Question about the US elections for non US citizen. - GoFuckYourself.com

Jman · 02-26-2008, 11:26 AM

As a non US citizen who would you like to see as the next President of the USA?

polish_aristocrat · 02-26-2008, 11:30 AM

I think most of the non-Americans would like to see Obama win, but I can't show any data on it

ADL Colin · 02-26-2008, 11:31 AM

What are the biggest factors for most of you?

Jman · 02-26-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

What are the biggest factors for most of you?

For me it's War and the US dollar value as my income is in US dollar and as gone down a lot.

I think it's time for a Change and someone like Obama could be the right person to lead the USA towards a positive change.

If I could vote he'd get mine for sure.

Paco, of Large Cash. · 02-26-2008, 11:47 AM

Most of the Canadians that I speak with want Obama to win, but are scared that TheDevil (Hillary) or that nazi (McCain) will win solely because of the oh-so old colour issue.

I don;t give a shit about that buzz word 'change'. I want to see somebody in office other than a fossil and their old ways!

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I think most of the non-Americans would like to see Obama win, but I can't show any data on it

Wrong! A lot of German folks want anybody but Obama. The seem to have a knack for stay true to their old ways.

baddog · 02-26-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

. . . the US dollar value as my income is in US dollar and as gone down a lot.

Sounds like a personal problem. I know mine has gone up significantly.

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I think it's time for a Change and someone like Obama could be the right person to lead the USA towards a positive change.

He isn't, and he already admitted it: https://youtube.com/v/4gexyfVpFMU

Jman · 02-26-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sounds like a personal problem. I know mine has gone up significantly.

He isn't, and he already admitted it: https://youtube.com/v/4gexyfVpFMU

LOL I'm not talking about how much I make IDIOT i'm talking about how much I lose on the exchange.

Where you born this way or you just playing stupid???

Jimmy Rock · 02-26-2008, 12:23 PM

lots changed in 4 years, my vote goes to Obama

D · 02-26-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

He isn't, and he already admitted it: https://youtube.com/v/4gexyfVpFMU

I just hear him admitting that he felt he lacked experience in 2004, and because of that wasn't considering running for president back then.

I don't see where he says he doesn't presently feel he's the right person for the job.

From what I've gathered, I think he's come to believe (in the last 3 years) that the post doesn't have to be as political as it has been in the past.

IMHO, "Experience" isn't so much an issue as the ability to inspire the country right now. I don't see Hill-Dog or McCain bringing much in the way of unifying inspiration with them... just four more years of a divided country.

ADL Colin · 02-26-2008, 12:57 PM

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IMHO, "Experience" isn't so much an issue as the ability to inspire the country right now. I don't see Hill-Dog or McCain bringing much in the way of unifying inspiration with them... just four more years of a divided country.

After Bush, everyone thinks they can run the country.

I don't see that Obama will unite people anymore than the other two. Democrats will love him, Republicans will hate him.

BradM · 02-26-2008, 12:58 PM

As a resident (non citizen) American, Canadian citizen living in the US, I really could give a shit who wins at this point.

All of this years candidates are lack lustre, seem to be the same old same old. I have a feeling McCain will win now that Nader has come in and will split up the Dem vote.

Who would I LIKE to see win? Why not Schwarzenegger? Let's repeal the US born law, and get him in office. It's a joke post these days anyway.

I have a feeling the Dem fuckups in the house will cause them to lose congress + senate next election which means the Repubs will take control. That means that IF a democrat wins president they will have NO way of passing anything they want and will appear to be a lame duck. So a 1 term president it will be.

Janessa · 02-26-2008, 12:59 PM

Not sure, as a non-citizen its hard to say, because you cant vote you don't really think about it or at least I don't, I'm sure my choice would be different if I could vote, because I would probably look at the whole picture and take it more seriously.

baddog · 02-26-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by D

I just hear him admitting that he felt he lacked experience in 2004, and because of that wasn't considering running for president back then.

