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Art Del Gado · 03-19-2008, 01:32 PM

Hey guys,

This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of
his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired
of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer,
take time to read this PLEASE.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE
than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going
around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!

I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by summer and it
might go higher! Want gasoline prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies
just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt"
ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
Really work. Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is
super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.55 for regular unleaded in
my town.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we
need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the
marketplace... not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need
to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we
hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we
can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.

But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to
force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and
MOBIL.

If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have
to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out
on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is
to reach millions of people!

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message o n. I suggest
that we not buy from Exxon and Mobil until they lower their prices to
the $2.00 Range and keep them down. This can really work!!! Pitch
in!

Acting together we can make a difference.

UniversalPassLorence · 03-19-2008, 01:37 PM

Some Valid Points in the post

Eva PSC · 03-19-2008, 01:39 PM

no such companies found in canada

Art Del Gado · 03-19-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva PSC

no such companies found in canada

take the concept.. find the biggest gas company in canada n just dont buy from them

DaddyHalbucks · 03-19-2008, 01:54 PM

It could work.

L-Pink · 03-19-2008, 01:57 PM

I'll start today

ADL Colin · 03-19-2008, 02:01 PM

The high gas prices are coming from the high crude prices which are set in the marketplace not by oil companies. The historical relationship between crude and gas prices right now is off; gas would be priced higher based on current price of crude and typical relationship.

East coast crack spread is actually negative right now.
http://www.oilintel.com/spothome.cfm?loc_id=7

JakeR · 03-19-2008, 02:02 PM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

swoop · 03-19-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeR

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

thanks for posting this and we need a timeline picture, this has to be the 5th time i've seen this posted.

Dollarmansteve · 03-19-2008, 02:13 PM

do we really need to go over the basic principles of the market economy?

Let's say this happened, even though it's impossible since it's an unstable equlibrium (game theory, nash... look it up).

So, Given that demand is unchaged and, self-evidently, that demand is always met (please refer to the basic supply/demand model of markets and how it determines market price.. high school economics).. all this would do is drain the gas tanks of the gas retailers that aren't the ones that are being targetted. It would also create massively long lines at gas stations, waste people's time and patience. It would force people to drive greater distances to find one of the acceptable gas stations (which is economically irrational since it would unneccessarily waste gasoline.. which is insane).

If this went on for any prolonged period it would simply create a seconday wholesale market for gasoline since the demand would have to be met, and the targetted oil companies would still be producing gasoline which they would simply sell to the gasoline retailer that had a sudden increase in demand for gasoline.

It's even more stupid since gas retailers are run not by the oil companies but by individual business owners. So what this plan would actually do.. if it happened (which is impossible since it's irrational and insane) is harm a few entrepreneurs who feed their family with the money from the gas station. The oil company will still have made its money but a few people will be forced into bankrupty because of collective retardation.

The sad and pathetic part of ridiculous chain letters like this is that there are people who have so little understanding and complete ignorance about how the market ecnomomy works.. that they say "ya screw the oil companies, this is a great idea.. this could work".

Everyone needs to pick up a freaking economics text book and learn something.

After Shock Media · 03-19-2008, 02:16 PM

double post

After Shock Media · 03-19-2008, 02:16 PM

Someone really needs to take keyboards away from the retarded, or at least have a intelligence test required before you can access any non "safe" areas of the internet.

Guess whole supply/demand concept went out window, and yes even big oil such as Shell, BP, and Chevron have publicly stated that all of the easy to get to oil is gone (anwar excluded but only cheveron would know for sure). Not to mention the whole damn issue about the lack of refinery abilities.

severe · 03-19-2008, 02:17 PM

makes absolutely no sense and will do absolutely nothing.

pornguy · 03-19-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

It's even more stupid since gas retailers are run not by the oil companies but by individual business owners. So what this plan would actually do.. if it happened (which is impossible since it's irrational and insane) is harm a few entrepreneurs who feed their family with the money from the gas station. The oil company will still have made its money but a few people will be forced into bankrupty because of collective retardation.

the prices are set within a range from the company who's name you fly on your station.

For instance, If you fly Exxon, and use their gas, they give you a range that you can not go over or UNDER for that matter

TripleXPrint · 03-19-2008, 02:30 PM

Thanks for posting a chain letter that I usually just delete.

Doing this won't affect the gas price one bit. It will just make the American population look even more stupid than the world already thinks we are. Yeah, pick two companies and don't buy gas from them. That will really hit them right in the pocket books!

In that case, why not stop drinking beer because it gets delivered to the stores using gas purchased from those companies. How about chapstick, better stop using that, too. Want to make a nice dinner tonight? You can't because your dumbass is boycotting the major oil/gas providers and guess how that food is delivered to the grocery store? Yup, you guessed it.

