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Old 03-20-2008, 12:50 PM   #51
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50 Webmasters doing business...

2085 Tubemasters fucking it up.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #52
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50 Webmasters doing business...

2085 Tubemasters fucking it up.
I mean....
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:09 PM   #53
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Keep drinking! At least you realize that change is the only constant instead of just being nostalgic
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:11 PM   #54
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:18 PM   #55
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I don't think tube sites affect sales in the way that people think... Hell, there's a reason why tube traffic upselling to a paysite converts... The user wants to see more of that porn.

Tube sites are great if you want a ton of generic "porn". As soon as you're looking for something in particular, they become a pain in the ass. People will still pay for quality and they will pay for what they like (I personally can't stand watching porn on a tube site, the video quality just isn't there)...

Especially when you drill down into niches, that content is even harder to find on tube sites... Most of the more obscure fetishes and microniches have only seen their sales get stronger. Obviously if you're promoting hardcore teen porn and only upselling bangbros you might see a decline in sales, but that would happen with or without the tube sites.

Personally before I started doing this for a living when I surfed for porn I could get off from a 1 minute hardcore trailer on a paysite tour Having longer videos available for free won't separate the users who want to pay and the users who don't want to pay any more than they are now.

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Old 03-20-2008, 01:52 PM   #56
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You know I will! And only a few days until Phoenix where I will demonstrate it "live" LOL
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:21 PM   #57
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I think it's who you are and the things you know that count...I've always made great money at this. And the last year I'm doing better than ever. Up until 2007 I had two equal partners. I brought in a ton of money. Now I have no partner, 1/10th of the traffic, but I'm still grossing 2/3 of what I did back then. Which needess to say means I'm netting twice as much. I have not YET seen the economy affect me in any way in this business or any other entertainment business. Not saying it can't. Just haven't seen it yet. And the point about the strip clubs not being the same as buying porn may be valid. But that wasn't the point that shanesworld was making.
He was hypothesizing that all luxury items such as porn would be hurt because people had to spend all their money on survival. I pointed out that I have not found that to be the case over the years.
So you're right that it's not like strip clubs...people spend a whole lot more on porn online. As far as people's spending habits...so far I haven't seen a big difference between brick & mortar and online, with the exception that they seem to spend more money over a longer period of time with online porn because of the convenience of the thing.
Now that I've spouted all that...watch the economy completely tank, everybody lose their credit cards, and fail to pay their ISP bill.
Just my luck...
It happens we can partner in a apple selling business. lol
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:26 PM   #58
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It happens we can partner in a apple selling business. lol
Sign me up brother!
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:28 PM   #59
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