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Old 03-21-2008, 06:53 AM   #1
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What are you investing in?

Interest rates are really low again 3% or so. We also have inflation in the US so it sucks to let it sit. Our stock market is making new lows not new highs and real estate got the crap beat out of it.

So where are you going with your money now?
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:54 AM   #2
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:58 AM   #3
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commodities and real estate is the only way to go right now....

Or keep your cash in euro bank and earn 6% interest while you wait to position yourself to re-enter the market when it hits the bottom.
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commodities and real estate is the only way to go right now....

Or keep your cash in euro bank and earn 6% interest while you wait to position yourself to re-enter the market when it hits the bottom.
Not sure about commodities, but real estate does seem like a good buy now


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:23 AM   #5
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These business are "core businesses" meaning always in demand regardless of market conditions.

Most of my portfolio is in core businesses, but then again I invest for long term meaning 10-15 years down the line
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:39 AM   #8
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Now that I have lived a while, I notice that EVERYTHING cycles. Buy low sell high is more then a good idea, it is a necessity.

So I am buying stocks and real estate right now. Was in cash for the last 5 years to a great extent with some commercial property. Buying houses. Also buying some stock long term and day trading.

Bonds look attractive except for inflation concerns.

Anyone buying into financial stuff here? Sort of nervous on that front.
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Now that I have lived a while, I notice that EVERYTHING cycles. Buy low sell high is more then a good idea, it is a necessity.

So I am buying stocks and real estate right now. Was in cash for the last 5 years to a great extent with some commercial property. Buying houses. Also buying some stock long term and day trading.

Bonds look attractive except for inflation concerns.

Anyone buying into financial stuff here? Sort of nervous on that front.
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If I were you I'd invest in foreign bonds.

Brazilian bonds payout around 12&#37; for example.
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If I were you I'd invest in foreign bonds.

Brazilian bonds payout around 12% for example.
yep got some of those. Strongest currency in the world is also cool.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:11 PM   #18
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I see better opportunities in real estate and stocks in the future for me.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:16 PM   #20
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:18 PM   #21
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I got interested and started studying the markets over 2 years ago and with the crisis in our financial system I have done a lot more research in to the commodities markets. In comparison to paper assets these markets are very small and demand is increasing world wide. I have also seen articles online about increased interest in fine art work and wines. If you wanna go with something like diamonds be sure to do research and look in to rare colored diamonds as there is supposedly only 1 colored diamond in every 1000 diamonds.

I think the best and most affordable bets on precious metals are in Silver and Palladium because these have a lot less hype surrounding them, have many uses other than jewelry, and are considered money by the ISO. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217)

If you feel its necessary to be in the stock market you should look at trusts, and commodity and short/inverse ETFs.

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Anyhow here is the break down on my own personal openion!

Real estate still has about 15 - 20% correction to go.
Commodities are in for a correction which already started id wait on commodities to reach support levels.


well T-bills your actually going to loose money counting in inflation.

Munis - bonds ... coupons/yields are pretty low right now on US tresuries.. unless you want to go corprate bonds..


Your best option is to go long in stocks... when interest rates are so low.. I would buy financials right now if you can wait 3 - 5 years.. you should see at least 20% annual counting the dividends they are paying out.
I would not try to pick a certain name in the banks.. just go with a ETF that covers the entire sector.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:25 PM   #23
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In commodities.. the only thing that makes sence to me is silver and that at around $15 dollar range.

Couple of etfs cover silver and thats if your broker doesn't allow you to trade the actuall future!
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DO NOT buy the banks yet this problem is starting to get political

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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...9C8721E3E88%7D
UYG up 25% in the past 3 days !

Bear sterns is a done deal. That was the capitulation for the financials... the financial sector double bottomed on the charts.. and it is in my openion that we saw the lows for the financials 4 days ago.

Goldman sachs .. lehman reported better than expected results which should be a trend for others to follow because basically the sky falling was priced into the bank equities.

From here on we'll see choppy roads still.. but should be a reversal in the trend for the upside in the financials sector...


Financial sector is the only sector that the goverment will prevent from a complete collapse. Remember.. if your playing the financials the fed is your friend!
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UYG up 25% in the past 3 days !

Bear sterns is a done deal. That was the capitulation for the financials... the financial sector double bottomed on the charts.. and it is in my openion that we saw the lows for the financials 4 days ago.

Goldman sachs .. lehman reported better than expected results which should be a trend for others to follow because basically the sky falling was priced into the bank equities.

From here on we'll see choppy roads still.. but should be a reversal in the trend for the upside in the financials sector...


Financial sector is the only sector that the goverment will prevent from a complete collapse. Remember.. if your playing the financials the fed is your friend!

Ok buddy you go ahead and try to catch that falling knife. I wish you the best of luck. I'll wait until things settle down.

Foreign investors veto Fed rescue
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccview117.xml

Credit Crunch Impacts Student Loans
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Billionaire Lewis moves to block JP Morgan
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...cnlewis118.xml
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If you want to make money for next week

Short - Lehman, Goldman, Merrill Lynch, Bear and you will make money

This is just the tip of the iceberg fellas we have not see nothing yet, PS don't listen to Cramer on TV that fuck knob does not know what he is talking about.
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If you want to make money for next week

Short - Lehman, Goldman, Merrill Lynch, Bear and you will make money

This is just the tip of the iceberg fellas we have not see nothing yet, PS don't listen to Cramer on TV that fuck knob does not know what he is talking about.
Nope wouldn't do that. Regular mtges are starting to get cleaned up and that will help these guys.
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I've been investing my whole life and always load up when everybody else is selling and vice versa. It takes a lot of discipline when your brain is screaming at you because we all have a herd mentality. So I started selling gold when it peaked well over $1,000 and I started buying banks and selling oil some weeks ago.

I haven't always been right, I was buying cisco when everyone else was dumping and that never came back, ouch.

But overall in 30 years of investing I learned that if you just do the opposite of most people you will do real well in the long haul. Now is a great time with real estate too, I financed a house at 4 3/8 15 year fixed at Quicken Loans a few weeks ago. That deal is gone now but may come back soon, just watch the rates. In every recession you can find buying opportunities.
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I've been investing my whole life and always load up when everybody else is selling and vice versa. It takes a lot of discipline when your brain is screaming at you because we all have a herd mentality. So I started selling gold when it peaked well over $1,000 and I started buying banks and selling oil some weeks ago.

I haven't always been right, I was buying cisco when everyone else was dumping and that never came back, ouch.

But overall in 30 years of investing I learned that if you just do the opposite of most people you will do real well in the long haul. Now is a great time with real estate too, I financed a house at 4 3/8 15 year fixed at Quicken Loans a few weeks ago. That deal is gone now but may come back soon, just watch the rates. In every recession you can find buying opportunities.

I really like CSCO and big tech stocks here. No one is talking about them and they do not have any spot light on them but they are not in trouble either.
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You should look into what they make. It is way less cool money wise then it used to be.

Forex is not that easy. just

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Forex is not that easy. just

It's not about the money. It's about not spending the next few decades behind a computer in a cluttered office. Besides, over here, salaries are pretty good, and as of yet there are no medtubes
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March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest U.S. securities firm, and smaller rival Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. had their credit-rating outlook cut to negative by Standard & Poor's, which said Wall Street banks' profits may fall as much as 30 percent in the coming year.
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March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the biggest U.S. securities firm, and smaller rival Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. had their credit-rating outlook cut to negative by Standard & Poor's, which said Wall Street banks' profits may fall as much as 30 percent in the coming year.
We will see but I think everyone knows these guys report after shit happens not before.
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