I don't see where he says he doesn't presently feel he's the right person for the job.

Oh, so a year later he has enough experience?

BradM · 02-26-2008, 01:00 PM

Vote Harper!

ADL Colin · 02-26-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

All of this years candidates are lack lustre, seem to be the same old same old. I have a feeling McCain will win now that Nader has come in and will split up the Dem vote.

.

He got less than 1/2 of 1% last time. Maybe he could throw a state. Dunno.

Bigger questions are bloomberg and paul who could actually throw some states

baddog · 02-26-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

He got less than 1/2 of 1% last time. Maybe he could throw a state. Dunno.

Bigger questions are bloomberg and paul who could actually throw some states

Paul? What state?

J. Falcon · 02-26-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sounds like a personal problem. I know mine has gone up significantly.

Wow and then critize other people for not being sharp. Can you read FUCKING ENGLISH?

OMG Jim · 02-26-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Bigger questions are bloomberg and paul who could actually throw some states

What's the latest on Bloomberg? The last thing that I heard was that he would be making a decision on whether to go ahead full speed by the end of February. Who's got the 411 on this guy?

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ADL Colin · 02-26-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Paul? What state?

Any close state (about 50/50) could be won or lost by a third party candidate taking just 1% more from one candidate that another. Which states will be that close in November? No idea.

A few days ago Paul pretty much sounded like he wouldn't run as an independent though.

Vick! · 02-26-2008, 03:06 PM

Anyone who is not pro-war.

D · 02-26-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Oh, so a year later he has enough experience?

Three years later, man. The video that was played on CNN in your link is nearly 4 years old... and a lot can happen in that many years.

I think that a mark of great leadership potential is not wanting the post or feeling you're ready for the post, but taking the post because you honestly feel you're the best choice for those that you'll lead... and I get the vibe that's where Obama's head is at.

Perhaps "Experience" in D.C. is part of the problem.

Snake Doctor · 02-26-2008, 06:29 PM

Baddog has become quite the racist pig lately. (Maybe he always was and just didn't act like it until recently)

Any thread that has the word Obama in it must set off his board tracker because he always jumps right into them talking about how a black man can't get elected President in 2008.

Hey Lloyd, I know when you were growing up the colored people had to drink from different water fountains, but the world has changed, even though you haven't.

baddog · 02-26-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by D

Three years later, man. The video that was played on CNN in your link is nearly 4 years old... and a lot can happen in that many years.

He did not throw his hat in the ring last week.

baddog · 02-26-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Baddog has become quite the racist pig lately. (Maybe he always was and just didn't act like it until recently)

Any thread that has the word Obama in it must set off his board tracker because he always jumps right into them talking about how a black man can't get elected President in 2008.

Hey Lloyd, I know when you were growing up the colored people had to drink from different water fountains, but the world has changed, even though you haven't.

Fuck you idiot. Has nothing to do with race. I would not vote for him no matter what color he was.

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he is getting any attention is because he is black.

videosc · 02-26-2008, 06:34 PM

I'm surprised anyone overseas cares who would be the prez in America. I'm a U.S. citizen and I hardly lose any sleep over who runs the U.K., France, Italy, etc. I'm not even sure I could name them.

Anyhow, as this news story explains, the winner of the U.S. election has already been determined:

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...dentally_leaks

D · 02-26-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

He did not throw his hat in the ring last week.

You're right. he did so a year ago.

Still... 2 years is plenty of time for peeps around him to go "wait a minute, bro... we want you, and the people need you, and we can do it - let's make it happen."

He might have thought he lacked the experience necessary for the job... for whatever reason, he changed his mind in those 2 years... either he realized he was qualified 2 years later, he realized that the post doesn't require as much as he first thought, or - most likely - some combination of both. It seems perfectly reasonable to me.

directfiesta · 02-26-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by videosc

I'm surprised anyone overseas cares who would be the prez in America. I'm a U.S. citizen and I hardly lose any sleep over who runs the U.K., France, Italy, etc. I'm not even sure I could name them.