When you stop buying gas from these companies they'll just up the prices they charge to companies that buy in bulk like freight companies and airlines. Then instead of hitting us in the wallet at the gas pump you'll be shitting yourself when they're charging $50 for a 12 pack of Busch Light.

Only self-centered idiots think that gas we put in our cars is the only way the oil companies make money. That's a fraction compared to other industries that rely on oil energy. Butane, Kerosene, Asphalt, Lubricating Oils, Wax, and Animal feed are all byproducts of crude oil. So just get rid of your car and start riding a bike if you can't afford gas and quit bitching about it. If you owned an oil company then you'd be doing the same thing they are; getting filthy rich.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. The game being the corrupt ass government we have in America.

baddog · 03-19-2008, 02:32 PM

Please. How many times over the years does this spam have to get reborn before people figure out the author is clueless?

baddog · 03-19-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeR

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Thanks for not making me go hunt this down.

After Shock Media · 03-19-2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

So just get rid of your car and start riding a bike if you can't afford gas and quit bitching about it. If you owned an oil company then you'd be doing the same thing they are; getting filthy rich.

Better not have tires, tubes, plastic, rubber, or use any chain or berrings that need greese or oil either.

Yes our oil addiction is that fucking bad. Gas prices are just something we actually see day to day in our face and hand over money for directly.

TripleXPrint · 03-19-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Better not have tires, tubes, plastic, rubber, or use any chain or berrings that need greese or oil either.

Yes our oil addiction is that fucking bad. Gas prices are just something we actually see day to day in our face and hand over money for directly.

EXACTLY!

That is exactly the point I'm trying to make. I don't think people realize that oil goes beyond the gas pump.

D · 03-19-2008, 02:51 PM

I know a quite a few engineers.

Most of them are clueless in regards to economics.

Weird they'd start off a chain letter of this sort as an idea pushed by two engineers, and not two economists.

D · 03-19-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

EXACTLY!

That is exactly the point I'm trying to make. I don't think people realize that oil goes beyond the gas pump.

True... but the vast majority of it goes to fuel.

After Shock Media · 03-19-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

I know a quite a few engineers.

Most of them are clueless in regards to economics.

Weird they'd start off a chain letter of this sort as an idea pushed by two engineers, and not two economists.

Each time that this letter is resurrected the people who wrote it and passed along the information changes. Now it is a retired Coca Cola exec and Haliburton engineers.

Elli · 03-19-2008, 03:05 PM

I got this one in my email this morning. sigh.

After Shock Media · 03-19-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

True... but the vast majority of it goes to fuel.

Nobody will say that fuel is not the largest, he was speaking about the trucks, planes, etc that carry other goods by the way. We just do not see the gas behind other items first hand though a good indicator is typically iceberg lettuce.

It is a world commodity as well. If we do not buy it it will be sold elsewhere. Specially since we do not produce even a close proximity to what we use or need locally.

PS. Before I get someone who notices or jumps my shit. I am against drilling in ANWAR and my reasons come from oil companies like BP, Shell and most importantly Chevron (since they are the only one who ever drilled it before).

Fap · 03-19-2008, 04:29 PM

oh yeah? well a PRINCE in africa emailed me saying i get half his fortune! and he is really really rich

Herb Kornfield · 03-19-2008, 05:52 PM

It'll keep going up and up and up. There is no end in sight.

People will continue to buy gas no matter what, we love our rides.

Satan · 03-19-2008, 07:47 PM

dont matter what you do it will stay where its at and go higher

JFK · 03-19-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Each time that this letter is resurrected the people who wrote it and passed along the information changes. Now it is a retired Coca Cola exec and Haliburton engineers.

next thing you know it will be, retired GFY sig whores and Contest engineers

baddog · 03-19-2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

next thing you know it will be, retired GFY sig whores and Contest engineers

This was sent by a retired Swoit sigwhore. It came from one of
his engineer buddies who retired from Zango. If you are tired
of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer,
take time to read this PLEASE.

RogerV · 03-19-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva PSC

no such companies found in canada

lets do this with porn everyone can send me there traffic cut off all the big sponsors

Socks · 03-19-2008, 09:18 PM

I have a better idea - stop driving. It's the whole "buying fuel" thing that really makes this a problem. ;)

baddog · 03-19-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

I have a better idea - stop driving. It's the whole "buying fuel" thing that really makes this a problem. ;)

We don't all own dog sleds.

WWC · 03-19-2008, 09:47 PM

fuck it i am buying a tank!

alexweb · 03-19-2008, 10:02 PM

stop driving

After Shock Media · 03-20-2008, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexweb

stop driving

Does that mean we also stop buying our food. Guess this means we better grow our own produce, raise our own meat, eat seasonally yet do not use motorized tractors unless they use bio fuels or are electric. Guess that also means we better learn to make alcohol, make our own clothes, cut wood to heat the house, create our own energy to power our houses and holy fuck you are onto something. Then those greedy ass oil companies will learn something.

