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Old 03-12-2008, 12:22 AM   #51
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On a golden platter? Not sure how you can feel that is true. Did you not see the all time historic lows of the current republican president and how the voters threw the republicans out on their asses in the last congressional election. Sure the democrats have sucked, but there is still very much an anti-republican feel in much of the country.
I am saying the Democrats should have had a slam dunk for 2008. Now, I have a better chance than they do.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:25 AM   #52
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hahaha POT KETTLE BLACK - Geraldine Ferraro got the VP nomination because she was a woman - had she been a man - white, black or green - she was a nobody, she'd have never been considered without a vagina.
And Mondale may have stood a chance without her.

They just don't get it. Women, Jews, blacks . . . they are a hard sell.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:34 AM   #53
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I am saying the Democrats should have had a slam dunk for 2008. Now, I have a better chance than they do.
Ah I misunderstood your post. I fully agree. About 8-9 months ago I think pretty much everyone assumed that the dems were going to stroll into the white house and but things have really changed.

I saw a politcal guy the other day say, "every election the dems figure out a new way to lose."
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:47 AM   #54
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Ah I misunderstood your post. I fully agree. About 8-9 months ago I think pretty much everyone assumed that the dems were going to stroll into the white house and but things have really changed.

I saw a politcal guy the other day say, "every election the dems figure out a new way to lose."
Funny, I am watching Lewis Black and he just commented on how the Dems could have gotten rid of Bush in 04 but went ahead and nominated Kerry.

It is almost like they don't want the responsibility of being President. This way they can blame everything on the Republicans.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:49 AM   #55
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clinton wouldn't be getting much attention if she wasn't a woman and if it wasn't for her husband.
Obama is the most charismatic person in the race. The fact that he's black has helped getting him some attention but if he was un-charismatic and talked a lot of shit he wouldn't be where he is now
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:59 AM   #56
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Funny, I am watching Lewis Black and he just commented on how the Dems could have gotten rid of Bush in 04 but went ahead and nominated Kerry.

It is almost like they don't want the responsibility of being President. This way they can blame everything on the Republicans.
I had always said that Gore was handed the presidency and screwed up badly and lost. Then in 2004 they had a very good chance of winning it back. People were unhappy and things in Iraq were going badly. I don't know if Howard Dean or any of the other candidates would have been able to do any better, but they lost again. I always say that one of their problems is that they never fight back. Bush attacked Kerry and he refused to fight back or defend himself. I think people want to see someone that will stand up and hit back when they are hit. If you come off like any kind of wimp it hurts you bad and a lot of the dems come off as wimps.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:03 AM   #57
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I had always said that Gore was handed the presidency and screwed up badly and lost.
Lieberman was a poor idea.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:15 AM   #58
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Lieberman was a poor idea.
A worse idea was distancing himself from Bill Clinton.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:17 AM   #59
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Lieberman was a poor idea.
yep, he was a very bad choice.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:18 AM   #60
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A worse idea was distancing himself from Bill Clinton.
exactly. Clinton, for all his faults, was still really popular when he left office. Gore should have rode him to the whitehouse but he decided he had to make sure he distanced himself from him.
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Ferraro resigned from the Clinton campaign today
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:47 PM   #62
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Ferraro resigned from the Clinton campaign today
That was dumb. More division.
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first time i have ever heard an american saying someone was lucky to be black
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