Funny how you do care about Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, Iran ... and so on ... and these " folks " have not even invaded a country yet .....

theking · 02-26-2008, 07:12 PM

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Funny how you do care about Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, Iran ... and so on ... and these " folks " have not even invaded a country yet .....

Nope...don't care about them...they are enemies of my country.

pornask · 02-26-2008, 07:16 PM

I have not been following US presidential elections, so I don't know. I would like to get educated if someone could be bothered to provide cliff notes on what are the candidates about.

Is there a strict, uncompromising anti war candidate running?

notoldschool · 02-26-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

LOL I'm not talking about how much I make IDIOT i'm talking about how much I lose on the exchange.

Where you born this way or you just playing stupid???

Dont bother with him. Hes an idiot for sure.

theking · 02-26-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I have not been following US presidential elections, so I don't know. I would like to get educated if someone could be bothered to provide cliff notes on what are the candidates about.

Is there a strict, uncompromising anti war candidate running?

Of course not...no President of the USA can ever be anti war.

theking · 02-27-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Of course not...no President of the USA can ever be anti war.

Did that answer your question?

GatorB · 02-27-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

I have a feeling the Dem fuckups in the house will cause them to lose congress + senate next election which means the Repubs will take control. That means that IF a democrat wins president they will have NO way of passing anything they want and will appear to be a lame duck. So a 1 term president it will be.

You do understand that one party control is how this country got fucked up since Bush has been in office. Besides the President doesn't pass anything CONGRESS does. The President can veto it and even if the repubs take over Congress again they sure as hell won't have the 2/3 vote need to override a veto. So that means both sides will have to COMPROMISE. Kind of like they did they last few years of Clinton's term? Isn't that when we reduced spending and actually had a SURPLUS? Funny how things work themselves out when you have checks and balances.

pornask · 02-27-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Of course not...no President of the USA can ever be anti war.

Does it mean that regardless who wins, the US is gonna continue warring?

theking · 02-27-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pornask

Does it mean that regardless who wins, the US is gonna continue warring?

You got it...sport.

flashfire · 02-27-2008, 01:32 AM

obama for most I think

baddog · 02-27-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

obama for most I think

So, it is your suggestion that if the elections were held today, and all the current candidates were just put on the ballot together, that at least 51% of the votes would go to Obama?

DigitalDruid · 02-27-2008, 01:51 AM

all im gonna say is...... you know the USA is crashing when there is a black guy and a woman running for prez......the terminator in office.... Im joking Im Joking. but still Im sure you guys can see why other countries are cashing in the American chips at this point. You guys set those stereotypes all on your own.....

Snake Doctor · 02-28-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he is getting any attention is because he is black.

You say this with a straight face and then call me an idiot?

The fact that you think the ONLY reason he gets any attention, or votes, is because he's black, is the most ridiculous reverse racism fantasy I've ever seen.

Oh you poor old white man, nobody is voting for the white men, what's the world come to?

Axeman · 02-28-2008, 03:17 AM

The reality is his record and mistruths are about to get exposed and it may not be in time for the primary but come the GE, he is toast.

View on NAFTA given to Canadian Gov't vs what he says in Ohio
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTempla...rchive=CTVNews

Background about how he was handed the sponsorship of the bills in the state senate his last year as Jones decided to make him a US Senator
http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-...reamed-at-me/1

Deception on his website saying he was a candidate for US Senator in 2002 when he made his anti war speach to give the impression he was more in the know and responsible. Deception to the vote since he didn't start his campaign until Jan 2003, 3 months after the Iraq vote took place in Oct of 02.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

And facts showing he didn't start running until 2003 as evidenced by his own websites articles as tracked down here:
http://www.oem.com.mx/diariodexalapa/notas/n597677.htm

Thats nothing to say about his championing his chairing of the Sub Committee and never once holding a hearing in the 13 months he has held the chair because he has been to busy on the campaign trail, even though this committee oversees the EU, NATO and its role in Afghanistan, something he outright criticizes and promises to fix! Inexcusable. If your too busy, then give up the chair and remove it from your resume.

