accept the consequences like a man...

no, he created drama about a scumbag and a content thief

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

no, he created drama about a scumbag and a content thief

You need to be more specific. Not sure who you are talking about. Can you put that all in one complete sentence?

Like

He created drama about (insert name here) a scumbag and a content thief. Just to be clear.

pornask · 02-24-2008, 10:26 PM

there's no other place on the net that can match GFY in number of ass kissers...

GAMEFINEST · 02-24-2008, 10:29 PM

If shap contacts eric, u will get unbanned

Tempest · 02-24-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yes what everyone knows, and what would take a federal bite out of a sites ass are two different things.

That's the difference between a scumbag and an ethical person.. Those that do what they know to be wrong but they an get away with due to loopholes and gray areas are the scumbags... Everyone knows which side you come down on...

stickyfingerz · 02-24-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

That's the difference between a scumbag and an ethical person.. Those that do what they know to be wrong but they an get away with due to loopholes and gray areas are the scumbags... Everyone knows which side you come down on...

No apparently you do not.

Are youtube scumbags? They follow the rules for user submitted content. They must be scumbags and content thief's huh? Jebus Christ.

baddog · 02-24-2008, 11:18 PM

Jet was banned? I will have to make sure to get Eric a birthday present.

Bama · 02-25-2008, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

There's a huge difference between user "submitted" and user "created"... You simply cannot legally use anything that's been copyrighted without the rights to use it... You can talk about "gray areas" and split hairs, but at the end of the day everyone knows what's right and wrong.

There's a difference between "what's right/what's wrong" and "what's legal /illegal".

50% of the time, the advice is right
50% of the time, the advice is wrong but,
99.9% of the time, the advice isn't legal

Very little is worse in a public forum than an ill-informed town crier.

nitwitlegaladvice.com is available
nitwitlegalgroup.com is available
nitwitsunite.com is available
nitwitgroup.com is available
nitwitforum.com is available

GFY lawyers et al - have at em'!

Dirty F · 02-25-2008, 12:50 AM

Poor Jet, his income is gone overnight. After 6 years online he finally found a way to make 300 bucks a month and evil Eric took it away from him.

boneless · 02-25-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

You probably should not have claimed my sites were illegal. They were not illegal and never have been.

well your site gaytube was doing so a week or so ago, you admitted it in that thread and thread starter quoted it in first post.

btw you took gaytube from your sig, thing got too much heated up to keep it in there?

also why was all of a sudden the whois info changed on the domain :P

D · 02-25-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Redux

A1R3K
Posts: 33,310

You are the one to talk!

Go post more "hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" or "I'm platipus" threads.

He's not a platypus.

He's a duck.

D · 02-25-2008, 02:20 AM

There's a difference.

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	I wish some of these twits would read up on user submitted content and the guidelines for having a site like that. In order to bypass 2257 you cannot actively remove content without following some guidelines. Signs of obvious cp, beast vids etc can be removed. Once you begin monitoring and removing content sans dmca request you lose the 2257 loophole. Whatever though not worth even arguing about.

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lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Oh no, if Jet isn't unbanned how is he going to collect on all his contest winnings that are due him because the contest rules clearly state that you must have an active gfy account. I say we just take all his contest winnings that are due him and buy his neighbors some xmas presents.

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	this aint going to go away

02-24-2008, 07:43 PM	#22
Jet Redux So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 276	You are talking strictly laws here. I didn't mean it that way. What i meant was that the site was illegal in a broad term - considered by adult business community - that is, having unlicensed content on it and giving it away for free. Using your logic, torrent sites and rapidshare type site are perfectly okay, which is NOT the case.

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