Optionally if we all just ate foods only produced locally or within say 2 hours of your city at a maximum. Stores would then order less other foods produced elsewhere and often on the other side of the globe. This alone would have a seriously large impact on oil consumption. However this would have very little effect on prices that much. Even with a drop in usage others would pick up the slack, like India, China, or even fucking odd ball parts of Africa. All of them are quickly moving from walking, biking, or even animal power to the use of motorized vehicles. It is not stopping. We need an alternative along with less usage.

03-19-2008, 01:32 PM	#1
Art Del Gado Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 960	Great idea on how to bring Gas Prices back down Hey guys, This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this PLEASE. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance! I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by summer and it might go higher! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can Really work. Please read on and join with us! By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.55 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace... not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people! If this makes sense to you, please pass this message o n. I suggest that we not buy from Exxon and Mobil until they lower their prices to the $2.00 Range and keep them down. This can really work!!! Pitch in! Acting together we can make a difference. __________________ Art Del Gado ICQ: 616143

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Dollarmansteve Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,849	do we really need to go over the basic principles of the market economy? Let's say this happened, even though it's impossible since it's an unstable equlibrium (game theory, nash... look it up). So, Given that demand is unchaged and, self-evidently, that demand is always met (please refer to the basic supply/demand model of markets and how it determines market price.. high school economics).. all this would do is drain the gas tanks of the gas retailers that aren't the ones that are being targetted. It would also create massively long lines at gas stations, waste people's time and patience. It would force people to drive greater distances to find one of the acceptable gas stations (which is economically irrational since it would unneccessarily waste gasoline.. which is insane). If this went on for any prolonged period it would simply create a seconday wholesale market for gasoline since the demand would have to be met, and the targetted oil companies would still be producing gasoline which they would simply sell to the gasoline retailer that had a sudden increase in demand for gasoline. It's even more stupid since gas retailers are run not by the oil companies but by individual business owners. So what this plan would actually do.. if it happened (which is impossible since it's irrational and insane) is harm a few entrepreneurs who feed their family with the money from the gas station. The oil company will still have made its money but a few people will be forced into bankrupty because of collective retardation. The sad and pathetic part of ridiculous chain letters like this is that there are people who have so little understanding and complete ignorance about how the market ecnomomy works.. that they say "ya screw the oil companies, this is a great idea.. this could work". Everyone needs to pick up a freaking economics text book and learn something. __________________ I died. Last edited by Dollarmansteve; 03-19-2008 at 02:14 PM..

03-19-2008, 02:16 PM	#11
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severe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 331	makes absolutely no sense and will do absolutely nothing.

03-19-2008, 02:30 PM	#15
TripleXPrint Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 983	Thanks for posting a chain letter that I usually just delete. Doing this won't affect the gas price one bit. It will just make the American population look even more stupid than the world already thinks we are. Yeah, pick two companies and don't buy gas from them. That will really hit them right in the pocket books! In that case, why not stop drinking beer because it gets delivered to the stores using gas purchased from those companies. How about chapstick, better stop using that, too. Want to make a nice dinner tonight? You can't because your dumbass is boycotting the major oil/gas providers and guess how that food is delivered to the grocery store? Yup, you guessed it. When you stop buying gas from these companies they'll just up the prices they charge to companies that buy in bulk like freight companies and airlines. Then instead of hitting us in the wallet at the gas pump you'll be shitting yourself when they're charging $50 for a 12 pack of Busch Light. Only self-centered idiots think that gas we put in our cars is the only way the oil companies make money. That's a fraction compared to other industries that rely on oil energy. Butane, Kerosene, Asphalt, Lubricating Oils, Wax, and Animal feed are all byproducts of crude oil. So just get rid of your car and start riding a bike if you can't afford gas and quit bitching about it. If you owned an oil company then you'd be doing the same thing they are; getting filthy rich. Don't hate the player, hate the game. The game being the corrupt ass government we have in America. __________________ Skype: Triplexprint

03-19-2008, 02:32 PM	#16
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Please. How many times over the years does this spam have to get reborn before people figure out the author is clueless?

03-19-2008, 02:51 PM	#20
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	I know a quite a few engineers. Most of them are clueless in regards to economics. Weird they'd start off a chain letter of this sort as an idea pushed by two engineers, and not two economists. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

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Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	It'll keep going up and up and up. There is no end in sight. People will continue to buy gas no matter what, we love our rides.

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I have a better idea - stop driving. It's the whole "buying fuel" thing that really makes this a problem. ;)

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