There is a lot that is going to be coming out in the next while and its going to fry him. Whether its before the DNC convention or the GE in November, his boat will be on the way to the ocean floor.

F-U-Jimmy · 02-28-2008, 03:25 AM

Clinton, its the only chance to get out of the serious shit they are in

Axeman · 02-28-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Fuck you idiot. Has nothing to do with race. I would not vote for him no matter what color he was.

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he is getting any attention is because he is black.

I wouldn't say its just cause he is black. It has elements of it sure, but its also cause he has charisma and most of all to the media he is not Clinton. That's enough to prop him up. If Edwards was her only challenger they would try the same thing with him but without the charisma and the back pocket race card it would be tougher to execute.

I think this country would elect a black man who had the record to be worthy of it.

But I will say this. If he was a woman and tried to run for president with his resume, he would be laughed off the stage from the get go. That I truly believe.

campimp · 02-28-2008, 04:24 AM

Obama

V_RocKs · 02-28-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sounds like a personal problem. I know mine has gone up significantly.

Then you haven't tried vacationing in Europe yet...

Even with what I make it makes me cringe when I see how much they want for a hotel...

potter · 02-28-2008, 06:48 AM

Well, to all you non citizens who want Obama. So far he's winning in the polls. The Dems are WAY ahead in votes, and obama is at about 60-70% of those dem votes.

james_clickmemedia · 02-28-2008, 06:59 AM

As a non-us citizen but living here for 10+ year I am still torn between Obama (if he is the choice) and McCain.. If Hilary gets the nomination then McCain starts to look even better..

Jman · 02-28-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont bother with him. Hes an idiot for sure.

Tell me about it, and now racist to...

Bryan G · 02-28-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

LOL I'm not talking about how much I make IDIOT i'm talking about how much I lose on the exchange.

Where you born this way or you just playing stupid???

I'd vote Obama, time for a change is needed.

As for Baddog jus look at all his posts and you can draw your own conclusions. Any opening he gets he has to put people down. Must be a self-esteem issue

Jman · 02-28-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan

I'd vote Obama, time for a change is needed.

As for Baddog jus look at all his posts and you can draw your own conclusions. Any opening he gets he has to put people down. Must be a self-esteem issue

Could that be why he's always taking self paparazzi pics of himself with young girls????

pocketkangaroo · 02-28-2008, 11:10 AM

Neither of the candidates are good this year. Obama is too young and inexperienced to run a country. McCain is bought and paid for by tons of lobbyists and special interest groups. Your choice is an inexperienced guy or a corrupt one. Makes you wish a viable third party candidate was running.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	As a resident (non citizen) American, Canadian citizen living in the US, I really could give a shit who wins at this point. All of this years candidates are lack lustre, seem to be the same old same old. I have a feeling McCain will win now that Nader has come in and will split up the Dem vote. Who would I LIKE to see win? Why not Schwarzenegger? Let's repeal the US born law, and get him in office. It's a joke post these days anyway. I have a feeling the Dem fuckups in the house will cause them to lose congress + senate next election which means the Repubs will take control. That means that IF a democrat wins president they will have NO way of passing anything they want and will appear to be a lame duck. So a 1 term president it will be.

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videosc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 375	I'm surprised anyone overseas cares who would be the prez in America. I'm a U.S. citizen and I hardly lose any sleep over who runs the U.K., France, Italy, etc. I'm not even sure I could name them. Anyhow, as this news story explains, the winner of the U.S. election has already been determined: http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...dentally_leaks

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Neither of the candidates are good this year. Obama is too young and inexperienced to run a country. McCain is bought and paid for by tons of lobbyists and special interest groups. Your choice is an inexperienced guy or a corrupt one. Makes you wish a viable third party candidate was running.